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Update : I will be offering that remote tech support. I player around with various remote desktop clients and setttled for TeamViewer, since it`s the easiest to use on the end-user part. Install and then it generates an unique ID + pass, from which i can connect fast to the machine.

The donation for remote tech support and Windows Media Center config (everything in the guide + custom settings for the user, themes bla bla) is 10$ (paypal), for the moment (probably will be 15$ but for starters 10$). Money Back if it doesn`t work out, ofcourse.

I`m also updating the software package in an hour (depends on the upload speed). This time there will be 2, 1 for x86 and one for x64. Smaller download this way.

After i`m finished i`ll create a yahoo + msn account(s) (i presume those are what most people use for IM) for contacting about support.
post #1532 of 4573
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Originally Posted by jimjimmyjones85 View Post

My sound sounds so low.

Can someone verify the shark code settings I should have ?

If I record DTS will the computer not pass this through ?:

What do you mean by "record DTS" ? TV recording via your TV tuner ?
post #1533 of 4573
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Originally Posted by izoard View Post

Yes: It can be done or
Yes: you are SOL

Thanks

Sorry, I didn't offer any help. I'm kinda mad at M$ when it comes to this topic!

There is a discussion over at the Green Button Forum about this...
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/8...69.aspx#452269

There is a $28 gadget at Monoprice that has optical in and L+R analog out...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
This will work for music, but not Dolby or DTS.
post #1534 of 4573
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Update : The XBMC guide is almost finished, will probably be up tomorrow. It will be based on XBMC DS Player Rev3 1520 + ffdshow for HD bitstreaming and XBMC Dharma Beta 1 for those who have an older DTS/DD capable receiver (since i have found Dharma Beta 1 to be more bug-free than older builds, but like all XBMC builds without DS Player it can`t use ffdshow to bitstream unless you use MPC-HC as an external player)
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Originally Posted by thewarm View Post

Sorry, I didn't offer any help. I'm kinda mad at M$ when it comes to this topic!

There is a discussion over at the Green Button Forum about this...
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/8...69.aspx#452269

There is a $28 gadget at Monoprice that has optical in and L+R analog out...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
This will work for music, but not Dolby or DTS.

Thanks for the link to TGB, I haven't asked over there yet.

Again, I can play my Main Zone and Zone 2 simultaneously with a SPDIF connection, but lose HD audio (DTS-HD and TrueHD over HDMI only).

But, it does seem like I may have a work around here.

Thanks again.
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@GreenEyez/dbone:
Guys, sorry for the late response back as I was on business travel (please refer to my issues on page 48 of this thread). I can get bitstreaming to work fine via TMT3, and successfully playback Blu-Ray discs with DTS-HD MA lighting up my pre/pro. Tried switching from ffdshow dxva on H.264 tab etc to MPC-HC, with the same results for the random MKV WMC/MB crashing...Reading the replies from that point to here, I notice someone having issues with DXVA...possibility on some of my movie files perhaps? Any other ideas/thoughts other than trying straight up ffdshow sw decode? FYI: Will post screenies of MediaInfo results from problematic files tonight, but comparing working files to the non working files with MediaInfo, did not shed any light for me. As always, thank in advance!
post #1537 of 4573
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Yes, try switching to ffdshow software decoder. The reason behind this is because you said they work fine with VLC, which does not support DXVA (well, the latest builds do but it`s not on by default). This way we can diagnose if it`s a DXVA/driver issue. Do this first.
post #1538 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Yes, try switching to ffdshow software decoder. The reason behind this is because you said they work fine with VLC, which does not support DXVA (well, the latest builds do but it`s not on by default). This way we can diagnose if it`s a DXVA/driver issue. Do this first.

Will do. Pardon the n00bness but I just tick the FFDShow decode in the H.264 tab as well as the Swap tabs for WVC1 correct?
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Yup
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Haha! Gracias ! Will post results later tonight along with MediaInfo/GraphEdit screenies...
post #1541 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Update : I will be offering that remote tech support. I player around with various remote desktop clients and setttled for TeamViewer, since it`s the easiest to use on the end-user part. Install and then it generates an unique ID + pass, from which i can connect fast to the machine.

