Originally Posted by WilliamZX11
We've been waiting well over 30 years for any evidence that cables of the proper gauge make an audible difference. Penn's only been at it for 4 months. What's the rush?
Maybe, like all the others, he's found nothing to report.
+1.....Its a lot about nothing.
I thought long and hard about posting even had some PMs figuring out a path to take.
Well here it is.......
Joe said listen for awhile and I have been (when I have time).
The measurements didnt change, no impulse response change, no distortion change, no wavelet/CSD changes.
This project definitely lost its excitement when I was not even able to hear subjective differences (I really wanted that big difference!!).
If people are waiting for some incredible post changing the current view on cables you are going to be waiting a long time. What would happen if eithe conclusion was posted, not a lot would happen...its the same old stuff.
Is my system not high end enough?? Well that would mean that 99% of all other systems are not high end enough either so maybe 99% of all people should stop wasting time thinking about expensive cables.
Do I not do critical listening? I worked on that one....I put my setup in my office (where I spend a lot of time) with my best speakers and picked CDs that I love over the years that I thought would really show the differences like Pink Floyd and Rush. I even picked up some classical crap and listened....until I felt like I should shove toothpicks up my nails
Maybe Im doing the subjective uncontrolled listening in reverse and I have convinced myself there is no change in sound? People can conclude that if they need to pick one side, I suspect some will but I tried to find a difference in the sound through measurements too and there wasnt any.
Cables holds nothing in differences compared to even a slight alteration of an XO, a change in a delay of a driver in an active XO. A Change in my overall speaker response slope. IF people think there are differences in cables alone they simply do not understand what REAL changes can do to a setup. They have no real control over their setup either and all they have is subjective belief that maybe cable X will help them out. People searching for change should instead get full control of their setup and then tweak as needed. The differences are real.
Everyone can just call it a non-conclusion if they like I do not really care since I have too many other projects on the go. I have a brand new sub to get going (the LMS5400 /w 4000Watts in a 4 cuft box) and I have a brand new full range speaker build. Now Im planning a re-build of my HT room for 2012 with monster Folded horn designs.
My last point though (its an important one!!!) is that Joe S. is simply awesome. I recommend his services to anyone looking for very well built cables (I'm not a fan of the purple color though
). They are far superior in build quality to any other cables I have purchased over the years. The high end banana clips on the supercondutor 3 are impressive (Im trying to find them alone online) but that speaker wire is a bitch to work if tight spaces exist because its a very rigid cable, someone else would have to explain what its made of, I really do not want to search at this time.
Thanks Joe for all your help!!