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Originally Posted by rexb610 View Post

I used the 'AutoRipnCompress' one which was on the guide early on before GreenEyez added the new blu-ray rip guide. I just totally looked the other way when MKV failed me the first time and learned 'folder structure' worked fine.

What other advantages does MKV have over ripping to "folder structure"? Hopefully this weekend i'll try to experiment again. I do like TMT3 over MPC-HC though.

My HTPC is working and running smoothly for a long time now that i need to tweak something again and most of the time end up breaking something..ha ha! Which reminds me i need to revisit the 'internal 7MC' player with HD audio, last time i tried it, it messed my system up.

As Damian said, there are a couple of advantages. Playback for MKV containers is free (MPC-HC or the internal 7MC player are both free) , and you can add external subtitles downloaded from teh internets, and change the dimension + position of those subs (this is crucial to me since i have a lot of movies with no Romanian subtitles, and my GF doesn`t understand english at the same level that i do, and most of them (the BR disks) don`t come with Romanian subs).
Also a movie stored in MKV takes up a little less space than one in a M2TS container (1GB for 20GB movie or so)

But since you already have TMT3 and BR folders work fine for you and you don`t need those extra subtitle features, you can stick to BR folders.

Also, if you have Win7 on your main computer you can experiment there instead of the HTPC.
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Yes, it should. What OS are you running, 32bit or 64bit ?

i am running win 7 64bit, and i downloaded 64bit versions of mpc-hc and ffdshow. any way to confirm that i have 64bit versions for mpc and ffdshow?
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This may be a little off topic but has anyone found a w7 shell that is good. I recently found out that getting w7 to remember each window setting is not part the windows thing any longer (a major drag btw). THIS is a list of what they took out since vista in case anyone wants to take a look. So far I have not appreciated the w7 look and feel the way that those that make the decisions would like (probably would not use it except for this application).
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

i am running win 7 64bit, and i downloaded 64bit versions of mpc-hc and ffdshow. any way to confirm that i have 64bit versions for mpc and ffdshow?

I may have this wrong, but I think you need to install the reg and 64 bit versions of the codecs.
post #1205 of 4573
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Now that being said, if Blu Ray folders work for you there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just didn't want to pay for 3rd party software (i.e. TMT and PDVD) and the free player (MPH HC) I don't find to be an optimal player for BR Folders.

Got it...

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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Also a movie stored in MKV takes up a little less space than one in a M2TS container (1GB for 20GB movie or so)

But since you already have TMT3 and BR folders work fine for you and you don`t need those extra subtitle features, you can stick to BR folders.

did you mean?

1GB of MKV = 20GB M2TS? or

19 GB MKV (1GB less) = 20 GB M2TS
post #1206 of 4573
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20GB M2TS = 19GB MKV . Dbone did a more elaborate test on his site, maybe he will post a link when he gets around.

smokarz - if the installer file says x64 in the file name, you have x64 versions. Make sure you have set ffdshow audio decoder to prefferd in the MPC-HC External player tab (very important, or else MPC will use it`s own decoders)
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

smokarz - if the installer file says x64 in the file name, you have x64 versions. Make sure you have set ffdshow audio decoder to prefferd in the MPC-HC External player tab (very important, or else MPC will use it`s own decoders)

i did add ffdshow audio codec as external filter and clicked preferred, according to the guide.

something is strange.
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

20GB M2TS = 19GB MKV . Dbone did a more elaborate test on his site, maybe he will post a link when he gets around.

smokarz - if the installer file says x64 in the file name, you have x64 versions. Make sure you have set ffdshow audio decoder to prefferd in the MPC-HC External player tab (very important, or else MPC will use it`s own decoders)

Here is the post - Is Your Container Bigger Than Mine?. I got about a 1GB savings in file size with an mkv over an m2ts
post #1209 of 4573
So close to video and audio working perfectly. Though my last issue is playing back mkv files with HD audio but running as a DD or DTS stream. I am trying to pass through the DD or DTS portion and have that checked in ffdshow. Though it plays no sound the the DD or DTS light goes on and off. If I play a mkv with just a DD or DTS it plays fine bitstreaming. If I uncheck all bitstreaming and have LPCM mode it works fine but would like to play the DD or DTS portion of the HD audio stream. Is there a setting I don't have right in ffdshow?
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I am using the guide: Media Player Classic - Home Cinema configuration :

External Filters tab
-> Add ffdshow audio decoder to the list and check "preferred"

I am ripping to mkv with eac3to and mkvmerge.

I am getting the low audio volume problem and have read enough to know that this is an audio renderer problem. Past recommended solutions I found by searching have rested with reclock, MPC-HC audio in exclusive mode or with madflac.

Can Greeneyez, Renethx or dbone1026 give me instructions to fix the low audio volume problem.
post #1211 of 4573
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Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

I am using the guide: Media Player Classic - Home Cinema configuration :

External Filters tab
-> Add ffdshow audio decoder to the list and check "preferred"

I am ripping to mkv with eac3to and mkvmerge.