The donation for remote tech support and Windows Media Center config (everything in the guide + custom settings for the user, themes bla bla) is 10$ (paypal), for the moment (probably will be 15$ but for starters 10$). Money Back if it doesn`t work out, ofcourse.

I`m also updating the software package in an hour (depends on the upload speed). This time there will be 2, 1 for x86 and one for x64. Smaller download this way.

After i`m finished i`ll create a yahoo + msn account(s) (i presume those are what most people use for IM) for contacting about support.

Wow, that is an awesome service. I will most likely take you up on this offer if I can't figure it out myself (I like to tinker), either way I will send you a donation for the time you put into this guide

Before I go through with building a Win 7 HTPC using 7MC, I want to ensure I can backup and play back my bluray collection without any loss of audio and/or video quality. In other words I want the quality and functionality to equal or surpass that of my PS3. Is this possible to accomplish using 7MC, assuming I purchase the correct hardware?

Also another more specific question: How is 24p handled? I have a Samsung plasma (PN63C8000) that supports 24 Hz and PS3 as my BluRay player. Currently, if I put a bluray into my PS3, my display and ps3 automatically detects whether or not the movie is 24p and plays it back appropriately. Does 7MC automatically detect this as well, or do I have to manually toggle settings on and off for this depending on the content?
post #1542 of 4573
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There are several options :

If you rip to MKV both MPC-HC (as an external player) and the internal 7MC player (with Media Control) can do that this (automatic 24p playback). For TMT3 or PDVD you will need a vbs script and reclock (i have it in one of my posts, i`ll link it to you after i find it). There is also a plugin that allows you to manually change refresh rates if you wish.
But first you should see if you notice any difference between 24p and 60Hz, if the video looks smooth you don`t need to bother.

As for backing up, there are a couple of ways : MKV or Blu Ray folders/ISO. from both you will get HD audio + untouched video without loosing quality. You only loose quality when you compress, but that`s another thing. As far as video quality goes, a HD5450 get`s 179 in the HQV 2.0 tests (out of 210 max), only dedicated video processors (or the ones integrated in high end receivers) (that cost 1000$+) get ~195-200 or more. You can see a couple of screenshots from my HTPC (HD5450) here : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=mpc+hc+wmp12
And on my site : http://www.htpc-central.com/2010/08/...ater-3-vs.html (scroll down to the Picture Quality section of that review)

PS: Take note that some of those screens are with Dynamic Contrast on (feature in Catalyst), so the contrast is a little off, i forgot to turn it off at that time.
Thanks for the donation, if you have any issues that can`t be resolved, PM me and we`ll see to setting up TeamViewer and resolving it
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ok guys, how do you get AAC to pass 5.1 or DD signal to the AVR? I am only getting "stereo" signal.

Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
MPC-HC 64bit
ffdshow 64bit
optical from onboard audio

thanks!
post #1544 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

There are several options :

If you rip to MKV both MPC-HC (as an external player) and the internal 7MC player (with Media Control) can do that this (automatic 24p playback). For TMT3 or PDVD you will need a vbs script and reclock (i have it in one of my posts, i`ll link it to you after i find it). There is also a plugin that allows you to manually change refresh rates if you wish.
But first you should see if you notice any difference between 24p and 60Hz, if the video looks smooth you don`t need to bother.

As for backing up, there are a couple of ways : MKV or Blu Ray folders/ISO. from both you will get HD audio + untouched video without loosing quality. You only loose quality when you compress, but that`s another thing. As far as video quality goes, a HD5450 get`s 179 in the HQV 2.0 tests (out of 210 max), only dedicated video processors (or the ones integrated in high end receivers) (that cost 1000$+) get ~195-200 or more. You can see a couple of screenshots from my HTPC (HD5450) here : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=mpc+hc+wmp12
And on my site : http://www.htpc-central.com/2010/08/...ater-3-vs.html (scroll down to the Picture Quality section of that review)

PS: Take note that some of those screens are with Dynamic Contrast on (feature in Catalyst), so the contrast is a little off, i forgot to turn it off at that time.
Thanks for the donation, if you have any issues that can`t be resolved, PM me and we`ll see to setting up TeamViewer and resolving it

Awesome thanks!!!

