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post #1051 of 2680
I think I figured it out...I think my cable box is not compatible. Will keep you posted...
post #1052 of 2680
Cable box IS compatible. So the question remains. Anybody have any thoughts?

Thanks.
post #1053 of 2680
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Originally Posted by nycjm View Post

Cable box IS compatible. So the question remains. Anybody have any thoughts?

Thanks.

My total guess... Hdmi to receiver or direct to tv from cable box?does you receiver pass 3d?
Or maybe 3d is a extra charge from cable provider?
post #1054 of 2680
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

My total guess... Hdmi to receiver or direct to tv from cable box?does you receiver pass 3d?
Or maybe 3d is a extra charge from cable provider?

Direct Cable box to TV. And at this time, they don't charge extra...
post #1055 of 2680
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

Man watching Ice Age in HD on ABC Family channel.. this has to be the movie with the most constant banding ever created.. I mean it's not serious banding.. but I see a little everywhere with this film. I guess all that cartoon ice really is bright.

spdntrxi: if you can get your remote thing fixed and are still ok with the very slight banding on this 3rd set, then I would just comment that the 9500 has a really beautiful image. Enjoy!!
post #1056 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Rhombus7 View Post

spdntrxi: if you can get your remote thing fixed and are still ok with the very slight banding on this 3rd set, then I would just comment that the 9500 has a really beautiful image. Enjoy!!

The remote has been pretty good the last 24 or so hours..been playing with the expert picture settings, etc so lots of remote use. Banding I definately have, I can see it now towards the edges of the netflix screen as you mentioned, but I really have to almost defocus my eyes to notice it. I see it more on other light backgrounds..it comes and goes rather quickly. I really does not bug me other then mentally knowing I paid ~3K for a TV if that makes sense and expecting perfection.

Still waiting to test 3D with a real 3D blu-ray. If I return the panel it probably wont be for banding, it will be for the IR receiver, but it seems to be ok lately (knock on wood) The image is indeed nice, watched Transformers 2 last night and GI Joe the other night and I am pleased with 99% of what I see. But if banding bugs you..yes you should look elsewhere.

How the Vizio working out ?
post #1057 of 2680
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rhombus7 View Post

Other LED LCDs have issues.

Yes they do. To me, after leaving CES at the begining of the year, I new LED and LCD for that matter took a step backwards.
post #1058 of 2680
I finally went with the LG PX950N 3D 60" plasma. It was $3700 with transmitter build-in and glasses included, compared to the HX900 52" which was $4400 without transmitter no glasses included. So in the end pretty much a no-brainer after all, especially since I found out that LG's new plasmas doesn't exhibit much buzz, not in the amounts of Samsung and Panasonic at least. (The LX950N 55" was $3500 but I'm afraid of too much crosstalk after flatpanelshd's review and I get 5" for practically nothing).

So I thank everyone who've engaged in thread and answered my questions, bit I'm consequently done here. Should receive my TV set next week..
post #1059 of 2680
It seems that the majority is from the USA here. So where is your LX9500 made?
LG has own factory in Russia and they assemble the majority of models for our market there but 55LX9500s are being imported from Korea (it's quite expensive here - about 4500$)
I've visited today another store. The room was very bright and content was with lots of slow panning shots but I saw only lots of reflections . Still can't see banding. (I don't know how the ordinary customer can choose this tv if he sees LE5500's brighter picture without any reflections near.)
post #1060 of 2680
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Originally Posted by andrew55555 View Post

It seems that the majority is from the USA here. So where is your LX9500 made?
LG has own factory in Russia and they assemble the majority of models for our market there but 55LX9500s are being imported from Korea (it's quite expensive here - about 4500$)
I've visited today another store. The room was very bright and content was with lots of slow panning shots but I saw only lots of reflections . Still can't see banding. (I don't know how the ordinary customer can choose this tv if he sees LE5500's brighter picture without any reflections near.)

if it's bright thats why you are not seeing the banding.. in a darker room they will be more noticeable. Yes the TV is like a mirror at times, but I dont have an issue with the reflections since I can control my lighting that would reflect. I believe most sites on this side of the world (west) would be assembled in Mexico..mine was.
post #1061 of 2680
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

The remote has been pretty good the last 24 or so hours..been playing with the expert picture settings, etc so lots of remote use. Banding I definately have, I can see it now towards the edges of the netflix screen as you mentioned, but I really have to almost defocus my eyes to notice it. I see it more on other light backgrounds..it comes and goes rather quickly. I really does not bug me other then mentally knowing I paid ~3K for a TV if that makes sense and expecting perfection.