I am getting the low audio volume problem and have read enough to know that this is an audio renderer problem. Past recommended solutions I found by searching have rested with reclock, MPC-HC audio in exclusive mode or with madflac.

Can Greeneyez, Renethx or dbone1026 give me instructions to fix the low audio volume problem.

If it with FLAC/LPCM? If so you should use Reclock

Here is a guide on setting up:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152520
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

If it with FLAC/LPCM? If so you should use Reclock

Here is a guide on setting up:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152520

I appreciate the response. I am using Win 7 32bit, creating FLAC, sending LPCM over HDMI to a Yamaha HTR 6060 and using the realtek drivers with an ATI 4670. My processor is CPU INTEL|C2D E7400 2.8G 775

Since my setup is substantially different than your example I wanted to check back with you before following your recommendations.
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Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

I appreciate the response. I am using Win 7, creating FLAC, sending LPCM over HDMI to a Yamaha HTR 6060 and using the realtek drivers with an ATI 4670. My processor is CPU INTEL|C2D E7400 2.8G 775

Since my setup is substantially different than your example I wanted to check back with you before following your recommendations.

I would think you would want to follow the same steps as that guide outlines, which should get ffdshow audio sending through FLAC/LPCM in WASAPI exclusive mode via Reclock. I think Reclock is x32 (not sure if you are using x32 or x64)
post #1214 of 4573
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I would think you would want to follow the same steps as that guide outlines, which should get ffdshow audio sending through FLAC/LPCM in WASAPI exclusive mode via Reclock. I think Reclock is x32 (not sure if you are using x32 or x64)

Yes, 32bit.

I will reread your instructions until I am comfortable with your methods. Then I will decide whether to continue turning up the volume on my AVR or make all your suggested changes.

Thanks for your response and instructions.
post #1215 of 4573
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Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

Yes, 32bit.

I will reread your instructions until I am comfortable with your methods. Then I will decide whether to continue turning up the volume on my AVR or make all your suggested changes.

Thanks for your response and instructions.

I should mention it is not my method (in case it doesn't work )

Note though that if you don't like you can easily uninstall Reclock without affecting your system. Many people consider Reclock a must for FLAC/LPCM
post #1216 of 4573
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I should mention it is not my method (in case it doesn't work )

Note though that if you don't like you can easily uninstall Reclock without affecting your system. Many people consider Reclock a must for FLAC/LPCM

Currently, 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 audio seem to going to the correct speakers in an acceptable proportion. Audio and video are synchronized. If I play a blu-ray with PowerDVD I get audio that seems about the same as flac lpcm with realtek and MPC-HC.

Other than audio volume I don't know what reclock would do for me.

I tend to be cautious about adding programs and codecs. Were there only an undo button.

Would setting a restore point and restoring if I don't like the results return everything to where it is now?
post #1217 of 4573
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Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

Currently, 5.1, 6.1 and 7.1 audio seem to going to the correct speakers in an acceptable proportion. Audio and video are synchronized. If I play a blu-ray with PowerDVD I get audio that seems about the same as flac lpcm with realtek and MPC-HC.

Other than audio volume I don't know what reclock would do for me.

I tend to be cautious about adding programs and codecs. Were there only an undo button.

Would setting a restore point and restoring if I don't like the results return everything to where it is now?

It is always good to have a restore point to go back to. I use WHS, so my HTPCs get backed up nightly which I can revert to easily in case something goes screwy
post #1218 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post


jimjimmyjones85 - have you tried opening them with the standalone TMT3 app ? regardin the foldr structure, your ripping softwre should output the Video_TS folder with the proper structure inside iit (that`s why i told you to use DVDFab, since i know that works well). basically you should have something like this :

D:\\Movies\\Gladiator (2000)\\Video_TS
[/b]

ok, I will try and make sure they are like that.


Any ideas why my ISO's won't play
post #1219 of 4573
Can anyone help me please, when i use Arcsoft total as external player or HCmedia player the both open in new 720p window, how can i get them to open in 1080p window thanks.
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This MEI driver thing has got me a little confused. I thought I had it installed from a windows update I did after my w7 install. I noticed on my "Programs and Features" and it reported "Intel Management Engine and Components" it's size is 20.4 MB and the version is 6.0.0.1179. I took a link from a thread here to the MEI Page. I noticed that the version of the MEI driver there was 6.1.0.1042. So I d/l'd it and installed it. It call for a reboot and I did. However my "Programs and Features" still reports the version is 6.0.0.1179. I am not sure if this is a bad thing, it does not matter, or that these two items are not related. Is there something somewhere that explains this thing and what it does? On the MEI page it says something about thermal management.