You mention that the HD5450 falls a little short of high end video processors in the HQV 2.0 test. Is this a personal test you have done or are there public results for this? Also does that mean playing a BluRay in the PS3 will be better or the same as the HD5450?
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Hey guys, am an avid follower of this thread (always check to see if there are new tweaks to do etc.), just wanted to ask, anybody know the correct name of the trutheater filter to use to upscale my mpeg2 dvd rips thru MPC?
I currently use media browser, then launch MPC-HC for m2ts, video_ts, and avi (mpeg2) movie files. I have CyberlinkPowerDVD 10 SP/decoder UPnP as the external filter launching for MPC for the avi/Mpeg2 files, is this the trutheater version of the decoder? Just wanted the best video decoder for the dvd rips.
Thanks in advance, and as always, great guide greeneyez
post #1546 of 4573
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

ok guys, how do you get AAC to pass 5.1 or DD signal to the AVR? I am only getting "stereo" signal.

Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
MPC-HC 64bit
ffdshow 64bit
optical from onboard audio

thanks!

IIRC (and plz some1 correct me if I am wrong) but doesn't optical only do stereo PCM on motherboards?

Things to check anyway:
Check Windows speaker config or whatever sound utility you have to make sure your speaker config is correct (For instance in Windows sound, put 5.1 or whatever etc...). Since you are running apps like ffdshow and MPC-HC verify those audio settings are also set right for outputting the # of channels you want...I am still pretty sure, however, that motherboard audio optical out ports only do stereo PCM though...
post #1547 of 4573
I posted this in one of the TMT3 threads but it doesn't seem to have generated much interest. Therefor, I'll post it here to see if anyone knows what's going on.

So I noticed something interesting while using ReClock with TotalMedia Theatre 3. I was playing my copy of Kick-Ass on BD and ReClock claims I'm outputting a 1080i stream (although my TV says it's receiving a 1080p signal).

I tried to create a screenshot for you but it seems TMT3 disables my Prt Scr button. Anyhoo, I decided to play my mkv file of The Losers on TMT3 and, sure enough, ReClock reports "24.000 fps, 1920x800i, NV12 12 bits". However, when I play the same file on WMP12, ReClock reports the following:



Rather curious, no?
post #1548 of 4573
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Luckily i actually have Kick-Ass , so i can test out when i get back from work today.
By default TMT3 does not disable the PrScreen button, but since the program uses Overlay, any screenshot you take will give you a black window, since the video is rendered on a different layer than the desktop.

If you want to take screenshots from TMT3, use the capture button in the control bar.
post #1549 of 4573
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Originally Posted by braddles69 View Post

Hey guys, am an avid follower of this thread (always check to see if there are new tweaks to do etc.), just wanted to ask, anybody know the correct name of the trutheater filter to use to upscale my mpeg2 dvd rips thru MPC?
I currently use media browser, then launch MPC-HC for m2ts, video_ts, and avi (mpeg2) movie files. I have CyberlinkPowerDVD 10 SP/decoder UPnP as the external filter launching for MPC for the avi/Mpeg2 files, is this the trutheater version of the decoder? Just wanted the best video decoder for the dvd rips.
Thanks in advance, and as always, great guide greeneyez

Ok, i`ll look into it when i get home from work. But i think the TrueTheater decode is propretary and not available for usage with an external player, but i may be wrong.
post #1550 of 4573
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Originally Posted by terminaldawn View Post

Awesome thanks!!!

You mention that the HD5450 falls a little short of high end video processors in the HQV 2.0 test. Is this a personal test you have done or are there public results for this? Also does that mean playing a BluRay in the PS3 will be better or the same as the HD5450?