Still waiting to test 3D with a real 3D blu-ray. If I return the panel it probably wont be for banding, it will be for the IR receiver, but it seems to be ok lately (knock on wood) The image is indeed nice, watched Transformers 2 last night and GI Joe the other night and I am pleased with 99% of what I see. But if banding bugs you..yes you should look elsewhere.

How the Vizio working out ?

Yeah, that's how you would see it on the netlfix screen. Mine was particularly bad on the lower left quarter.

The vizio is a nice TV - no doubt. The best way I could sum it up though is to say that the LG LX9500 made me say WOW, all the time, I mean I was impressed. The Vizio does not do that. Man, if only the LG didn't have the banding or uniformity issues I would pay the extra almost double in a heartbeat. I also learned that I don't like matte screens much. Reflective screen just makes the colors and contrast POP, especially in dark viewing which is how I like to watch movies mostly. I can just live with the daytime or lighted annoyances. I think the glossy screen cuts down on glare from the TV itself.

LG 55LX9500
Pros: glossy screen gives excellent contrast, 240 dimming zones give better contast in actual watching, black bars on top and bottom of 2.35:1 movie are black (makes a big difference to perceived contrast), sexy looking set, image that makes you say WOW most of the time
Cons: banding and uniformity

Vizio XVT553SV
Pros: Very uniform image without banding, price, matte screen for daytime or lighted viewing
Cons: Only 120 dimming zones does not give as good of contrast during actual watching, matte screen means colors do not POP and more 'glare' from the TV during dark viewing, black bars are not off during 2.35:1 movies (I think the zones overlap with the active image and so they are quite bright actually), colors seem more garish to me (may just be because of lack of glossy screen to tone down glare from the screen)

That's why I said if you could live with the banding, keep it, it really is a nice set. I'm just so dissappointed overall - nothing is perfect.
post #1062 of 2680
[quote=Rhombus7;19177738] I also learned that I don't like matte screens much. Reflective screen just makes the colors and contrast POP, especially in dark viewing which is how I like to watch movies mostly.

Don't like Matte Screens? Precisely why I bought the LG 55LHX, Fantastic Matte Screen TV with Deep Fantastic Colours with lots of POP!!! NO Reflectivity! NO Banding! Those who have bought these sets just Love them! It also has the thin panel, NO compromises to the LED System to get the panel even thinner! Once upon a time, this set was built to sell for $6000! Now available for considerably less while there's still inventory left. Hey, I'm up in Ontario,Canada and CP shipped it to me all the way from California. I have NOT regretted purchasing this set right from day one, and after hearing all the griping from the LE and LX Forums, it makes me feel even better about my purchase! I've gone through 10 sets since 2006: Sonys, Samsungs, Sharpes and othe LGs - every one had problems causing me to finally, dump it down the food chain and move onto the next Greater, Better, Improved Model, only again to find problems and move on again. THIS SET STAYS! The only thing that's going to move this set out of my Man Cave, is for a 55" OLED come out that will blow this Fantastic Set out of the water with an even more Fantastic PQ!
post #1063 of 2680
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Don't like Matte Screens? Precisely why I bought the LG 55LHX, Fantastic Matte Screen TV with Deep Fantastic Colours with lots of POP!!! NO Reflectivity! NO Banding! Those who have bought these sets just Love them! It also has the thin panel, NO compromises to the LED System to get the panel even thinner! Once upon a time, this set was built to sell for $6000! Now available for considerably less while there's still inventory left. Hey, I'm up in Ontario,Canada and CP shipped it to me all the way from California. I have NOT regretted purchasing this set right from day one, and after hearing all the griping from the LE and LX Forums, it makes me feel even better about my purchase! I've gone through 10 sets since 2006: Sonys, Samsungs, Sharpes and othe LGs - every one had problems causing me to finally, dump it down the food chain and move onto the next Greater, Better, Improved Model, only again to find problems and move on again. THIS SET STAYS! The only thing that's going to move this set out of my Man Cave, is for a 55" OLED come out that will blow this Fantastic Set out of the water with an even more Fantastic PQ!

