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post #241 of 956
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Yeah I was wondering about the fuzz factor especially on black fabric - I ordered Commando Cloth for on my soffit, may use something similar for the screen wall - the "sucks the light out of the room" side is napped, a.k.a. fuzzy, so will pick up dust and fuzz like a magnet I'm sure. Not sure whether to put it up with the fuzzy side out or the weave side out - I actually like the look of the weave better, I guess when I get the material I'll take a look under lighting and then decide. I might use the napped side out for the screen wall and bulkhead above it, and weave side out on the rest of the soffit. We'll see.

I received a request for some pictures of the panels, so here are a few more showing how I made mine. They aren't perfect by any means - cheap plywood had some voids that caused a little tear out here and there when routing, but hopefully the fabric will cure all defects.

Wall segment chock full of panels (well almost - haven't done the bottom part where it will meet the carpet, since not 100% sure on the height of the carpet and pad). Vertical bracing and shelf is where the column mounts, I took the columns down to prep them for fabric.



Where two of the panels meet up with the rear column - 1/8" space between panels, and between the panels and column sides, to allow for fabric on both. To install the speaker pluggies, I temporarily screwed the panels in place with drywall screws (into furring), then drilled a 1/8" bit through the panel and furring strip. Then removed the panel, and drilled the holes for the ball and socket using those pilot holes, and inserted them. The fabric will of course cover the pilot holes and drywall screw holes.



The same junction, with the panel removed. The staples for the fabric that covers the column sides will be hidden by the edge of the wall panels. You can see here the drywall screws that held the furring strips in place while the liquid nails dried, and the socket for one of the ball and socket guides.



That panel removed, showing the ball part of the grill guides, and the corner lap joints.



Closeup of the lap joint, brad nails, some liquid nails squeeze out, and the ball of the grill guide.



Flip side of the corner - I used a 3/8" roundover - thought about going a little bigger, but router bits aren't cheap, so I decided I like it this way.



Cross brace on the back of the panel - I didn't double up the cross braces to meet the face like I did everywhere else, so as to avoid any possibility of the bump showing through the fabric.



Where the edge of the panels meets the side column. The 2x2 framing of the column slips into this channel - it is held in place by 10 or so long drywall screws through the column sides into the vertical bracing. The screws will be covered by the wall panels.

post #242 of 956
Are you planning to fill the frames with insulation? IN you opinion, would this be a alternate method to sound proof the room? Reason for asking, mine room was already finished, and i don't want to tear everything down, roof and 1 wall are not insulated. My thinking was to put panels over all the walls and roof, just wondering your thoughts on that.

Thanks

ps, great build, happy subscriber!
post #243 of 956
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

They aren't perfect by any means - cheap plywood had some voids that caused a little tear out here and there when routing, but hopefully the fabric will cure all defects.

I am in the middle of trying to get my panels covered. Although, I did make mine different than yours I had a few plywood pieces tear out and ended up using wood putty and spackle to fill in the low areas to ensure they didn't show through the fabric. Started with wood putty then changed to spackle, which made it easier to sand level with the frame. Both worked well and so far the panels look good.
post #244 of 956
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Are you planning to fill the frames with insulation? IN you opinion, would this be a alternate method to sound proof the room? Reason for asking, mine room was already finished, and i don't want to tear everything down, roof and 1 wall are not insulated. My thinking was to put panels over all the walls and roof, just wondering your thoughts on that.

Thanks

ps, great build, happy subscriber!

Thanks cdika! Yes, the frames - some of them anyway - will be filled with rigid insulation - not for soundproofing, but for acoustic treatments. Using them for soundproofing would not be effective, to do that you need to add mass and decoupling.

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I am in the middle of trying to get my panels covered. Although, I did make mine different than yours I had a few plywood pieces tear out and ended up using wood putty and spackle to fill in the low areas to ensure they didn't show through the fabric. Started with wood putty then changed to spackle, which made it easier to sand level with the frame. Both worked well and so far the panels look good.

Thanks, I'll probably do that too on a couple ugly corners.
post #245 of 956
Looking great, Brad. Keep those pics coming.
post #246 of 956
Moving right along Brad - lots of good info and pics here...thanks!
post #247 of 956
I missed it (I know I did) what fabric are you using to cover those columns? I assume you are also using the same for the walls or no?
post #248 of 956
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Moving right along Brad - lots of good info and pics here...thanks!
Thanks Ben!

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I missed it (I know I did) what fabric are you using to cover those columns? I assume you are also using the same for the walls or no?
On the column sides, I will be using faux leather vinyl ; on the faces, I will be using black speaker cloth.

I received my roll of black Commando Cloth yesterday - wish me luck on my foray into fabric stapling!
post #249 of 956
Brad - just read through your thread for the first time. Nice plan and nice work. I like the attention you are giving to the wall treatments and fabric panels.

I read that you are using 1" panels on side walls. How deep are your panels on back wall?

Thanks for the detailed pics!

Keep up the nice work.
post #250 of 956
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Thanks Ben!



On the column sides, I will be using faux leather vinyl ; on the faces, I will be using black speaker cloth.

I received my roll of black Commando Cloth yesterday - wish me luck on my foray into fabric stapling!

Awesome thanks for the response. Are you using the commando for the wall surfaces?
post #251 of 956
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Al the panels are 1" deep and sit on 1/2" furring, so the insulation can be either 1" 1/2" off the wall, or 1 1/2" against the wall. Will probably use 1" to save money?
post #252 of 956
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Got started on covering the soffits with fabric (black 16 oz Commando Cloth) this weekend. I started with a Harbor Freight combo brad nailer / narrow crown (1/4") stapler that I borrowed from my neighbor, but after about 6' of soffit, it started jamming, and then lost pressure, couldn't figure out how to fix it. Looks like I owe him a new one. So I went to HD and picked up a Porter Cable narrow crown stapler, and that has worked great.

