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post #61 of 640
I have a PN58C6500 and the default picture setting for Standard were not to my taste.
The image was not strong enough, contrast was too high, brightness was too low, color were a little saturated, and the flesh tones were slightly reddish. I reset mine to the following:
Cell Light 15
Contrast 80
Brightness 70
Sharpness 50
Color 45
Tint (G/R) G55
Is this right for you? It all depends on your room lighting and your personal preferences. In our somewhat darkened room, this looks great, and the people look exactly like they should, and the big outdoor shots (golf course, buildings, landscapes) are gorgeous. After this, I set the cell light for 10 on Relax, and 20 for Dynamic, and all the rest the same. So as the room light changes, I can just go from Relax (dark room) to Standard (somelight) to Dynamic (for bright room) and that's the only things that changes. By the way, unless you use an HDMI cable to something (DirectTV DVR, Blu-Ray, etc., the picture settings will revert to factory settings and not save. Have fun !
post #62 of 640
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Originally Posted by Eltredor View Post

Could anyone help me out?
Today I went into the store to see the C6500 TV.
It was standing next to a new LED TV, I have to tell you.
But when I was watching the TV, the background was completely grey, like Washed-out black.
I asked for the remote and put it on movie, dynamic and other 2 options, but it didn't get any more black than the grey.
The LED TV was superb in it's blackness.
Could anyone tell me how you can make this TV more black?
The regular colors were fine though, but when there comes black in... ouch.

In the menu there is a black level setting that goes from None to Darkest. Darkest produces superb blacks and shadows.
post #63 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTechie View Post

I have a PN58C6500 and the default picture setting for Standard were not to my taste.
The image was not strong enough, contrast was too high, brightness was too low, color were a little saturated, and the flesh tones were slightly reddish. I reset mine to the following:
Cell Light 15
Contrast 80
Brightness 70
Sharpness 50
Color 45
Tint (G/R) G55
Is this right for you? It all depends on your room lighting and your personal preferences. In our somewhat darkened room, this looks great, and the people look exactly like they should, and the big outdoor shots (golf course, buildings, landscapes) are gorgeous. After this, I set the cell light for 10 on Relax, and 20 for Dynamic, and all the rest the same. So as the room light changes, I can just go from Relax (dark room) to Standard (somelight) to Dynamic (for bright room) and that's the only things that changes. By the way, unless you use an HDMI cable to something (DirectTV DVR, Blu-Ray, etc., the picture settings will revert to factory settings and not save. Have fun !

thank you! our first picture settings post! lol.
post #64 of 640
Hey guys, quick question.

Is the 58c6500 the same as the 58c6400 that we have here in Canada at best buy??

Also, how do the following TVs compare in terms of best to worst:

Samsung 58c550
Samsung 58b850
Samsung 58c6400

Cheers
post #65 of 640
Everyone I use my system nearly exclusively for gaming. I am running the 1019 update and have changed my set to a C8000.

I found this combination gives the best trade off for darkness (black depth) with the ability to see finer details.

Mode is Movie
Cell Light 16
Contrast 87
Brightness 64
Sharpness 11
Color 54
Tint (G/R) G50
Black Tone (Darker)
Dynamic Contrast (Medium)
Gamma (+1)
Flesh Tone (+1)
Edge Ench (Yes)
Color Tone (Warm 1)
Filters (all to Auto)
HDMI Black Level (Low)
LL
LL
post #66 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhinoballz View Post

Everyone I use my system nearly exclusively for gaming. I am running the 1019 update and have changed my set to a C8000.

I found this combination gives the best trade off for darkness (black depth) with the ability to see finer details.

Mode is Movie
Cell Light 16
Contrast 87
Brightness 64
Sharpness 11
Color 54
Tint (G/R) G50
Black Tone (Darker)
Dynamic Contrast (Medium)
Gamma (+1)
Flesh Tone (+1)
Edge Ench (Yes)
Color Tone (Warm 1)
Filters (all to Auto)
HDMI Black Level (Low)

How does this tv perform gamewise?
Any input lagg?
No screen burn from logo's or whatever?
Motion judder?

Thanks for the info!
Planning to game on this tele as well(xbox360/ps3)
post #67 of 640
I am planning to buy a Samsung model very soon as I have the opportunity to do so at a very good price direct. I'm not interested in 3D so I am picking between the 6500 and 6400 models. I have read through the forums and do not see any explanations for the differences in these models. Does anyone have any idea as to the difference? I was surprised to see that the cost to me on the 6400 was significantly higher than the 6500.

Another option is to size up be and go with the 58" 550 class, but I then give up the ultrathin and I am assuming some picture quality.