Anandtech had reviews with HQV testes, that`a were i got the numbers from, i`ll hook you up with a link when i get back from work. As for the PS3, i have one and PQ looks the same to me, but you may want to enable EE (edge-enhancement) in the Ati Control Center, since the PS3 by default adds a little sharpening to the image.
post #1551 of 4573
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Originally Posted by ABSiNTH View Post

IIRC (and plz some1 correct me if I am wrong) but doesn't optical only do stereo PCM on motherboards?

Things to check anyway:
Check Windows speaker config or whatever sound utility you have to make sure your speaker config is correct (For instance in Windows sound, put 5.1 or whatever etc...). Since you are running apps like ffdshow and MPC-HC verify those audio settings are also set right for outputting the # of channels you want...I am still pretty sure, however, that motherboard audio optical out ports only do stereo PCM though...

Yup, only stereo, and not only on motherboards, the standard itself only allows for :

multichannel DD/DTS
2.0 PCM.
post #1552 of 4573
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Update : I added the 2 Yahoo and Microsoft Live Messanger IDs for the tech support "service"
greeneyez_mediacenter@yahoo.com
greeneyez_mediacenter@hotmail.com

And will add the skype one later.
post #1553 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Yup, only stereo, and not only on motherboards, the standard itself only allows for :

multichannel DD/DTS
2.0 PCM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ABSiNTH View Post

IIRC (and plz some1 correct me if I am wrong) but doesn't optical only do stereo PCM on motherboards?

Things to check anyway:
Check Windows speaker config or whatever sound utility you have to make sure your speaker config is correct (For instance in Windows sound, put 5.1 or whatever etc...). Since you are running apps like ffdshow and MPC-HC verify those audio settings are also set right for outputting the # of channels you want...I am still pretty sure, however, that motherboard audio optical out ports only do stereo PCM though...

so, there's no way to get 5.1 to the AVR with AAC file? i am able to do DD/DTS just fine with the optical on motherboard.
post #1554 of 4573
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Nope, only DD and DTS. Or HDMI (that does multichannel LPCM)
post #1555 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Nope, only DD and DTS. Or HDMI (that does multichannel LPCM)

i am hearing that ffdshow can decode AAC to AC3, and send the AC3 signal to the AVR? is this not correct?
post #1556 of 4573
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It`s possible, ffdshow can do a lot of things. I`ll look into it after i get some sleep (rough day at work) and see what i can dig up. I`ll be back in about 7-8 hours .
post #1557 of 4573
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Originally Posted by MiBz View Post

To be sure it's not a network or share access issue, as a test; set both the demux and remux locations to local folders.

Create a folder on your local C: drive called Ripping. Within this folder create 2 folders called Demux and Output.

In ClownBD set the demux location as C:\\Ripping\\Demux\\ and set the tsmuxer output field to C:\\Ripping\\Output.
Don't include a movie folder name for the tsmuxer output field. ClownBD already creates a folder with the movie name inside the Output folder, otherwise you'll end up with the movie in a nested duplicate sub folder.

Thanks Mibz,

It cost me $125 to confirm this was the problem but I needed another 2TB drive for the NAS anyway. Everything works great with the drive in the HTPC. Just need to figure out why the network is giving it problems when storing the files on the NAS.

Thanks Again!
post #1558 of 4573
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Originally Posted by GreenEyez View Post

Luckily i actually have Kick-Ass , so i can test out when i get back from work today.
By default TMT3 does not disable the PrScreen button, but since the program uses Overlay, any screenshot you take will give you a black window, since the video is rendered on a different layer than the desktop.

If you want to take screenshots from TMT3, use the capture button in the control bar.

Cool. I'll await your test.

Yeah but the capture button is disabled for BD's, isn't it?
post #1559 of 4573
RocShemp - I noticed Reclock doing the same for me using MPC-HC on a 720p encode. MediaInfo reports the scan type as progressive, which it should be.
post #1560 of 4573
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Originally Posted by idaho_mark View Post

RocShemp - I noticed Reclock doing the same for me using MPC-HC on a 720p encode. MediaInfo reports the scan type as progressive, which it should be.

Cool. I noticed that TMT3 says the video is progressive but was dumbfounded when ReClock said it was interlaced. I didn't know which one to trust.
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