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post #121 of 4573
5/25/10 at 6:33am
DVDFab created it. I only made:

Blu Ray>New Moon

Inside of "New Moon", DVDFab created everything else (MainMovie, NEW_MOON, etc). When I rip another I'll just move the movie titled folder (Dark_Knight) up to the Blu-ray folder and delete MainMovie folder and see how that works.
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post #122 of 4573
5/25/10 at 6:36am
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Ok, i don`t know why DVDFab does that, but the structure should be like me & bryansj said, and like in my screenshot. And if that doesn`t work see that 3 movies solution bryansj explained ( i never knew about that limitation)

Tip : Also, remove the _ between the letters in a movie folder name. Again, has nothing to do with playback, but with metadata retrieval.

Damn DVDFab.
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post #123 of 4573
5/25/10 at 6:41am
DVDFab is set up to create MainMovie and FullMovie (and others I guess). You would just make a folder called D:\\Ripped and tell DVDFab to dump movies there. You'll go about your ripping and it will create D:\\Ripped\\MainMovie\\Star_Trek and D:\\Ripped\\MainMovie\\New_Moon. The names are based on the disc id. There is no need to keep renaming or creating folders for the rips, just a single folder. When finished move your folders out of MainMovie to your Blu-ray folder and clean up the name.
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post #124 of 4573
5/25/10 at 6:45am
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

(Just now saw the edit above... Interesting folder naming for Memento ... edit again )

Lulz Well, i don`t have all my movies from the store. The good & best ones are from the store, the old (hard to find on BD, atleast were i live) and "medium ones" ( 5-6.5 IMDB ) usually, from the "other" store
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post #125 of 4573
5/25/10 at 6:50am
I always remove the underscores from titles that I do. That was DVDFabs labeling method. As for the categories, I just did that for organization purposes. But I did put a blu-ray into the the DVD folder and it would not show up in media browser. I don't remember if I had the DVDFab folder or the renamed "stream" file. I'll try it again tonight. I always thought everyone separated their files like this but I guess not.

These are still just test that I'm doing to learn about all of this stuff. I still haven't decided on what type of external media server I'll go with: DIY or prebuilt. The 2tb drive should arrive tomorrow but that will replace the 1tb storage drive for recording TV shows. For a media server I would like 8-10tb of storage. That should hold me for a while as I build a collection or movies and music.
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post #126 of 4573
5/25/10 at 7:18am
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Well, i used to that too, but like bryansj said Media browser has a plugin called Media Info that tells you what the media inofrmation (the most important plugins for MB are explained in my guide under the Media Browser section). For Blu Ray structures, it shows a Blu Ray logo. For single mkv/m2ts/ts it shows you the entire info, resolution/bitrate/audio codec etc. . That way you know which is which. Also, there is a "Show HD overlay" option in the MB settings, which shows you a "HD" sticker over the movie poster (for some reason, this only works for mkv/m2ts/ts stanalone files, not for BD folders, maybe it`s a limitation)
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post #127 of 4573
5/25/10 at 7:22am
I think I downloaded a few plugins but I'll look into it some more. Another reason I had things separated was because I use SageTV a lot. But I'm thinking of moving to 7MC strictly for the next TV season so I figured that I would try to do everything in it for a change. Reorganizing my folders is no problem. I'll just have to adjust the paths on the apps.
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post #128 of 4573
5/25/10 at 7:31am
Like I said above, you don't need to move your folders. In MediaBrowser configuration utility just create a catagory called Movies and in that map the Blu-ray folder, then click on Movies again and add the DVD folder. Then delete the Blu-ray and DVD catagories.
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post #129 of 4573
5/25/10 at 7:48am
Got it.
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post #130 of 4573
5/25/10 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by yuxmyyg View Post

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Originally Posted by GreenEyez
Media Control configuration :
Download link

Install the software. During the instalation, on the Additional Tasks menu, uncheck "Media Control Entries", all of them. Next you will be prompted with a configuration menu

Remote control & keyboard tab
-> Assign Audio/Subtitles page to your prefferd button (Blue button for ex)
-> Remove the rest of the entries and click "Commit Changes"


Notifications / Tricks tab
-> enable Resume Movie
-> disable "Show the streams menu
-> Make sure "Use Media State Aggregation", "Enable Media Experience" and "Enable Advanced Features" are all enabled and the click Commit Changes

FFdshow configuration
-> click "Apply Minimal config" then commit changes again.