Maybe your LG set has better AR filters as part of the matte screen than my Vizio.

In general, TV and computer makers put those glossy screens on there for a reason. They don't just make reflections worse From Wikipedia 'glossy display': "In controlled environments, such as darkened rooms, or rooms where all light sources are diffused glossy displays create more saturated colors, deeper blacks, brighter whites, and are sharper than matte displays. This is why supporters of glossy screens consider these types of displays more appropriate for viewing photographs and watching films."

I can attest to every one of those being true from my personal direct comparison of the matte vizio to the glossy LX9500. I've noticed on the vizio that colors don't pop as much, black are not as black and whites don't have that same pop and I didn't know that glossy displays can improve the sharpness but I've also been observing that the Vizio just doesn't seem as focused or sharp (same movie comparison watched only 2 days apart). This is not just my preconceptions. My previous TV also had a glossy display. Hence I'd never watched a matte screen TV. There is a noticeable difference.

So, for nightime viewing, I REALLY prefer the glossy screens, they make a big improvement. Even my wife, who doesn't care about TVs AT ALL, commented right away that the image on the LG was quite better.

No doubt the matte screen wins hands down for lighted or daytime viewing.

To each their own preference depending on viewing conditions.

Wouldn't it be nice if a TV maker made a TV that was matte screen that came with a glossy screen that you just hang in front when you want to watch a movie at night in the dark? Best of both worlds...
post #1064 of 2680
The 55LHX has a Black Bezel. It also has a Black Panel. The Black Bezel and Black Panel almost indistinquishable from each other! Most LCD panels are a various shades of Grey up to a very dark Grey, but not Black. So when watching any kind of Video, especially at night, the Black bars (If any), the Panel and the Bexel totally Blend in with each other and are not noticeable. The Colours are Deeper, there's no Milky Whites and, if calibrated right, a detailed sharpness to everything. Sorry, I just can't handle Reflectivity, especially the type seen in some of the pictures provided by some members where you can see the person taking the picture, reflected on the screen!
post #1065 of 2680
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Originally Posted by andrew55555 View Post

It seems that the majority is from the USA here. So where is your LX9500 made?
LG has own factory in Russia and they assemble the majority of models for our market there but 55LX9500s are being imported from Korea (it's quite expensive here - about 4500$)

LG plant in Poland (Wroclaw) is assembling LX9500. It costs 2850 EUR here so pls Andrew come over for some shopping
I have also been thinking whether or not the banding issue might be factory related thing. So far I haven't heard a single bad comment on this TV in Polish forums. Germans also seem quite happy. So maybe the banding is being produced by a Mexico plant serving the US market ??
post #1066 of 2680
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Originally Posted by geezerpl View Post

LG plant in Poland (Wroclaw) is assembling LX9500. It costs 3800 EUR here so pls Andrew come over for some shopping
I have also been thinking whether or not the banding issue might be factory related thing. So far I haven't heard a single bad comment on this TV in Polish forums. Germans also seem quite happy. So maybe the banding is being produced by a Mexico plant serving the US market ??

There are reports about banding on UK forums but I don't know where LG assembles TVs for UK market. They have spacial model LX9900 with HD tuner.
At this time I know only a couple of customers from russian forum. I've asked them about banding but they say the don't see it. I think they are like avarage customer and aren't quite experienced. Happy people .
Your price is even bigger, haven't expected that. Usually TVs in Europe are cheaper than in Russia. (Amazon.de lists it for about 3000 EUR, which is cheaper that ours 3500 eur).
post #1067 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Rhombus7 View Post

...Wouldn't it be nice if a TV maker made a TV that was matte screen that came with a glossy screen that you just hang in front when you want to watch a movie at night in the dark? Best of both worlds...

