3D Television - Fad or Here To Stay? - Page 82

Originally Posted by turnne1

LOL..I love it

Clearly..you are comfortable with two facts

1. You are comfortable with extended commentary on items you have no experience with

2. You are comfortable using incorrect transaction pricing to try to prove your point
That speaks..IMO..to credibility

You really should look at websites like slickdeals..or one of the many others
and see what people ACTUALLY PAY for these items
It might prove more useful when you are trying to use price to make a point

FYI....MSRP can mean nothing in regard to what the product actually sells for in flat panel TV's..or audio for that matter as well

You also might actually try an item before you comment on the differences it makes or doesn't

You and Joe can sit around and speculate all day about items you have no experience with and talk about incorrect price points...

You do realize you bring no accuracy to the table?

that would be my definition of dense

Having a different opinion of an item you have experience with is a matter of differencing tastes

But when you have no personal experience with the product....its frankly a worthless opinion...

Warren

Originally Posted by siqniz

forget about wearing glasses

Originally Posted by Airion

A common sentiment. But I wonder how deeply rooted this aversion to glasses, and 3D in general, really is. Here's my little anecdote:

My wife and I saw Avatar 3D in the theater. For both of us, it was our first experience with a proper 3D movie. I was outright excited for the 3D, while she was uninterested if not suspicious. Turns out, I was disappointed. My brain had trouble putting the two images together, and I had double vision for the first third of the movie. I'm not sure what exactly the problem was, but I suspect it was the theater, so the experience didn't dampen my interest in 3D itself. For my wife though, it confirmed her suspicions.

Last September I bought a DLP 3D projector, mainly for games and the occasional movie. I asked my wife if she would ever be interested in watching 3D movies together with it, and she was adamant that she never would. So, I only bought one pair of glasses. The projector and glasses arrived, and I enjoyed some 3D gaming on my own. I managed to convince my wife to just take a look, and handed off the glasses as I played. Problem was, she wouldn't give them back! She conceded that the 3D looked natural and that yes, maybe I should get a second pair of glasses sooner rather than later. Once the second pair arrived, she would occasionally watch me play a 3D game (she's not much of a gamer herself). She didn't have any complaints about the 3D, but she still said she didn't really like having to wear the glasses, and what little interest she had in 3D seemed to quickly wane.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I rented Pirates 4 on 3D Blu-ray. To my surprise, she wanted to watch it with me! And we did, and while she didn't have that much enthusiasm for the movie being in 3D, she had nothing to complain about with the viewing experience. Next up, over the past few days we watched Toy Story 1-3 on 3D Blu-ray. Before watching Toy Story 3 last night, I asked her what she thought of the 3D and if her preference wouldn't be to just watch it in 2D if given the choice. She replied that as far as a movie like Toy Story, she would prefer 3D.

So you can see that her opinion of 3D has taken taken quite a turn, maybe by 130 degrees. I think there's two factors that account for this, and it should be no surprise: good 3D tech for a bright image with no ghosting (DLP with a high gain screen in my case), and good 3D content both in terms of story and 3D quality. As for aversion to glasses, I think it's a psychological obstacle about having to do something new, rather than an actual physical one. Once she saw a few movies with the glasses, she realized there's really nothing to it. You put the glasses on and enjoy the movie as normal, with the added benefit that it helps hide your tears.

Originally Posted by Airion

A common sentiment. But I wonder how deeply rooted this aversion to glasses, and 3D in general, really is. Here's my little anecdote:

My wife and I saw Avatar 3D in the theater. For both of us, it was our first experience with a proper 3D movie. I was outright excited for the 3D, while she was uninterested if not suspicious. Turns out, I was disappointed. My brain had trouble putting the two images together, and I had double vision for the first third of the movie. I'm not sure what exactly the problem was, but I suspect it was the theater, so the experience didn't dampen my interest in 3D itself. For my wife though, it confirmed her suspicions.

Last September I bought a DLP 3D projector, mainly for games and the occasional movie. I asked my wife if she would ever be interested in watching 3D movies together with it, and she was adamant that she never would. So, I only bought one pair of glasses. The projector and glasses arrived, and I enjoyed some 3D gaming on my own. I managed to convince my wife to just take a look, and handed off the glasses as I played. Problem was, she wouldn't give them back! She conceded that the 3D looked natural and that yes, maybe I should get a second pair of glasses sooner rather than later. Once the second pair arrived, she would occasionally watch me play a 3D game (she's not much of a gamer herself). She didn't have any complaints about the 3D, but she still said she didn't really like having to wear the glasses, and what little interest she had in 3D seemed to quickly wane.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I rented Pirates 4 on 3D Blu-ray. To my surprise, she wanted to watch it with me! And we did, and while she didn't have that much enthusiasm for the movie being in 3D, she had nothing to complain about with the viewing experience. Next up, over the past few days we watched Toy Story 1-3 on 3D Blu-ray. Before watching Toy Story 3 last night, I asked her what she thought of the 3D and if her preference wouldn't be to just watch it in 2D if given the choice. She replied that as far as a movie like Toy Story, she would prefer 3D.