Result : now when you press the blue button (or whatever button you asigned) you will get a top-down menu with the list of subtitles/audio streams available and select the one/ones you like.

Will add this to the main guide later, when i get back from work.

It is a great guide. I installed Windows 7 (X64) and used part 1.2 to install codecs. Everything is fine except one glitches which I could not change the multiple sound tracks or multiple subtiles. I will try Media Control tonigt..

Hi GreenEyez and umdivx, I installed Shark007 codecs onto Windows 7 (X64)based on instructions from GreenEyez's section 1.2 and umdivx's guide http://www.mnmaven.com/2010/03/20/co...list-approach/. But I could not figure out how to show subtitles and change audio tracks for mkv files. I tried different configurations.

1. I tried to change Config-> subtitle control from FFDshow/Embedded to DirectVobSub, Windows Media player could play mkv files with subtitles, Windows Media Center could play mkv, but could not show subtitles.I did not know why because I did not install DirectVobSub ever before.

2. I tried to installed Media Control based on instructions above. But Media Control could not control anything including subtitles/audio tracks. I though it might be " Use MPC-HC Codec/Do not use FFDshow" in H264 Tab Shark007 configuration before. Media Control could not communicate with MPC-HC Codec for mkv H264. I changed to "use FFDshow" instead of MPC-HC Codec, Media Control could control Windows Media player, not Windows Media Center, weired.

3. I still tried several changes with no luck.

Cn you review your instructions again to let Shark 007, Media Browser and Media control work together for mkv H264 seamlessly ?
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post #131 of 4573
5/25/10 at 8:52am
I got the network while at home to work, now I just need to get it to work when I'm not at home.
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post #132 of 4573
5/25/10 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by yuxmyyg View Post

Hi GreenEyez and umdivx, I installed Shark007 codecs onto Windows 7 (X64)based on instructions from GreenEyez's section 1.2 and umdivx's guide http://www.mnmaven.com/2010/03/20/co...list-approach/. But I could not figure out how to show subtitles and change audio tracks for mkv files. I tried different configurations.

1. I tried to change Config-> subtitle control from FFDshow/Embedded to DirectVobSub, Windows Media player could play mkv files with subtitles, Windows Media Center could play mkv, but could not show subtitles.I did not know why because I did not install DirectVobSub ever before.

2. I tried to installed Media Control based on instructions above. But Media Control could not control anything including subtitles/audio tracks. I though it might be " Use MPC-HC Codec/Do not use FFDshow" in H264 Tab Shark007 configuration before. Media Control could not communicate with MPC-HC Codec for mkv H264. I changed to "use FFDshow" instead of MPC-HC Codec, Media Control could control Windows Media player, not Windows Media Center, weired.

3. I still tried several changes with no luck.

Cn you review your instructions again to let Shark 007, Media Browser and Media control work together for mkv H264 seamlessly ?

Strange, it worked for me but i had ffdshow installed separatly on my main machine (not shark`s pack), will look into it. The strange thing is that you don`t need to have ffdshow actually decode the video stream for Media Control to work, so changing the decoder from MPC to ffdshow should have no effect.

Anyway, i`ll test it in a couple of hours, after i waht The Wolfman, and i`ll post what i will find out.
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post #133 of 4573
5/25/10 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by yuxmyyg View Post

Hi GreenEyez and umdivx, I installed Shark007 codecs onto Windows 7 (X64)based on instructions from GreenEyez's section 1.2 and umdivx's guide http://www.mnmaven.com/2010/03/20/co...list-approach/. But I could not figure out how to show subtitles and change audio tracks for mkv files. I tried different configurations.

1. I tried to change Config-> subtitle control from FFDshow/Embedded to DirectVobSub, Windows Media player could play mkv files with subtitles, Windows Media Center could play mkv, but could not show subtitles.I did not know why because I did not install DirectVobSub ever before.

2. I tried to installed Media Control based on instructions above. But Media Control could not control anything including subtitles/audio tracks. I though it might be " Use MPC-HC Codec/Do not use FFDshow" in H264 Tab Shark007 configuration before. Media Control could not communicate with MPC-HC Codec for mkv H264. I changed to "use FFDshow" instead of MPC-HC Codec, Media Control could control Windows Media player, not Windows Media Center, weired.

3. I still tried several changes with no luck.

Cn you review your instructions again to let Shark 007, Media Browser and Media control work together for mkv H264 seamlessly ?

