3D Television - Fad or Here To Stay? - Page 69

Pretty bad for some who earlier was bragging and posted this....


With you, sometimes it's like fishing with dynamite......

I wouldn't even say many... I'd say most... I don't have a 3D TV yet, but I've been buying the 3D versions of my Blu-rays which all (so far) support 2D as well, and that way I'm future-proofed when I upgrade to 3D.

I will say that the timing of 3D is a bit unfortunate... because most people upgraded to HD when their SD tuners stopped working, and that was just a few months too early for most of them to end up with 3D (either accidentally or on purpose).

I love my 67" Samsung DLP, and that is the only reason I don't have 3D... I got it a year too soon. I love 3D in the theatres (at least the movies that do 3D right). I want 3D at home, but I am not ready to replace my already-awesome TV.

Guess that's what seperates you and I. At least I can admit I made a mistake. How about you?

I have not made one anywhere near like what you just did in this thread.

Has anyone compared passive 3D to active ?

I have to say I am not a fan of passive

I have seen the LG displays set up in the Best Buy stores of passive

It may have something to do with the fact that I was never a big fan of LG LED/LCD TV's

But the edges of images look jagged and its just not a good image

But...the glasses are cheap I guess


Warren

you can buy a couple of different blu ray players that have 2 HDMI outputs
Samsung and Panasonic both have those models
They will allow you to run one to the TV and one to the AVR..in case you have older products that won't pass 3D

I am not sure that your point about 3D televisions is completely valid

It is widely available in mid line models now...the 550 series LG plasma is a perfect example

while that TV is by no means the pinnacle of picture technology in terms of quality
It is 3D capable


As I have said before..People should make their purchases on the quality of the 2D picture
That being said..if you are picky about things like blk level and color accuracy

Then you will be buying a 3D capable TV


Warren

There are bunch of other articles out there that come to similar conclusions, but this one kind of sums up the entire "3D" experiment.....

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...id=BFnNMGvaj5H

While the poll attached to this thread is unscientific, we're AV enthusiasts. And, even 2/3s of us believe 3D is merely a blip (or a fad) and won't take hold. And, if us early adopters, those of us who enjoy this hobby, feel that way, I believe the casual person certainly won't adopt it in any grand fashion. Certainly, there's plenty of history whenever 3D is trying once again to make a push, and sees a surge, only to quickly fizzle out and go away.

Fad

You have to take articles like that with a grain of salt

It mentions the prices have plummeted and that 2D set costs what last year 3D did

Not really accurate..for a couple of reasons

The price of flat panels televisions has been falling rapidly before 3D came into the scene. So if the price falling price component is used a litmus test ..then flat screen TV's are a failure

It also doesn't mention the fact that 3D is now available on mid tier models where it wasn't last year

Another example
...the last time I checked standard DVD was still outselling blu ray

does that mean blu ray is a fad?

I see standard DVD players getting rarer and rare in the stores..and shelves taken over by blu ray players

Stand alone CD players are a thing of the past

The fact we don't know the manufacturers sales goals or their cost structure just fuels speculation

For instance

does it cost them anymore to make blu ray discs than standard DVD?
Blu ray discs certainly cost more at retail

You are also making the assumption that a product has to be mainstream to be a success

There a whole lot of successful companies and products that are not marketed to, or sold to, a mainstream audience

The other question them becomes..if your target audience is say 15-20% of the market...is that product a service a success and/or profitable?

No one can say except the purveyor of that good or service

Don't' speculate that a good ( or service) is a not a success or is a fad based on the fact that its not in every Walmart in the country

I take myself as case in point

when I looking for a TV..I really only shopped the top 2 models of a couple of manufacturer
Models that probably only make up a very small percentage of the manufacturers volume

I have upgraded incessantly in audio for 5-7 years

I don't consider myself mainstream...but I know there are hundreds of thousands( if not millions) of others that do the same thing I do..and shop for the same tier of products

Based on your definition of Fad...I have been( and many others have as well) playing that role for many years and will likely continue to do so


Warren

I initially voted FAD on this poll. But after buying a Samsung 3D display, I've enjoyed movies like Avatar, Alice in Wonderland and Legend of the Guardians in ways that exceeded my expectations.

It's not that they have superceded their 2D versions, which were great in their own way, but the experience has become much more immersive and enjoyable than before. Hard to watch these same movies in 2D again, as the added depth is clearly missing.

So I'd like to change my vote to: BRING ON THE CONTENT!

The definition of "fad" uses the word "temporary." Doesn't that word mean short time/short lived?

The current 3D rebirth started in 2005. There is a whole slate of 3D movies scheduled for not only 2012 and 2013 but beyond. More 3D content is being added to 3DTV channels. SMPTE is getting ready to make it's 3D OTA standard official. More titles are added to the 3D BD release list every month. More 3DTVs are being sold. More HDTVs come with the 3D feature. There is true industry wide support for 3D.