Here is my temporary fabric cutting station - I had the triangle scraps sitting on the ground already, just screwed them to a 2x2. Notice the nice fist sized stain on the right side of the roll, goes all the way through apparently - would have been pissed, but (a) I didn't need the full width, and (b) it was far cheaper at $3.99/yd than anywhere else I found.



This stuff is extremely opaque, so there was no need to worry about doing anything to hide the reflective foil on the FSK. Its not real good at the blow test, but since I'm using it over bass trapping, not too concerned. Its also quite heavy, so required some muscling around to get it tight across the wide soffit underside - hope it doesn't sag over time.

First step was to hang the fabric up onto the tray edge using big binder clips - had my son help hold the 24' length of fabric while I clipped it up. The camera flash really washed out the colors, the ceiling is very dark brown, and the fabric is black.



Started stapling at 1" from the top of the tray edge (will cover with some black trim), and then to the furring strip at the edge of the soffit where it meets the wall. I will glue down the strip of fabric above the staples and over the tray edge top - not sure what glue to use yet, don't want overspray, so 777 is out. Maybe just white glue. Or contact cement.





almost done with the right wall:



right wall done stapling up, and trimmed off the excess:



Cut out the holes for the recessed lights, and added the trim:





left wall going up:



left wall trimmed, still need to cut out for the lights, and an access panel to get to the outlet that the rope light is plugged into:

post #253 of 956
Looking good to me Brad. Keep it up.
post #254 of 956
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Thanks Jon! Can't wait to be done with the soffit, so I can schedule the carpet install, move the seats into the room, and measure room response!
post #255 of 956
Another "handy dandy" use for binder clips. Ingenious!
post #256 of 956
keep up the good work Brad!
post #257 of 956
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Another "handy dandy" use for binder clips. Ingenious!

Can't complain for 5 bucks! I bought a box of thumbtacks first, tried to push one into the wood, no chance that was going to work, would have destroyed my thumbs.

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keep up the good work Brad!

Thanks MJ!
post #258 of 956
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Got started on covering the soffits with fabric (black 16 oz Commando Cloth) this weekend. I started with a Harbor Freight combo brad nailer / narrow crown (1/4") stapler that I borrowed from my neighbor, but after about 6' of soffit, it started jamming, and then lost pressure, couldn't figure out how to fix it.

I have purchased several Harbor Freight air tools over the years. A few were OK, but most didn't last through very many uses. I tried opening up an air ratchet recently after it stopped working and all of the metal parts inside were broken apart.

While I would feel horrible borrowing a neighbor's/friend's tool and breaking it, I wouldn't spend a lot of time thinking it was something you did to cause the tool to fail.

Nick
post #259 of 956
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Yeah, no more Harbor Freight power tool for me - I too have some of their little smaller items that have worked out OK (and if they don't, I'm out $5 or whatever, so disposable).

I made some more progress on the soffit fabric covering the last couple nights - its all covered now, but have some work to do still: trim excess close enough to cover edges with trim, clean up little tight corners and edges; buy paint and nail up trim; glue the top edge of the fabric over the top of the tray edge with contact cement; cut out two holes for access panels, and build and install the access panels (access to junction box, access to rope light outlet).

Its nice to actually have the recessed light trims up for the first time in months! Unfortunately, I realized that I still need 4 socket extensions for the eyeball trims over the screen before I can put those trims up.
post #260 of 956
Pictures...we need pictures!
post #261 of 956
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Pictures...we need pictures!

LOL, I deserved that. I was holding off on taking any pictures until I had some of the messy stuff cleaned up (excess fabric sticking above the tray for example), to get more of a "tada" vibe. I should get that done tonight, and I'll take and post some new pics.
post #262 of 956
what paint is that ceiling Brad?
post #263 of 956
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what paint is that ceiling Brad?

Its called Expresso Beans, from Behr (Home Depot).
post #264 of 956
Personally I prefer the messy pics as it gives us knuckleheads a clearer view of what you are doing so that we can copy....uh....I mean......replicate your work!
post #265 of 956
looking great!
post #266 of 956
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Thanks Mfusick!

No pics yet - took them, but the last remaining operational PC at home is acting wonky, so couldn't upload them. Got the excess fabric in the tray trimmed down, and glued down (contact cement). I know, no pics, so it didn't happen - but it did happen.
post #267 of 956
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Thanks Mfusick!

No pics yet - took them, but the last remaining operational PC at home is acting wonky, so couldn't upload them. Got the excess fabric in the tray trimmed down, and glued down (contact cement). I know, no pics, so it didn't happen - but it did happen.

lol..

We will check them out when you can post. Can't wait to see...
post #268 of 956
Brad, I don't know why it's been so long since I've checked in. Good to see the progress. Looks great! I see lots of things I should have employed in my room.

Looking forward to more discussion of your audio when you start tuning things up!
post #269 of 956
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Thanks Tony - what, you're not subscribed??

I'm looking forward to actually getting the audio end dialed in too - haven't done anything in that regard, since no carpet in yet - BFD just sitting there in the chain flat.
post #270 of 956
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Pics! Here's a few pics of the soffit as of night before last - still a couple places where I need to trim and tuck and such, but its getting close. The uneven shadows in the rope light are because there is still some fabric sticking up on the inside of the tray that I either need to trim off with a utility knife or glue down or both. I wonder if a glue stick would work, or maybe just a bead of white glue - don't want to do the contact cement back there, would be hard to work inside the tray.

I added the eyeball trims on the screen lights last night, but didn't shoot a picture of it.





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