Ok, figured it out. You need to select ffdshow as the decoder in the Shark007 in the H264 Tab, in both the "Use ffdshow codec" and "H264 codec in directshow filters". (I had VobSub working alongside the MPC-HC video decoder, that`s why it was working for me).

For subtitle control, ffdshow embedded should be selected, as stated in the guide (Config Tab).

Now in Media Control map the Context Menu to the Blue (or whatever button you want from the list), as in Screenshot nr 1. Remove the Subtitle/Audio page entry that i previously told you to enter (it`s somewhat slower to show up than the context menu, that`s why)

On the Context Menu Tab deselect Video Presets and Post-Processing.

Now when you press the Blue (or whatever button you selected) a menu like the one in Screenshot 2 should apear.
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post #134 of 4573
5/25/10 at 1:56pm
Thanks, I will try tonight. By the way, "subtitle control, ffdshow embedded should be selected " means it works for subtitle embedded inside mkv files ? What about multiple external srt files ?
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post #135 of 4573
5/25/10 at 2:40pm
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2 of the movies i tested had external subs and they showed up in the Subtitle files submenu no matter what option was selected, embedded or external.
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post #136 of 4573
5/25/10 at 3:34pm
Awesome job Greeneyez, definitely a must read for the HTPC user
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post #137 of 4573
5/25/10 at 4:20pm
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Thanks dbone, a part of the guide was made from your guides @ mediasmartserver. Next up i`m going to complete it with a ripping tutorial with Clown_BD and AnotherEAC3toGUI (for mkv), for the latter i`m going to use some pointers from your guide here.

Edit : Added the MediaControl part to the playback guide and separated the Blu Ray and mkv/m2ts/ts parts for easier reading. Next up is the ripping guide, hope to finish it tomorrow morning.
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post #138 of 4573
5/25/10 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Thanks dbone, a part of the guide was made from your guides @ mediasmartserver. Next up i`m going to complete it with a ripping tutorial with Clown_BD and AnotherEAC3toGUI (for mkv), for the latter i`m going to use some pointers from your guide here.

Cool. If you need some info on Clown_BD as well here is the wiki I wrote.

One thing I am in the process of writing is documenting how to set up/use 3rd party filters with MPC HC (i.e if you are using a core i3/i5 MPC is not optimized for so 3rd party filters are better used such as Arcsoft and PDVD). I also need to attempt/document setting up bitstreaming with SageTV, and the possibly XBMC and MediaPortal (of course this part is not WMC related )
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post #139 of 4573
5/26/10 at 1:50am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Cool. If you need some info on Clown_BD as well here is the wiki I wrote.

One thing I am in the process of writing is documenting how to set up/use 3rd party filters with MPC HC (i.e if you are using a core i3/i5 MPC is not optimized for so 3rd party filters are better used such as Arcsoft and PDVD). I also need to attempt/document setting up bitstreaming with SageTV, and the possibly XBMC and MediaPortal (of course this part is not WMC related )

Thanks for the info, i`m going to be taking some pointers from that to. Regarding MPC-HC & i3/5, i didn`t know that there were problems with the internal H.264/VC-1 decoder, when you finish that tutorial, don`t forget to leave a message, i`m going to add it to this guide so i3/5 Intel HD users won`t have problems.

I`m going to do a XMBC guide myself in the following weeks, maybe will cross guides and notes when we`re finished.

Thanks again.
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post #140 of 4573
5/26/10 at 6:31am
Well, I ripped a 3rd BR and got the folders all setup and MB will now recognize each BR movie but won't play them. Told me that the path didn't exist. I have to get them to play through MPC-HC correctly now. I chose it as the external player in the MB config box so I no longer get the error message. MPC opens but the movie won't play automatically. I'll go over the info in the beginning of the thread and get that all setup next.
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post #141 of 4573
5/26/10 at 6:35am
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Well, I ripped a 3rd BR and got the folders all setup and MB will now recognize each BR movie but won't play them. Told me that the path didn't exist. I have to get them to play through MPC-HC correctly now. I chose it as the external player in the MB config box so I no longer get the error message. MPC opens but the movie won't play automatically. I'll go over the info in the beginning of the thread and get that all setup next.

Is it a Blu Ray Folder rip or did you rip it into mkv or other?
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post #142 of 4573
5/26/10 at 6:56am
Blu-ray folder. I was just going to use the streams but I don't think that MB will play them. 7MC will, but not sure about MB. I took a few screenshots but forgot to transfer them to my laptop to upload and post while I'm here at work.
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post #143 of 4573
5/26/10 at 6:58am
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Blu-ray folder. I was just going to use the streams but I don't think that MB will play them. 7MC will, but not sure about MB. I took a few screenshots but forgot to transfer them to my laptop to upload and post while I'm here at work.