I would appreciate any feedback that you might have on these sets.
post #68 of 640
I'm betting they're the same beast (maybe different suppliers). The owner's manual for both is the same manual.
post #69 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suchisan View Post

How does this tv perform gamewise?
Any input lagg?
No screen burn from logo's or whatever?
Motion judder?

Thanks for the info!
Planning to game on this tele as well(xbox360/ps3)

I'd really like to know this as well, I'm trying to pick out a TV for my new house and I'm going crazy trying to find out some of this info.
post #70 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suchisan View Post

How does this tv perform gamewise?
Any input lagg?
No screen burn from logo's or whatever?
Motion judder?

Thanks for the info!
Planning to game on this tele as well(xbox360/ps3)

From what I can tell, there is no overt/discernible lag in games from the TV. Although most games have sections of FPS drops that seem like input lag.

For the screen burn (IR), I highly recommend breaking in the set for 80-100hrs. Before this menu IR would be there for longer (but under one minute) than desired, after it lasts for 10-15 seconds.
Well after the update, I do not have the MJ options, although I think Cinema Smooth is there for 24p blu-ray moves...which look amazing.

If there a downside, this TV will expose poor quality sources (like older DVDs or crappy SD signal).
post #71 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by jvcarter6 View Post

I am planning to buy a Samsung model very soon as I have the opportunity to do so at a very good price direct. I'm not interested in 3D so I am picking between the 6500 and 6400 models. I have read through the forums and do not see any explanations for the differences in these models. Does anyone have any idea as to the difference? I was surprised to see that the cost to me on the 6400 was significantly higher than the 6500.

Another option is to size up be and go with the 58" 550 class, but I then give up the ultrathin and I am assuming some picture quality.

I would appreciate any feedback that you might have on these sets.

The only difference I could find between the 6500/6400 is the ToC (touch of color). The 6500 is black and the 6400 is rose black. Other than that I really dont know what the differences are. They have the exact same specs and features. In Canada it seems hard to find the 6500, the only place I could find one is at Costco. BB, FS and Audiotronics only carry the 6400.

I bought the 50c6400 at the Brick for 1399 and I am very happy with my purchase.

PQ wise, Im still running the breakin slides but I tested the set in movie mode with Monsters Inc (BD) and all I have to say is WOW!!!!

Ther's a very slight buzz that I can only hear standing right next to the set.
post #72 of 640
bought this TV last week and so far I am pretty amazed. I haven't played with any of the settings (aside from putting it on movie mode for the break-in period), but I would love to see more settings on this page.

As for PQ, this TV really surprised me - BD looks amazing, but the best part was SD signal, which looks actually pretty damn good for what it is, specially when compared to many other SD signals which I've seen on other TV's (mind you, i'm no expert)

As for the difference between 6500/6400 - there is non - one's for limited distribution (only a few retailers) and the other for wide distribution (i.e. anyone who wants to sell samsung TV) - i saw a post on cnet saying that

Also mine has no buzz

Hope to see more settings soon
post #73 of 640
Hello all!
i'm waiting for the PS50C6500 (european version) arrives to Spain, and the first units are exposed on Our local retailers, i was this afternoon in one of them and i clearly aprecciated motion judder on it watching Avatar...
could please some European owner confirm that the judder exist or not in the european version?, some users in Spanish forums are posting that the C7000 series doesn't have motion judder, but they have the Smooth film option on their sets.
Does somebody have changed the C6500 into C8000 in the service menu to get the smooth film option? it's possible to do it, like in the American ones?
have this solutioned the Motion judder in case that originally had it?
All the spanish comunity will apreciate your answers , because the C6500 model it's just landing here.
Thanks.
post #74 of 640
PN50C6500 arrived yesterday. No buzzing. The picture looks great out of the box. I still need to break it in and calibrate it though.

edit: initially had burn it in. that would be bad
post #75 of 640
Just wanted to let everyone know that my new PN50C6400 has the directional buzz everyone is dreading hearing upon turning on their new TV. Very unfortunate, because otherwise the picture is great. Would still love to hear whatever came of tdotson41's ISF calibration....

I am getting a new one in about a week, hopefully there is no buzz, otherwise I think I am going to step up to the UN55C6300 LED model.

On a side note, how does the reflectivity of this set compare to other plasma's out there? And am I correct in assuming that LCD's/LED's have much better(less) reflectivity?

Also, how does one go about "breaking in" a new TV, and what are the benefits of doing so?