So you can see that her opinion of 3D has taken taken quite a turn, maybe by 130 degrees. I think there's two factors that account for this, and it should be no surprise: good 3D tech for a bright image with no ghosting (DLP with a high gain screen in my case), and good 3D content both in terms of story and 3D quality. As for aversion to glasses, I think it's a psychological obstacle about having to do something new, rather than an actual physical one. Once she saw a few movies with the glasses, she realized there's really nothing to it. You put the glasses on and enjoy the movie as normal, with the added benefit that it helps hide your tears.

Originally Posted by Ghpr13

Airion,
I agree with you. I think for most people the aversion to wearing the glasses can be overcome by "good 3D tech" and "good 3D content" like you stated. I had a similar experience with the movie Puss In Boots. My wife just loved the 3D effects and was really glad we chose the 3D version.

Ghpr13

Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin

Agree as well. While it could be a cause for concern in the movies, at home one could just stop the bluray and take a rest if the disc is causing any eyestrain. We had to do that with the anaglyth version of "Polar Express". The same type version of "Journey To The Center Of The Earth" caused no such problem.

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

So Joe - this is your experience with 3D at home - watching Anaglyph 3D Blu-rays?

Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin

A very Merry Christmas, a very Happy Hanukkah, a very Joyous Kwanza and most of all, a very healthy and happy New Year that is just around the corner.

Joe and family

Originally Posted by larrimore

I think where we will settle is that most animated features will be available in 3D as well as a number of CGI-heavy superhero films and an amount of "gotcha" films like Piranha and Final Destination. There will also be a market for the "show off your system" films like Imax stuff.

What I think will move away from 3D is literally everything else. I doubt we will see many (or any) more high quality adventure movies or any dramas at all (like the Harry Potter films or Pirates of the Caribbean). I also believe all 3D programming on cable/sat will end up being the stuff mentioned before. I think 3D sports and regular programming will end soon.

This is certainly enough content to justify the additional cost of 3D for many, but unlike some predictions, it is not going to litterally rule the market.

Originally Posted by ambush1792

i think it is here to stay, the technology is getting cheaper all the time (samsung glasses down to $30 and phones with 3d cameras) and almost every movie now is coming out with a 3d option. i believe as soon as the adult entertainment industry backs it fully it will be here to stay, they decided the vhs-betamax war and the HD DVD-Blu-ray war, even though this isnt really a war it still will provide alot of support.

Originally Posted by theanimala

I have long been a subscriber to this thread with no posts. I consider myself an enthusiast to both audio and video, bit try to get they best quality of anything for the dollar. Last year I bought a Samsung PN63c8000 which came with the 3d bluray player and 2 sets of glasses for only a few bucks more than a c550. I bought for the pq, but was not upset to have 3d. Nearly a year later and we've watched a few minutes of 3d here and there. Just last week I bought another 2 sets of 3d glasses so my family of four can all watch a 3d movie at one time. We sit rather far (15/16 feet) so I move a couch to about 5/6 ft. It was probably too close. After 30 minutes of watching Tangled 3d, I was feeling slightly "buzzed" and my daughter wanted another movie. I do have to admit the 3d was very effective at that distance, but it did not look better than standard 2d bluray. The 2d br has a sharpness that just goes unmatched by the 3d version. My take, as an actual user of the product, is that it does work but for me and my family it will be for 15 minuter shorts or games. I wish I didn't feel sick, it really is a fun, unique way to watch a movie which strikes up a conversation with the family. But if all we talk about is that 3d is not all there for us then there's no reason to use it.

Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin

Is the c8000 the same screen size as the c550?

Originally Posted by Don Landis

Can't believe this is still in question. How many decades does 3D stereoscopic movies have to be made for it to be an ongoing option for movie producers to have as an option?

The only thing that is changing is the technology behind it.

It's here to stay and as the years pass the quality will continue to improve. The distribution venues will continue to grow, And, the numbers of in home displays will continue to grow.


Will it ever obsolete 2D? I think not, just as HDTV has not obsoleted SDTV. Nor has the DVD killed the movie theater. There is always room for one more flavor of ice cream.

Originally Posted by Jessica7777

It's here to stay, so long as they standardize on things (such as glasses, storage format, etc). As far as I can tell, most 3D capable HDTVs (3DTVs) cost about the same as last years standard HDTV displays, so I view that as a plus for 3D in the home.

Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin

But the cost of standard HDTV displays has dropped as well which thus neutralizes any gain in price savings. So it comes down to whether or not the consumer wants to spend more for the 3D feature or spend less for one without it.

Unit sales of 3DTVs increased more than 100% during the five-week winter retail holiday period ending Dec. 24, according to new data from The NPD Group. While 3D movies remain a mainstay at the box office, 3D consumption in the home has been sluggish due in part to premium prices on 3DTVs, limited content availability and requisite eyewear, among other issues.

That said, 3DTVs accounted for one in five dollars spent on TVs during the holidays – underscored by the fact that sales of big screen TVs, 50 inches or bigger, increased more than 32%. One in six flat panel TVs sold were above 50 inches, with screen size considered a prerequisite for 3D viewing

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

NPD: Xmas 3DTV Unit Sales Skyrocket 100%



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