I don't think MPC HC can auto play a Blu Ray folder which is what you are seeing (you have to manually navigate in MPC). Otherwise, you need to use either PDVD or TMT to play a Blu Ray folder, the native WMC player cannot play back Blu Ray folders.
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post #144 of 4573
5/26/10 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

I installed Remote Potato and everytime I start it keeps saying "starting". :\\

i'm assuming you mean mpc-hc is stuck on the starting screen? if so, i had this issue to.

i had to fix my parameters, i had removed the {0} from it. once i put it back, it worked.
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post #145 of 4573
5/26/10 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Ok, figured it out. You need to select ffdshow as the decoder in the Shark007 in the H264 Tab, in both the "Use ffdshow codec" and "H264 codec in directshow filters". (I had VobSub working alongside the MPC-HC video decoder, that`s why it was working for me).

For subtitle control, ffdshow embedded should be selected, as stated in the guide (Config Tab).

Now in Media Control map the Context Menu to the Blue (or whatever button you want from the list), as in Screenshot nr 1. Remove the Subtitle/Audio page entry that i previously told you to enter (it`s somewhat slower to show up than the context menu, that`s why)

On the Context Menu Tab deselect Video Presets and Post-Processing.

Now when you press the Blue (or whatever button you selected) a menu like the one in Screenshot 2 should apear.

Hi, GreenEyez, I tried again last night. Based on above, I got Context Menu to show up in Windows Media Center by pressing B, but not in Windows Media Player. Even worse, when I pressed "Switch Audio Stream" or "Switch Subtitles". The Windows Media Center creashed and stopped working.
Any ideas?
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post #146 of 4573
5/26/10 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I don't think MPC HC can auto play a Blu Ray folder which is what you are seeing (you have to manually navigate in MPC). Otherwise, you need to use either PDVD or TMT to play a Blu Ray folder, the native WMC player cannot play back Blu Ray folders.

PDVD won't play the BR folders but that's ok. I'll just take the time to setup MPC-HC later. I would just play the streams in 7MC but I like having the meta info and would like to use MB. I'll get it together. The TV season is just ending so I have all summer to get it right.
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post #147 of 4573
5/26/10 at 9:13am
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PDVD won't play the BR folders but that's ok. I'll just take the time to setup MPC-HC later. I would just play the streams in 7MC but I like having the meta info and would like to use MB. I'll get it together. The TV season is just ending so I have all summer to get it right.

One option as long as you only want the main movie is just to throw all your blu rays into mkv (this is what I do). You can then use Media Browser and get all the nice fanart/coverart
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post #148 of 4573
5/26/10 at 9:38am
I am just getting my HTPC set up and have been reading and trying to understand how to get everything going.

I would like to use 7MC for everything if possible. Right now I just have a bunch of movies that I got from a friend but they are all in avi and mp4 format. What format do I need the movies in so it will bring up all the info through 7MC with synopsis, coverart etc? I already downloaded media browser, but when viewing the movies in 7MC they are all just colored tiles with the title.

How can I get it to look like this? http://www.redmondpie.com/wp-content...ediaCenter.png

Do I need to convert the files to something else besides avi or mp4?

I want to start ripping the DVDs I have as well, what is a good easy to use program to do that? Free would be nice as well.

Thanks for the help
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post #149 of 4573
5/26/10 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by mikereno1 View Post

I am just getting my HTPC set up and have been reading and trying to understand how to get everything going.

I would like to use 7MC for everything if possible. Right now I just have a bunch of movies that I got from a friend but they are all in avi and mp4 format. What format do I need the movies in so it will bring up all the info through 7MC with synopsis, coverart etc? I already downloaded media browser, but when viewing the movies in 7MC they are all just colored tiles with the title.

How can I get it to look like this? http://www.redmondpie.com/wp-content...ediaCenter.png

Do I need to convert the files to something else besides avi or mp4?

I want to start ripping the DVDs I have as well, what is a good easy to use program to do that? Free would be nice as well.

Thanks for the help

You can have any format you want (avi, mp4, etc...). I would recommend you use a plugin such as MediaBrowser or MyMovies for W7MC which will give you multiple views along with coverart/fanart.
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post #150 of 4573
5/26/10 at 9:45am
I already have media browser installed, but no cover art or anything comes up
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