Does all that sound like something temporary?

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Again, this is extermely entertaining for me

I purchased my 3D capable set last October. More 3D TV's, more 3D capable Bluray players, and more 3D movies & cable programing are currently available for the consumer now than last year at this same time.

Peoples next purchase of a new TV, or next (more likely their first) Bluray player will probably be 3D capable... whether that is next week, next month, next year, or in the distant future. Manufacturers are including this now even in the midlevel (not high end, like a year ago) product lines

These aren't "Beenie Babies" or "Pet Rocks"... this is pushing entertainment emersion to a new level... just as sourround sound has done. I've been around long enough to remember how 5.1 was attacked by audiophiles with magnificent (and expensive) gear as a gimmick... something manufacturers were doing just to get more of the consumers cash! (That too has a history of "false starts" over the years )

Yup, sounds like a gimmick and a fad to me!

Opps, sorry Lee, I'm a slow typist. +1 was for Turnnel 1's post, but as you can see, we come to the same conclusion that the "fad" group can not or will not conceed to... they probably view NovaKane as a traitor to boot!

(Wonderful how great minds think alike! )

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Avatar is in a class by itself

That movie remains my "litmus" video for both audio and video demos


Warren

Agreed, but I also have to hand it to Guardians - that is simply an amazing looking movie. I forgot it was my library, I think I'll watch it tonight actually.

Yep, I remember that also. Articles were published that would attack the 5.1 format as a fad and nothing but a scheme to make money. We all know how that turned out. As 5.1 is the baseline standard for today.

Even today, 7.1 is attacked by some and some claim it is nothing but a gimmick and fad.

IMAX announced it will be releasing a documentary in 3D about tornadoes. One of the crews from 'Storm Chasers' filmed live tornadoes using a 3d camera.

Content is really ramping up as far as video games. There are a number of great titles available now on consoles, Playstation 3 in particular, that are great in 3D. There are plenty more on the way this year. These games convinced me to buy a 3D display, much earlier than I thought I would. I've had it for almost two months and I'm not at all starved for content. I have yet to view a 3D Blu-ray.

I'm always curious of the complaint that the industry is pushing 3D, or that 3D is just an attempt to make money. These are companies that sell things to make money. Attempting to make money is what they do, it's why they exist. They've been trying to make money the whole time, 3D is nothing new.

"Pushing" 3D also doesn't make any sense to me. For those who want it, it's not pushing, it's "offering" or "supporting" 3D. Furthermore, every company out there that's selling something is "pushing" their product. Turn on the TV. There are tons of commercials. I see companies pushing snacks I don't want, cars I don't need, medicine for something I don't have, and yet this doesn't bother me. Why are some people so bothered when 3D is the product they're not interested in?

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Warren

I agree. Still feel like the 2D BD was better than the 3D theater version.

Best Buy had a LG 3D w/ 14 pairs of glasses this week.

and I liked the 3D BD better than I liked the 2D BD

Frys had that same TV last week for a lot less than BB is selling is for

BTW that is passive and not active 3D technology

I much prefer the picture quality of active 3D technology


Warren

I think it's just a fad. Wearing glasses is a pain, plus the plot of 3D movies is usually limited, and more suitable for my 10 year old. Give me a nice HD screen with an engaging movie over a cheap 3D Hollywood action/cartoon movie any time.

I hate the glasses! The picture is not as nice as 1080p. I mean, it's cool every once in a while, but the existing movies are pretty one dimensional. Give me a real movie, with a real plot, character development, etc. with a gorgeous picture, and I'm all over it.

LOL - too bad there are so few of those being made also.

Hollywood of late has been make crap movies. . . . . 2D movies, 3D movies . . movies in general. 3D shouldn't be blamed specifically. It's just a tool in the directors tool box. Like aspect ratio or directional multichannel sound.

I have never heard someone say; "That movie sucked because it was only in 1.85 AR."

Hope it goes away. ESPN pulled their channel and I hope more do. The quality and distraction is ridiculous. Just when TVs were getting good and HD was becoming consistant 3D had to mess it up. I saw Narnia in Theaters and I took off the glasses and watched the movie a bit fuzzy, it was so much better.

Espn pulled their 3D channel??

No they didn't. Just another uninformed person.

Good. I kinda figured that

WRONG!

ESPN did NOT pull its 3D channel.

I do not watch any movies yet as the glasses just annoy me but it is here to stay. Way too much of the industry already behind it and fully invested. It is also yet again another way to get the masses to prematurely replace their displays.

JD

I would disagree with that

Have you seen Avatar in your home in 3D on a plasma TV?

There seems to be some inconsistency in how good the 3D is from movie to movie

Warren