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Whats the cheapest video processor that can convert 576i@50 to 480i/p@60 or 720p/60?

post #1 of 8
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I don't care about crappy picture quality (as long as color exists and there is no picture getting cropped).

The DVDO Edge seems a bit overpriced for this purpose, and I heard even it has trouble with video sources being converted from 50Hz to 60Hz (bad juddering, etc...). I'm hoping there's a cheaper method (aside from buying a new TV or monitor) that, although PQ takes a hit, the juddering isn't massively worse than the Edge's conversion performance.
post #2 of 8
The conversion from 50 to 60Hz isn't such a great deal. I find the conversion even to be less obtrusive than the usual 3:2 pulldown applied to 24p material to display it on 60Hz displays. My first LCD a few years back would only accept it's native resolution in 60Hz, so I had all my PAL TV material converted from 50 to 60 Hz. Looked great and the studdering wasn't a problem at all (for me).

You can basically use every processor you can find. The old DVDO units (like an iScan HD/HD+) will do a good enough job on this. The question is only what your source signal is. The older processor won't accept 576i50 via HDMI, but through component inputs only...
post #3 of 8
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Thank you very much for the information

I see a lot of mixed reviews for all those $50-200 PAL to NTSC converter devices up for sale online. Also for the prices the iScan HD is going for perhaps I should consider an Edge.

I use my TV mainly for gaming but of course I watch a fair share of films as well (a large amount of animation included, which I hear can have odd cadences that the Edge could quickly pick up on).

My set has a 2-frame delay even in its Game Mode or PC Mode, sadly. I'm not very sensitive to input lag so I don't notice it (I play online FPS games fairly often); on the other hand I play a LOT of 480i/576i PS2 games and would love a device that can process that decently, however it would seem without Edge's Gamemode enabled I would get a total of 5 frames of delay which I'm almost certain I'll notice and get bothered by

Another use I could see for the Edge is its Zoom function. One to get rid of the black bars in film with aspects greater than 1.78, and Two to fix the letterboxed state and improper aspect ratio that my PSP displays with its Video Output mode. I bought a PSP->VGA converter that allowed full-screen output of PSP games, but unfortunately I couldn't stand the red push and got rid of it.

I read that you use the XRGB-3 to zoom in your PSP, Fudoh. Ringing aside, do you think the Edge can offer similar performance? Because (yet another) thing I've read on the Edge is that its scaling quality during Zoom is pretty solid.

And then there's PS1 games. They get a large amount of use time, too. I already have a Playstation 3 though, which is considered to have pretty much perfect 480p rendering of 240p titles. Not sure if the Edge could offer any major improvements in this department.

The Edge might help a tiny bit with scaling 720p PS3 titles to 1080p, though. Then again with HDTVs being made mostly for HD resolutions, their internal scalers may already be quite optimized for 720->1080 scaling (I have a higher-end Samsung model from 2009, dunno if being a top model means they focus more on the de-interlacing/scaling chips or not).
post #4 of 8
Quite a jump from a simple 50/60Hz SD conversion to an overall low-latency gaming processor, isn't it ?

I *really* dislike the low graphics processing on the Edge, so I would not recommend using the Edge for zooming into the 272-line PSP screen. I don't think that you can get your PSP->VGA converter's quality (for PSP) out of the Edge.

For anything else, the Edge is really nice.

Nevertheless, to get back to your 50/60Hz conversion problem. I've seen iScan HD units sell for as low as $150 on ebay.com. Seems very fair to me, if you decided to get a processor for just this purpose.
post #5 of 8
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Hmmm... the only iScan HD with a good Buy It Now price is missing the remote. If you've used one before, do you know if most functions can be done without having a remote?

All I'd really need is input resolution and output resolution control, though
post #6 of 8
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If you've used one before, do you know if most functions can be done without having a remote?

yes, you can navigate the full menu using the buttons on the front.
post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 
Well what the crap, looks like I ended up wasting money by buying an iScan HD for the purpose of 50>60Hz conversion.

For some reason 576i runs perfectly on my little 19" LCD TV when the signal is passed through a Hauppauge HD PVR. I didn't know passthroughs could alter the signal like that... if 576i@50Hz is fed directly to the set the NTSC LCD exhibits the usual 576/50 incompatibility symptoms. The output resolution is still likely to be 576i because the rest of my television sets will not accept the signal even when being passed through the Hauppauge.
post #8 of 8
Aasus latest model is the best processor which can do anything which you want.These type of converting all things its piece of cake so try to get this.You will do all thing which you want.
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