Sorry for all the questions
post #76 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by devm View Post

Just wanted to let everyone know that my new PN50C6400 has the directional buzz everyone is dreading hearing upon turning on their new TV. Very unfortunate, because otherwise the picture is great. Would still love to hear whatever came of tdotson41's ISF calibration....

I am getting a new one in about a week, hopefully there is no buzz, otherwise I think I am going to step up to the UN55C6300 LED model.

On a side note, how does the reflectivity of this set compare to other plasma's out there? And am I correct in assuming that LCD's/LED's have much better(less) reflectivity?

Also, how does one go about "breaking in" a new TV, and what are the benefits of doing so?

Sorry for all the questions

I just got rid of the UN55C6300 LED model...It had audio syncing issues and there was NO solution .Also, I was noticing lots of jerking motions on pretty much every program I watched. (I also found another person with the same exact issues and he coudn't find a solution as well)..When it wasn't having those issues I loved the TV but I couldn't live with that!! I ordered the PN58C6500 and it will be delivered tomorrow!
post #77 of 640
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Originally Posted by Needanewbewbtube View Post

Oh man, my order for the C6500 is pending over at Eastcoasttvs. I'm stoked. Below is the stand I'm gonna buy to go with it.

http://www.amazon.com/Techcraft-HBL5...4494735&sr=8-1

It's gonna look awesome when it's all set up. Can anyone recommend me a cheap DVD player to run the break in slides? I don't want to use my 360/PS3 to do that.Also, specifically which type of HDMI cables should I buy? Thanks!

Why not just run the slides off of a USB key, < $10.
post #78 of 640
^ I didn't think of that! Yeah that might be the way to go, because I can just buy a 16GB Flash Drive run the slides and then use that drive with my 360 for increased storage. Nice. I decided not to go with Eastcoast TV's, going to go with Sears. Waiting for them to get it in stock. I'm still unsure of what type of HDMI cables I'm going to need though. I'd like to order the flash drive and the all the cables I'm going to need today.
post #79 of 640
I got my 6500 yesterday and it's a buzzer. It's obnoxious; it comes and goes depending on what the TV is displaying. Lots of blacks or on-screen menu, it's loud.

I'm going to give it a few days to see if it improves and call up store for an exchange if it doesn't change. I'll update the thread with outcome.
post #80 of 640
Hi,i have a pn50c6500 (ps50c6500 european model),i live in Switzerland,and in the service menu i can't change the tv model,it's greyed

Also i see some image vibrations (motion judder ?? ) in white images

Is this the motion judder?
post #81 of 640
My PN50C6500 arrived and I setup last night and I'm impressed. I haven't tweaked any settings yet; right now I'm using movie mode and it looked good for Firefly on Blu last night.
Some notables:
The set does have a buzz but its not very loud. I only heard it when I was right in front of the set. It's definitely NOT louder then the PS3 fan. Or my xbox fan for that matter. By the time I set on the couch about 7 feet away, I do not hear the buzz.

The stand feels flimsy to me. The screws are tight and all but it just feels unsecure and it seems to lean just slightly to the right. One day I will probably mount it.

It is thin! My previous TV was an old Pioneer plasma. I guess I just didn't realize how thin plasma's have become.

Right now I have the antenna hooked up and I'm just running the TV for awhile. This weekend I plan to play some games and post back on burn in/lag issues if any.
post #82 of 640
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Originally Posted by larryt36 View Post

I just got rid of the UN55C6300 LED model...It had audio syncing issues and there was NO solution .Also, I was noticing lots of jerking motions on pretty much every program I watched. (I also found another person with the same exact issues and he coudn't find a solution as well)..When it wasn't having those issues I loved the TV but I couldn't live with that!! I ordered the PN58C6500 and it will be delivered tomorrow!

I've had my TV for almost a week now....

It does have a slight buzz...It comes and goes, it seems to be dependent on what I'm doing i.e. watching TV, using the PS3 or the Internet feature..The buzzing is something I can easily deal with...Especially since most of the time I don't hear it.

Picture: I like it much better than the LED. The LED made things look too cartoonish....AND I have not experienced any audio syncing or juddering at all.

I've only made two adjustments to my pictures settings. I set the black level to darkest and changed it to movie mode. This thing has an awesome picture without ANY calibration at all.

Internet: I have it hooked up via Ethernet and have really enjoyed having the ability to view Netflix movies, Amazon movies, and another one I don't recall right now..I have also used the YouTube and Facebook widgets.

Media: I was able so successfully stream music, pictures, and videos from my PC.

Basically, almost every thing I was using on my PS3 in regards to internet, I am able to do with this TV.

