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Refurb HF200 or HFM30

post #1 of 13
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So im debating on which one to get. I already have the refurb HF200 being shipped from tigerdirect.com for like 414. but then i noticed that the newer model by canon is hfm300 which brand new cost 550 and 600 for the hfm30 (im thinking of going for the hfm30 for its image stabilization).

but what do you guys recommend?

currently amazon has the hf200 brand new for like $700 but the hfm30 for 600 or so. not sure if that's mainly for discount or if the hfm30/300 is lacking in quality compared to hf200.

i personally had a canon digital camera before and the quality of the pictures i obtained from that camera have been amazing and from the reviews i am reading for canon camcorders it seems that the quality is there on the camcorder line.

so can you guys give me a good suggestion.

i am going to be using this to shoot sermons in a low-light area (well there is light but its all incandescent, sparse, and shooting from a distance) as well as traveling through costa rica.

def. need a mic input though.
post #2 of 13
This years M30 and M300 is very close the last years HF20 an HF200, as far as I know the CMOS sensors are the same. The two areas though that have seen improvement are stabilization and a little bit of a boost in low light. The fact that Amazon has the HF200 for $799 is completely freaking hilarious. They where much lower than that 3 months ago.
post #3 of 13
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so u would recommend to get the newer one then right?
post #4 of 13
From what I'm seeing, the HF200 on Amazon is from a third party seller. Amazon does not control those prices.
post #5 of 13
$799 USD for an HF200? Now that's a monumental joke! The Staples near my place is selling it for under $650 Canadian!

Sites like J&R and B&H are now selling the M300 for $550. But with shipping and the exchange rate, that price will easily jump to the same price as the HF200 mentioned above. But at least you'd get an updated camcorder.

Keep an eye out for an HF11. Apparently, that's still the king of the current Canon HD SDHC camcorder line-up.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
how about a hfs10. is that better than the m31?

btw is hf11 better than the m31? i like the powered ois but ill go for whichever camera has the best quality + best stabilization.

or should i stick with getting a m31?
post #7 of 13
Paying for all that internal memory makes no sense, since you can get memory sticks with the same capacity for less than half the price difference. So that would mean go with the M300 or HFS100. B&H has a last years model reburbished HFS100 for $588. The HF200 and M300 have 1/4 inch sensors while the HFS100 and HFS200 have 1/2 inch.
post #8 of 13
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Paying for all that internal memory makes no sense, since you can get memory sticks with the same capacity for less than half the price difference.

Can you share what prices you see that is cheaper to go the no internal memroy route for a 32 Gig SDHC card? I am pretty sure it's at least the same or higher in price than if you were to buy the 32 Gig internal memory unit. No?
post #9 of 13
At amazon.com the M300 is $534, while the M31 with 32GB internal memory is $698. You could get a M300 and a 32GB Kinsington SD card for $609. And the SD card is more convinent because you can pull it out and put it in a card reader. With Canon cams they make you plug the cam into a power outlet if you use a usb cable transfer.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by Cdy291 View Post

At amazon.com the M300 is $534, while the M31 with 32GB internal memory is $698. You could get a M300 and a 32GB Kinsington SD card for $609. And the SD card is more convinent because you can pull it out and put it in a card reader. With Canon cams they make you plug the cam into a power outlet if you use a usb cable transfer.

Thanks for sharing the pricing. Guess it's a little different in the US. By the way, your Canon remark about needing to plug the cam into a power outlet for USB transfer is incorrect, at least for the HFM series.
post #11 of 13
Maybe they are doing it different now for the 2010 stuff, but last year everything they made had to be pluged in.
post #12 of 13
Thread Starter 
i went and got the hfs100 because you brought up a good point about sensors.

though i didnt realize that it was only 10x oh well i guess i could always add lenses.

anyway i got this for about 550 and another 100 for square-trade 2 year warranty.
in addition since i got it off of ebay the auction had a boom mic (on-board mics suck because of wind so i knew that i needed this) and a hood.

ebay has cashback and bing 8% so i was able to score good amoutn of money back

thanks for all your help guys.
post #13 of 13
Don't worry too much about the 10X. At 15X, you almost need a tripod to keep the camera steady.
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