Umm... did you mean to write comes with a glossy screen, and a replaceable matte screen. Unless you take one off and put the other on.

Myself, I prefer a screen self-change at the molecular level that is remote controlled. Perhaps a Dr. Manhattan model.
post #1068 of 2680
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Originally Posted by nycjm View Post

I got my 55LX9500 2 weeks ago from ABT (great price (call them to get a better price) and service). It came with the DVD player and 2 pairs of glasses (I know, now it's 4 pairs, but a little more expensive). I also got the USB stick and the LG wall mount.
My wife and I love the TV and I have not noticed any banding issues (mind you, I really have not been looking for them). Last night we watch Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs in 3D. Very cool.
Here is my question:
I live in NYC and I have Time Warner Cable.
On "HD Showcase On Demand" (channel 699), I noticed that they have the "PGA Championship in 3D" On Demand. For some reason, I could not get the 3D to work properly. Has anyone tried this? I see 2 overlapping images that are about 1/4 screen apart.
Before I knew that the 3D from the DVD player worked great, I called LG. The technician concluded that since 3D from the DVD worked, it was a "provider problem".
Has anybody tried watching 3D from TWC or have any thoughts?

Thanks.

OK, I figured it out. My cable box was on "stretch" mode.

Duh.....
post #1069 of 2680
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Originally Posted by zforgetaboutit View Post

Umm... did you mean to write comes with a glossy screen, and a replaceable matte screen. Unless you take one off and put the other on.

Myself, I prefer a screen self-change at the molecular level that is remote controlled. Perhaps a Dr. Manhattan model.

, yeah, I prefer the remote option as well.

Does anyone know if TVs with glossy screens but with better AR coatings still preserve the contrast and sharpness benefits of the glossy screen or do they act more like matte screens and lose some of the glossy screen benefits?
post #1070 of 2680
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Originally Posted by Rhombus7 View Post


, yeah, I prefer the remote option as well.

Does anyone know if TVs with glossy screens but with better AR coatings still preserve the contrast and sharpness benefits of the glossy screen or do they act more like matte screens and lose some of the glossy screen benefits?

You wondering about the LEX8's "anti-glare coating"?

Me too...
post #1071 of 2680
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Originally Posted by magi1500 View Post

You wondering about the LEX8's "anti-glare coating"?

Me too...


well I hope the lex8 is all that you guys want and more.. I just cant wait... it's football season and aside from the occasional banding this LX9500 is a pretty awesome panel.
post #1072 of 2680
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post


well I hope the lex8 is all that you guys want and more.. I just cant wait... it's football season and aside from the occasional banding this LX9500 is a pretty awesome panel.

Sorry. Not trying to turn this into a LEX8 thread.

I don't watch football so I figure I have until Tron Legacy comes out on 3D Blu-ray.

:-)
post #1073 of 2680
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Originally Posted by magi1500 View Post

Sorry. Not trying to turn this into a LEX8 thread.

I don't watch football so I figure I have until Tron Legacy comes out on 3D Blu-ray.

:-)

ok cool... maybe they will do something cool like baseball world series in 3d ? Tron .. memories.
post #1074 of 2680
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LG plant in Poland (Wroclaw) is assembling LX9500. It costs 3800 EUR here so pls Andrew come over for some shopping
I have also been thinking whether or not the banding issue might be factory related thing. So far I haven't heard a single bad comment on this TV in Polish forums. Germans also seem quite happy. So maybe the banding is being produced by a Mexico plant serving the US market ??

hmm...I think the Hong Kong version (LX9550) I have seen is quoted as being manufactured in Korea. Could there be regional differences? Again, i've spent ALOT of time in the showroom and can't pick out any banding, even in low light situations.

Also a question on the 'uniformity' issues. I assume this is in reference to the backlight uniformity? Or the black levels/blooming? I mention this because the flatpanelshd didn't really mention any of these issues.