I have read here in one of the threads that if one has this driver installed that Reclock is no longer needed to pass untouched audio streams to a AVR. Does anyone know if this is in fact true? I have built another HD HTPC (listed below) and I have a lot of mkvs with flac audio made from the HD audio from MY ripped BR disks. I am looking to pass this audio untouched to my AVR as well as the new ones I make, which may contained the original audio form the disk or FLAC (have not decided yet). I plan on using This Guide (thanks dbone1026) and omit the Reclock steps. I posted in Rica's thread asking if this is advisable but the last post there is dated May 2010 so I am not sure how soon he will see it to comemnt.


i3 530 G0 CPU
Saphire HD 5670
G.Skill DDR3 1600
ASRock H55M/USB3 rev 1.02
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB
PC Pwr & Cooling Silencer Mk II 500w

W7 ultimate
Intel IME
DirectX Runtime
TMT3 Platinum .180
post #1221 of 4573
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Originally Posted by Lostclusters View Post


I have read here in one of the threads that if one has this driver installed that Reclock is no longer needed to pass untouched audio streams to a AVR. Does anyone know if this is in fact true?

My understanding is that if you don't use Reclock Windows Mixer will gets its hands on your FLAC/LPCM tracks. The only way to send the tracks untouched is through WASAPI exclusive which is what you would use Reclock for. I have not read anything that says this is no longer true
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

My understanding is that if you don't use Reclock Windows Mixer will gets its hands on your FLAC/LPCM tracks. The only way to send the tracks untouched is through WASAPI exclusive which is what you would use Reclock for. I have not read anything that says this is no longer true

I think this is a Clarkdale only thing. This may not apply to the ATI 5xxx.
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So far all I have done is install the software shown above down to TMT. Just to test I put a BR disk in it and it played including lighting up DTS-HD MSTR on my AVR. Am I transferring audio from PC to AVR untouched?
post #1224 of 4573
Thread Starter 
Yes, you have untouched audio, that`s what bitstreaming is .

Announcement : I`ll be starting my own website (dedicated to HTPC news, hardware + software & BluRay Movie Reviews done by me) + my own forum (HomeTheaterHTPC), featuring HTPC hardware, Media Servers (dbone, interested ?, i could use a moderator/reviewer for that section since i`m out of touch with the part of the HT game ?) and Blu Ray Movie reviews (from me & the users).

Ofc, this guide will remain here as well, and so will "tech support", just the new guides for XBMC & (if i find somebody who knows his way around Media portal) MP will be there. And the codec pack i`ll be working on will be featured on the site&forum , with support here and there.
The forum is mostly done, just need to skin it and a few tweaks, so it will be up in ~6-7 days, when i get back from Greece i`ll finish it. The site probably in 12 days and the codec pack in 1 month or so.
post #1225 of 4573
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Originally Posted by Lostclusters View Post

I think this is a Clarkdale only thing. This may not apply to the ATI 5xxx.

The ATI 5xxx guys are doing this as well (before I got a Clarkdale I had two 5670s and that is where I first read about Reclock). You can ask on the 5xxx thread to confirm. I should mention when I talk about reclock I am talking purely about using MPC HC, not the commercial players like PDVD and TMT
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

The ATI 5xxx guys are doing this as well (before I got a Clarkdale I had two 5670s and that is where I first read about Reclock). You can ask on the 5xxx thread to confirm. I should mention when I talk about reclock I am talking purely about using MPC HC, not the commercial players like PDVD and TMT


I was referring to the MEI driver. Sorry for the confusion/lack of clarity. Thanks for you help.
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Tired of looking at 0:00 when playing FLAC audio files in 7MC? The newest Shark007 Codec Pack (V260) fixes the problem!
See my post on TGB
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/9...20.aspx#469020
post #1228 of 4573
minor dumb things..anyone to care to help me out?

1) Kylo browser icon not showing in 7MC start menu. It is in the extras library by default but i want it in the main start menu of 7MC. Media Center Studio start menu shows it's there, removed and re-added, saved start menu and re-applied and still won't show..driving me crazy. again small details..

2) Missing 7MC start-up sound. I think this is in a way good but want to be able to set it on and off and not all of sudden went away. I already played with 7MC settings in start-up options sound i think and still no sound.

3) MPC-HC playback on M2TS subtitle, first time i've tried it, subtitles show but is off from the actual dialogues.
post #1229 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

SWAP Tab
-> Select "Use FFdshow DXVA for WVC1 instead of Microsoft"

On WMP12, this step makes the video of my MKV file of Ip Man freeze (though the audio keeps going). When I choose "use ffdshow" (sans DXVA) it plays like normal.
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Is it possible to get dts bitstreaming to work in mkvs using the setup guide's mpc-hc/ffdshow settings? Right now it flakes in and out on the receiver with no sound. I read the prior discussion and it appears to be a problem with a splitter?

Also, to play flac audio in mkv movies using mpc-hc/ffdshow is madflac required? right now the file just hangs in mpc-hc/ffdshow.
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