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post #2941 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post


M2TS is locked into the Media Foundation pipeline by default.
The moment you disable Media Foundation, the 'Directshow Merit system' kicks in and you can do anything your heart desires with M2TS files.
Since I have your attention, its been a very long time since you tested my software.
I even support VC1 interlaced files within m2ts or MKV for playback in the Windows players.

It is on my list to revisit and document. The one issue I have is that for my core i5 htpc I need to use the arcsoft video decoder to get dxva for vc1. I haven't checked if that is something built in to your pack or I would need to supply separately.

I also plan on doing a clean install on my amd htpc which means at least for that one I wouldn't have to worry about arcsoft
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post #2942 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

It is on my list to revisit and document. The one issue I have is that for my core i5 htpc I need to use the arcsoft video decoder to get dxva for vc1. I haven't checked if that is something built in to your pack or I would need to supply separately.

I also plan on doing a clean install on my amd htpc which means at least for that one I wouldn't have to worry about arcsoft

vc1 dxva is supported by ffdshow UNLESS the content is interlaced, then no dxva.
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post #2943 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post


The MS Audio decoder does not need to be disabled.
Only for M2TS, Media Foundation must be disabled to allow directshow interaction (ffdshow).

It is worth noting this then since the original op mentioned that mf no longer needed to be disabled to bitstream hd audio , but there is obviously a case where it needs to be. I don't know if what he mentioned about disabling mf breaking live tv still holds true.
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post #2944 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post


vc1 dxva is supported by ffdshow UNLESS the content is interlaced, then no dxva.

Yeah but ffdshow does not play nice with intel graphics which is why you cannot use this approach with intel. I use the ms video decoder for h264 and arcsoft for vc1. This gives you dxva and proper videol playback with intel graphics
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post #2945 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

It is worth noting this then since the original op mentioned that mf no longer needed to be disabled to bitstream hd audio , but there is obviously a case where it needs to be. I don't know if what he mentioned about disabling mf breaking live tv still holds true.

diabling Media Foundation HAS NEVER broken LiveTV.
(I should really revise my list under 'These HACKS may break LiveTV')

Only 2 things break LiveTV, disabling the MS Audio or Video decoders.
For x86 systems, I supply alternate codecs for LiveTV if people wish to disable the MS decoders.
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post #2946 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yeah but ffdshow does not play nice with intel graphics which is why you cannot use this approach with intel. I use the ms video decoder for h264 and arcsoft for vc1. This gives you dxva and proper videol playback with intel graphics

ahhh, the old intel issue. This one often slips my mind.
My desktop uses an AMD-6870 and my laptop has a nvidia 460m
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post #2947 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post

I'm not sure, but i am thinking this is a problem with 64bit operating systems as I have never gotten it to show up, ever
And I have used every trick I could find to get it to work.

I have win 7 64 on 2 pc's. One I just installed an hour ago and both had the netflix icon by default.
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post #2948 of 4573
3/2/11 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

I have win 7 64 on 2 pc's. One I just installed an hour ago and both had the netflix icon by default.

thanks for the followup information (there goes that theory)
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post #2949 of 4573
3/2/11 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post

I'm not sure, but i am thinking this is a problem with 64bit operating systems as I have never gotten it to show up, ever
And I have used every trick I could find to get it to work.

thats odd, because I used 64 bit win7 in the previous reformat too and I thought it was working then, but I may be confusing it with the install before that which was 32-bit

Its not a total deal breaker, but i'd love to not have to reformat AGAIN with everything working the way I want it to now
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post #2950 of 4573
3/2/11 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by owan View Post

Its not a total deal breaker, but i'd love to not have to reformat AGAIN with everything working the way I want it to now

I read some posts over @ TGB where people were having success by changing their DNS servers.
It didnt work for me (Canadian?), but it may work for you.
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post #2951 of 4573
3/2/11 at 8:45pm
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Originally Posted by Shark007 View Post

diabling Media Foundation HAS NEVER broken LiveTV.
(I should really revise my list under 'These HACKS may break LiveTV')

Only 2 things break LiveTV, disabling the MS Audio or Video decoders.
For x86 systems, I supply alternate codecs for LiveTV if people wish to disable the MS decoders.