In summary:
I'm totally in LOVE with this TV and hope it will last me many years.
post #83 of 640
Purchased my c6400 3 days ago and aside from the constant buzz that everyone talks about I am extremely happy with the TV. I ventured in to the service menu as I read about changing the option the the c8000 with great success and wanted to check it out. I was able to do that, but now every time I turn on the tv it says:

"Maingboard has been changed. Please
go into service mode and setup below options.
-Type, Front Color Option"

Can someone please advise on how to remedy this.....

Thanks in advance!!
post #84 of 640
Hi folks,

I just picked up a PN50c6400 and I think I need some help.. I went into the Service Menu to see what model I could tweek it to, and I thought I chose the same one that was there before, but when I turned the TV off, I got a message stating that the motherboard settings have changed. Could someone tell me what model is displayed on their service menu so I can make sure I have the same one showing, or even tell me what one I can select on there. I know.. it was a dummy move.. I was just so happy to play with it.. duh...

Thanks for the help..

-H

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heineken77 View Post

Hey guys, quick question.

Is the 58c6500 the same as the 58c6400 that we have here in Canada at best buy??

Also, how do the following TVs compare in terms of best to worst:

Samsung 58c550
Samsung 58b850
Samsung 58c6400

Cheers
post #85 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdmiller View Post

Purchased my c6400 3 days ago and aside from the constant buzz that everyone talks about I am extremely happy with the TV. I ventured in to the service menu as I read about changing the option the the c8000 with great success and wanted to check it out. I was able to do that, but now every time I turn on the tv it says:

"Maingboard has been changed. Please
go into service mode and setup below options.
-Type, Front Color Option"

Can someone please advise on how to remedy this.....

Thanks in advance!!


Hi,you need to change in the service menu,the type,front color, to tc-black i think. Someone said this in another topic.
post #86 of 640
The actual main concern I have is with the model #.. I can choose from PC6400 or BC6400. Does anyone know what the difference is? I selected the PC6400, and the TV seems fine, but the statement about changing the main board makes me think that I chose the wrong one.. ;( Anyways, if anyone can help me out by letting me know what they have their 6400 set to, I would be gratefull !!!

Thanks again..

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepzj View Post

Hi folks,

I just picked up a PN50c6400 and I think I need some help.. I went into the Service Menu to see what model I could tweek it to, and I thought I chose the same one that was there before, but when I turned the TV off, I got a message stating that the motherboard settings have changed. Could someone tell me what model is displayed on their service menu so I can make sure I have the same one showing, or even tell me what one I can select on there. I know.. it was a dummy move.. I was just so happy to play with it.. duh...

Thanks for the help..

-H
post #87 of 640
Quote:
Originally Posted by VICTORDASILVA View Post

Hi,you need to change in the service menu,the type,front color, to tc-black i think. Someone said this in another topic.

That was the ticket...thanks!
post #88 of 640
Sorry to bother you, but what exact model # did you use on the TV in the service menu.. there are sooo many of them..


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Originally Posted by kdmiller View Post

That was the ticket...thanks!
post #89 of 640
After years, literally, lurking on this forum and doing other research, I have finally made the plunge and bought a flat screen TV, a PN50C6400 from BJ's. According to the Samsung web site there is no difference from the 6500 other than the bezel and the fact that the 6400's are for the wholesale clubs, whereas the 6500's are the for general distribution to Best Buy et al.

Let's hope this doesn't mean the 6400's are 6500's that have slight defects that make them unsuitable to be sold as a 6500.

I'll have to say that the picture on the display model in BJ's was absolutely awful... greenish/yellowish tinge to it and the blacks were all grayed out. I made sure what the return policy is - 30 days, for those that might be curious.

I'm also a bit skeptical that they actually know that the tv shouldn't be laid on it's side. I had to remind them of that when they pulled it off the shelf. They only had two in stock, the display model and one in the box, and the box had several dents in it, and generally looked as if it had not been treated very gently.

Anyway one thing I did learn from looking at the display model was that there is an ethernet connector on the back, something that was not at all clear from everything else I had read. I had hoped there would be, but was fully expecting that internet connectivity was going to have to be through the Samsung wireless USB adapter.

Anyway it's paid for but I haven't got it home yet as the box wouldn't fit in my car. Going to go back later and pick it up. I will report back with my first impressions sometime, but it might be a while, as I haven't even got an HD STB from verizon yet, and I'm still not quite sure where I'm going to put the TV!

Cheers everyone!
post #90 of 640
how would you guys compare the Panasonic 50G25? I am looking at 50G25 and 50c6500 for comparison. I saw a youtube video review but do you guys have pictures of some dark movies like batman or something?
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