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Can I run Xbox straight to TV to avoid lag?

post #1 of 13
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After upgrading from an SD to HD tv I learned about this little pain in my a$$ called processing lag. Took me a while to get it reduced on my TV alone so that I could even play modern warfare (when I first plugged it in it was completely unplayable). I really dont want to even deal with it again now that I am shopping for receivers. Instead of playing the whole "what receiver has the least amount of lag" game, im hoping to run my video straight to the TV and my sound through the HT.

My 360 is pretty old I bought it from a friend and it has no HDMI out. Right now it goes into the TV via component cables. Im pretty new to all the HT stuff so can some tell me is it possible to split the video and audio signals to avoid any process lag while still getting surround sound?

Ill obviously try it out and see if there is lag and if not then thats mellow ill just run it all through the receiver but I don't want to have to think about processing lag when im receiver shopping as its already complicated enough.

thanks
post #2 of 13
with the component cable 99% of people run component to the TV and optical audio to their receiver, which is how you want it.

also, many tv's perform better on the VGA input in regards to input timing, i personally prefer VGA in every way to component on my TV.
post #3 of 13
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Fantastic so I wont even have to buy a new cable.

This might be a dumb question but if I go the VGA route how would I split it? The component has those red, yellow, white cords but I always thought VGA was a single plug, like the ones I used to plug in an old CPU monitor back in the day.

Thanks for help I am new to this
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by Kali927 View Post

This might be a dumb question but if I go the VGA route how would I split it? The component has those red, yellow, white cords but I always thought VGA was a single plug, like the ones I used to plug in an old CPU monitor back in the day.

I use VGA...the plug just has an optical output, so I run sound to the receiver that way (I haven't bought an HDMI 360 or receiver yet). Of course this would assume your TV has a VGA input...

And component is red/blue/green. You are thinking composite (red/yellow/white) which would be the worst way you could hook it up. Reading your post, you must have it hooked up with composite...which must look horrible on your HDTV. So you should either run component (the red/blue/green) or VGA to your TV, then optical to your receiver.
post #5 of 13
mproper is correct, you can run VGA and red+white for tv speakers, then you run optical from the vga plug to your receiver for multi-channel audio, when you dont want to use your receiver/surround sound, you still get red and white 2 channel on your tv speakers... this is the best setup in your situation.

you'll need to buy the official MS vga cable (others can be hit and miss on quality, i'd rather do it right the first time) and you'll need to buy an optical cable in a length that will reach from the back of the 360 to your new receiver.
post #6 of 13
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I just looked at the cords and there are actually 5 plugged in, green, blue, red, white, red, in that order. Is that component? I will have to look into the VGA cable soon. It has what looks like a VGA port where it says "PC IN" so I assume thats it.

Thanks for your help
post #7 of 13
Basically, you want this (again assuming your TV has a VGA connection)

XBOX -> VGA or Component -> TV
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|--> Optical -> Receiver
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|--> Red/White -> TV (this would be optional and only used when you want to use the TV speakers for some reason)

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

I think you mean he needs an optical cable. Basically, you want this (again assuming your TV has a VGA connection)

no fair! i edited long before you posted!


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Originally Posted by Kali927 View Post

I just looked at the cords and there are actually 5 plugged in, green, blue, red, white, red, in that order. Is that component? I will have to look into the VGA cable soon. It has what looks like a VGA port where it says "PC IN" so I assume thats it.

Thanks for your help

yes, thats correct, red, blue, green for video, red and white for audio. if you look on the plug on the 360 side, you'll see a small square black jack, thats for optical and thats how you'll get surround sound to your receiver, the VGA cable is the same way in that respect.

you could run component now and get VGA later, but you'll need optical right away to connect to your HT receiver.

also, you should check your manual, some HDTV's have a "gimped" "pc in" port, so if you have a 720p tv, make sure the VGA does 720p and not something weird.... if you want, post the TV model number and someone may be able to find a manual or look it up for you.
post #9 of 13
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TV is Sony KDL-46V5100

I bought it as an open box at Best Buy so it didn't come with any sort of manual. Also if anyone happens to know off the top of their head I have been looking for a way to turn the 120 Hz down to 60Hz because sometimes it makes movies look unnatural. There are some "auto-motion" modes and stuff like that but I haven't found anything to work really well in that respect.
post #10 of 13
I'd go to Sony's website and download the TV's manual. I'm sure it's available there.
post #11 of 13
cool, your TV does 1080p over VGA, so you should be good to go, the PC input wont have any processing "features" like auto motion or any of that, so it's as lag free as you can get.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDL40V5100.pdf

as for your other question, i'd check the TV forums, but you usually cant turn that stuff completely off, you can set it to "low" but it's still technically on... check that user manual too.
post #12 of 13
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ya I have planned on it for a while but this new surround sound addiction has dominated my internet searching at the moment lol
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

cool, your TV does 1080p over VGA, so you should be good to go, the PC input wont have any processing "features" like auto motion or any of that, so it's as lag free as you can get.

http://www.docs.sony.com/release/KDL40V5100.pdf

as for your other question, i'd check the TV forums, but you usually cant turn that stuff completely off, you can set it to "low" but it's still technically on... check that user manual too.

thanks man you have been more than helpful
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