Finally a question on the DLNA support. Does anyone know if it will be able to play VOB files (i converted MKV to VOB for the PS3)?
post #1075 of 2680
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Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post

well I hope the lex8 is all that you guys want and more.. I just cant wait... it's football season and aside from the occasional banding this LX9500 is a pretty awesome panel.

Be happy with it!!! Even my wife said the image on the LG was much better - I think due to the glossy screen (dark viewing). I just couldn't live with the uniformity mostly and banding secondly. Maybe my set was just bad. If those issues had been less I would choose that set no question. Even now I find myself regretting returning it and then have to remind myself that the uniformity bugged me alot.

Now that I've directly seen and compared the benefits of a glossy compared to matte screen for dark room viewing I really hope future TVs don't go backwards with their AR filters and become more "matte" screen like. Hopefully the AR filter can reduce reflections AND maintain glossy screen benefits
post #1076 of 2680
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Originally Posted by mcgarnagle View Post

hmm...I think the Hong Kong version (LX9550) I have seen is quoted as being manufactured in Korea. Could there be regional differences? Again, i've spent ALOT of time in the showroom and can't pick out any banding, even in low light situations.

Also a question on the 'uniformity' issues. I assume this is in reference to the backlight uniformity? Or the black levels/blooming? I mention this because the flatpanelshd didn't really mention any of these issues.

Finally a question on the DLNA support. Does anyone know if it will be able to play VOB files (i converted MKV to VOB for the PS3)?

CNET docked it a point for backlight uniformity. I don't think they mentioned the banding at all. The uniformity is like a static image superimposed over the real image at all times. When the image pans you see the static 'backlight' image. The banding we refer to is when a vertical panning shot induces horizontal scanning lines at the overlap of the zones due to the abrupt change in the dimming of two adjacent zones as the image pans. Hard to explain. The banding is like the video that was posted earlier in this thread.
post #1077 of 2680
Actually I believe they cover the banding with the uniformity problem. I believe they're both the same problem under different circumstances (static vs. moving). Remove the static uniformity problem and the banding while panning goes away.

On another topic which I posted in the 8500 thread, I've had my 55LE8500 for almost a month now, and banding / uniformity issues aside - I've gotten acclimated to this in spite of noticing it more often than I'd like, I love this set.

But twice now I've had a couple of green lines show up across the top. The lines showed up upon turning the set back on from stand-by with the remote. Powering the set off and back on with the set's power button (not the remote) has removed them immediately.

Has anybody else experienced this?

I have to say I have gotten to really enjoy the glossy screen's truly deep blacks & great shadow detail, along with the other good qualities.
post #1078 of 2680
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Originally Posted by andrew55555 View Post


There are reports about banding on UK forums but I don't know where LG assembles TVs for UK market. They have spacial model LX9900 with HD tuner.
At this time I know only a couple of customers from russian forum. I've asked them about banding but they say the don't see it. I think they are like avarage customer and aren't quite experienced. Happy people .
Your price is even bigger, haven't expected that. Usually TVs in Europe are cheaper than in Russia. (Amazon.de lists it for about 3000 EUR, which is cheaper that ours 3500 eur).

Yes mine had banding and was sent back because of it, incidentally mine was made in Poland and the UK ones don't have the THX mode.
post #1079 of 2680
Quick question for you guys concerning warranty of the 9500, I recently ordered an 8500 about 2 weeks ago and I was told that it will take another week before I get the set. The owner mentioned to me that he could give me the 9500(In Stock) at no cost to me but without the 4 year warranty that I would have on the 8500. Do you think it's wise to get this set without the warranty or should I just wait for the 8500?
post #1080 of 2680
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Originally Posted by EzRush View Post

Quick question for you guys concerning warranty of the 9500, I recently ordered an 8500 about 2 weeks ago and I was told that it will take another week before I get the set. The owner mentioned to me that he could give me the 9500(In Stock) at no cost to me but without the 4 year warranty that I would have on the 8500. Do you think it's wise to get this set without the warranty or should I just wait for the 8500?


no extra cost.. what did you pay for the warranty.. 300-400 max right. You can still get a squaretrade or LG warranty shortly after purchase on your own. I'd say go for the 9500.
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