I can watch LiveTv using your pack.
Win7 x64, FFdshow audio and FFdshow video.
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post #2952 of 4573
3/2/11 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post


How is that, Shark007 disables Media Foundation to allow for bitstreaming (this is the only way you can get WMP/WMC internal player to use direct show filters)??? This has nothing to do with ATI drivers

I am a fairly experienced htpc enthusiast. I was never able to get bitstream to work using ffdshow without disabling windows audio renderer (swap tab), which produced problems with live tv. To my knowledge this is one of the pillars of media foundation? The other obviously being video. Recently after the latest ati hdmi driver something changed and I am able to bitstream, not using mpc anymore and not using the swap tab. Not trying to pretent to understand the theory behind this, I have always been a extreme trial and error kind of guy. Btw i was already running w7 sp1, which was not THE change cause. Hope this sheds some light.
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post #2953 of 4573
3/2/11 at 11:53pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

That is odd. I have a Harmony One, and under customize buttons I assigned back (see screenshot)


checked my harmony set-up, it is the same as yours dbone but still does not work..
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post #2954 of 4573
3/3/11 at 2:21am
I am trying to replicate GreenEyez setup in the original post with Media Browser. I'm to the point where I have changed the background on WMC but the word "START" still appears. How do I remove that? I replaced both of the Common Background png files with Media Center Studio. I am running WMC Vista.

Thx for any insight!

PS - I'd also like to know where he got his icons (both for Media Browser and for Movies).

PPS - is there a way to move my WMC home menu over to the left, and down to the bottom?

thx
LL
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post #2955 of 4573
3/3/11 at 3:28am
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Originally Posted by rexb610 View Post

checked my harmony set-up, it is the same as yours dbone but still does not work..

So your Harmony is set up as an MCE remote, yet back doesn't work? That is odd, this works for me on two different setups with two different remotes (Harmony One and Harmony 900)
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post #2956 of 4573
3/3/11 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post


So your Harmony is set up as an MCE remote, yet back doesn't work? That is odd, this works for me on two different setups with two different remotes (Harmony One and Harmony 900)

Yea, mine works as well. Might try deleting the device and then re-add it.
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post #2957 of 4573
3/3/11 at 3:46pm
Could also try learning that button on your Harmony. I learned all the buttons to my MX-700 and the back button works great.
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post #2958 of 4573
3/4/11 at 2:06pm
Subtitles??

I was watching a movie last night that had forced english subs, but the subs were not playing. I went to have a bit of a poke around in shark settings and it suggested I update to the newer version. I did this process and when I started the movie back up, I had subs, but the audio had returned back to non HD bitstreaming.

This morning I reset the appropriate settings to get HD bitstreaming working again, but have lost subs again. Sorry for the long story, but how do I get the subs to work??
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post #2959 of 4573
3/4/11 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026

So your Harmony is set up as an MCE remote, yet back doesn't work? That is odd, this works for me on two different setups with two different remotes (Harmony One and Harmony 900)
check the Harmony software. There is Ã* specific W7MC in stead of general MCE. This solved it for me on my 525.
Btw thnx dbone for pursuing that bitstreaming discussion earlier
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post #2960 of 4573
3/5/11 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by saxnix View Post

Subtitles??

I was watching a movie last night that had forced english subs, but the subs were not playing. I went to have a bit of a poke around in shark settings and it suggested I update to the newer version. I did this process and when I started the movie back up, I had subs, but the audio had returned back to non HD bitstreaming.

This morning I reset the appropriate settings to get HD bitstreaming working again, but have lost subs again. Sorry for the long story, but how do I get the subs to work??

What I do for subtitles is to use FFDshow for subs and then configure FFDshow itself (click the FFDshow button in Shark to pull it up) for whatever sub settings you want (like using external sub files, etc.) I've never gotten consistent subs using Vobsub.
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post #2961 of 4573
3/5/11 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yeah but ffdshow does not play nice with intel graphics which is why you cannot use this approach with intel. I use the ms video decoder for h264 and arcsoft for vc1. This gives you dxva and proper videol playback with intel graphics

Can you guide me how to enable MS Video Decoder for h264 because I can't see this option on Shark007
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post #2962 of 4573
3/5/11 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post


Can you guide me how to enable MS Video Decoder for h264 because I can't see this option on Shark007

I believe the ms video decoder should be the default video decoder for h264. You can confirm this by using graph studio. However, since your question is related to sharks pack I will let him confirm/clarify

As an aside here is my guide on using arcsoft/ms for mpc with an intel gpu

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011...-an-intel-gpu/
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post #2963 of 4573
3/5/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by Ghanz View Post

check the Harmony software. There is Ã* specific W7MC in stead of general MCE. This solved it for me on my 525.
Btw thnx dbone for pursuing that bitstreaming discussion earlier

No problem, it can be a confusing topic. Basically if you want to bitstream HD audio from the internal WMC player or WMP and you want to make sure you are covered for the two main HD formats (mkv and m2ts) you need to disable Media Foundation (specific for m2ts). However, disabling Media Foundation should not break LiveTV.

I prefer just to stick with MPC HC as my player (launching from Media Browser) as IMO this is the cleanest approach, but I can understand why others want to use the default internal player. This is also a reason why XBMC will be much more appealing once the new audio engine is in place, as you will get full support for HD Audio from their internal player and all codec support will be built in internally
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post #2964 of 4573
3/5/11 at 9:25am
i just got my zacate system put together.
now to software side, i got window 7 installed.

now i plan to use this guide in the first page to continue (and support for media browser)

would someone help summarize in order to install back end software and plugins i should follow?

like:
Windows 7 installation
Windows Media Center
Media Browser + Plugins
Media Center Master
Media Center Studio
Media Center Plugins
Shark007
....

or it doesn't mater which to install first after Windows Media Center.

Thanks,
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post #2965 of 4573
3/5/11 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

No problem, it can be a confusing topic. Basically if you want to bitstream HD audio from the internal WMC player or WMP and you want to make sure you are covered for the two main HD formats (mkv and m2ts) you need to disable Media Foundation (specific for m2ts). However, disabling Media Foundation should not break LiveTV.

I prefer just to stick with MPC HC as my player (launching from Media Browser) as IMO this is the cleanest approach, but I can understand why others want to use the default internal player. This is also a reason why XBMC will be much more appealing once the new audio engine is in place, as you will get full support for HD Audio from their internal player and all codec support will be built in internally

Hey D do you ever have a problem where the remote stops working to control mpc.

I have it set up an external player. And sometimes once I launch a movie the remote is still controlling wmc. I recentlly redid my htpc's so all the software is up to date.

It seems like maybe the newer version of mpc or something has caused this, but its rather annoying.

I have to grab the mouse and at least pause it with the mouse to get the remote to work with it again.
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post #2966 of 4573
3/5/11 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post


Hey D do you ever have a problem where the remote stops working to control mpc.

I have it set up an external player. And sometimes once I launch a movie the remote is still controlling wmc. I recentlly redid my htpc's so all the software is up to date.

It seems like maybe the newer version of mpc or something has caused this, but its rather annoying.

I have to grab the mouse and at least pause it with the mouse to get the remote to work with it again.

I haven't had that issue, but it has been a while since I updated mpc hc so I don't know if it possibly a bug that was introduced
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post #2967 of 4573
3/5/11 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I haven't had that issue, but it has been a while since I updated mpc hc so I don't know if it possibly a bug that was introduced

Ok yah maybe. Its frustrating I have it happen on 2 pc's.

I'm hoping if I save the settings to an .ini file. I can save that and use it on a new install. Would be great because I hate setting up all the commands for the wmc remote everytime.
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post #2968 of 4573
3/5/11 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post


No problem, it can be a confusing topic. Basically if you want to bitstream HD audio from the internal WMC player or WMP and you want to make sure you are covered for the two main HD formats (mkv and m2ts) you need to disable Media Foundation (specific for m2ts). However, disabling Media Foundation should not break LiveTV.

I prefer just to stick with MPC HC as my player (launching from Media Browser) as IMO this is the cleanest approach, but I can understand why others want to use the default internal player. This is also a reason why XBMC will be much more appealing once the new audio engine is in place, as you will get full support for HD Audio from their internal player and all codec support will be built in internally

I have been Ã* mediaportal user for years, however since I am from Home Otten THE waf forced me to 7mc. I must say with mediabrowser and powerdvd it is Ã* pretty stable setup. I used to be running mpc-hc also however had problems if it was not closed properly waf again. something changed after latest hdmi driver update, which allowed me to bitstream HD audio with less problems with mscodecs. I understand from sharks opinion that it should only have been Ã* possible factor in mt2s. Uhm must be inconsistency in my system then. It works. U2 at rosebowl dts-HD is pretty awsome.
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post #2969 of 4573
3/6/11 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by echoesian View Post

Can you guide me how to enable MS Video Decoder for h264 because I can't see this option on Shark007

As dbone mentioned, it should be enabled by default if you selected the recommended settings. I believe you can change this on the H264 tab and on the SWAP tab you can disable it completely.
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post #2970 of 4573
3/6/11 at 12:57pm
What is the best method for creating a m2ts bluray rip? I have DVDfab but it doesnt seem to create m2ts unless I'm missing something. I need to rip to a format that can be found by the media section of Control4 which from what I understand it is pretty slim pickings.
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