AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official LG xxPK950 Owner's Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Official LG xxPK950 Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 43

post #1261 of 1359
I apologize if this has been repeated over and over, but I don't feel like going through hundreds of pages...

Does anyone have a recommendation for a wall-mount from monoprice for the 50" version? It would be great knowing that the mount is one that people use and love. Thanks.
post #1262 of 1359
Hooguns - You might be happier working with the Pk750 thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1235641

All we can do is tell how things work on the PK950.

DelJ




Quote:
Originally Posted by hoogguns View Post

Vcolassi--

Thanks for the response, I know I'm gonna get ripped for this, but can you tell me how to turn off noise reduction? Sorry, I'm not as much of an expert on televisions as I pretend to be...

Thank you!!
post #1263 of 1359
Most wall mounts will stick out quite a bit from the wall, and will look ugly if you are able to see the TV from the side.

DelJ





Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLaw612 View Post

I apologize if this has been repeated over and over, but I don't feel like going through hundreds of pages...

Does anyone have a recommendation for a wall-mount from monoprice for the 50" version? It would be great knowing that the mount is one that people use and love. Thanks.
post #1264 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLaw612 View Post
I apologize if this has been repeated over and over, but I don't feel like going through hundreds of pages...

Does anyone have a recommendation for a wall-mount from monoprice for the 50" version? It would be great knowing that the mount is one that people use and love. Thanks.
I am debating between these two:The ultra slim or the low profile but I cant' decide, I know that I have to use adapters for the HDMI, I need to use at least 2 maybe all 3 HDMI ports and I'm considering this one HDMI Right Angle Port Saver but not sure if the ultra slim will be too close and even the adapters wont work.
post #1265 of 1359
These are my current settings, actually the settings I've been using for a over a month now. I like them so well that I don't feel like I could really squeeze anymore out of this TV.

Before these settings I used a tweaked version of the settings from flatpanelshd. After comparing these new settings, it became apparent that the flatpanelshd settings are too "cold" and lacked some color depth.

I just had a guy over at the Blu-ray.com forums try these settings and he loves them.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Spoiler  
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Here are my full settings. Although I have a PK950, They are based on CNET's settings for the PX950 (I just decided to try it and hey it looks awesome), but slightly tweaked. Also, CNET did a full 20-point calibration, but I still have not tried the 20-point specific settings. I've only ever used their 2-point settings and the settings for the color management system.


Contrast: 94 (Cnet used 95. Some users have reported this number being too high on their own panels, especially when putting up a white/greyscale test image. I have not tried a test image, but enjoy 94)

Brightness 50
Vertical Sharpness 55*
Horizontal Sharpness 55*
Color 52
Dynamic Contrast Off
Noise Reduction Off
Gamma High
Black Level Low
Color Gamut standard
Edge Enhancement off (sometimes I enable it for soft transfers or for some 2D animation)
Color Filter Off
Color Temp Warm
Method 2-points
pattern outer

Red Contrast 7
Green contrast 18
Blue contrast -15

Red Brightness 4
Green Brightness -7
Blue Brightness 22

Color Management System:

Red Color -14
0
Green Color -5
0
Blue Color -23
0
Yellow Color 0
0
Cyan Color 0
-6
magenta Color -6
4



*I have sharpness set to 50 on the input used by my Comcast HD cable box. I did this because broadcast HD is low bitrate and a higher sharpness brings out the artifacts and noise.
post #1266 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post

Color Management System:

Red Color -14
0
Green Color -5
0
Blue Color -23
0
Yellow Color 0
0
Cyan Color 0
-6
magenta Color -6
4

I'm confused, should I plug in the numbers next to the color, or the ones on the line below? Thanks
post #1267 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by td2243 View Post

I'm confused, should I plug in the numbers next to the color, or the ones on the line below? Thanks

the numbers in between are for the tint settings So...

Red Color -14
Red tint 0
Green Color -5
etc


I just thought it might be easier to read/look at when trying to actually enter these numbers into your TV
post #1268 of 1359
[quote=Toptube;19929275]These are my current settings, actually the settings I've been using for a over a month now. I like them so well that I don't feel like I could really squeeze anymore out of this TV.

Before these settings I used a tweaked version of the settings from flatpanelshd. After comparing these new settings, it became apparent that the flatpanelshd settings are too "cold" and lacked some color depth.

I just had a guy over at the Blu-ray.com forums try these settings and he loves them.

[spoiler]Here are my full settings. Although I have a PK950, They are based on CNET's settings for the PX950 (I just decided to try it and hey it looks awesome), but slightly tweaked. Also, CNET did a full 20-point calibration, but I still have not tried the 20-point specific settings. I've only ever used their 2-point settings and the settings for the color management system.


Thanks Toptube. I was just playing with the settings on my set. I was just using Alice & Wonderland off Direct TV @ 1080i. I was using a tweaked "Standard" mode. I was pausing some scenes and did notice that your settings cleaned up the black much better. The dancing grain was minimal on blacks on the screen. Obviously i was standing a foot from the TV so a little grain might be evident, especially on a Direct TV source. But those settings you posted really cleaned up my picture alot! Cant wait to try them on Blu ray. I am still a fan of a tweaked "Sports" mode for sporting events. Maybe its just my eyes but i like team colors, grass, and so on to "pop" Even if it is "unrealistic"

PS: Are you using these settings for both "day" & "night" viewing?
post #1269 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vcolassi View Post

PS: Are you using these settings for both "day" & "night" viewing?

Yep. But, my living room has very little ambient light, so most of the light just comes from the lights in the room, which are off center. and for serious viewing, I can just turn the lights off and its pretty dark in there. But even with the lights on, its bright and punchy enough for enjoyable viewing or game playing. I watch broadcast TV and play videogames all the time with the lights on. Blu-rays always get the lights off, though!
post #1270 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post

Yep. But, my living room has very little ambient light, so most of the light just comes from the lights in the room, which are off center. and for serious viewing, I can just turn the lights off and its pretty dark in there. But even with the lights on, its bright and punchy enough for enjoyable viewing or game playing. I watch broadcast TV and play videogames all the time with the lights on. Blu-rays always get the lights off, though!

Sweet thanks man. My room lighting situation is very similar to yours. Quick question. You mentioned gaming. Do you use these settings when you play Xbox or Ps3 i am assuming? I was using a tweaked "game" setting mode for my ps3. I was under the impression that the "game" mode was better for gaming to reduce input lag. Do you use the "game" mode?
post #1271 of 1359
I don't think the game mode for this TV does anything to try and lower latency (often, game modes will turn off most of the image processing features). I think here its just some tweaked image settings. high contrast, a sharpness kick, and a color bump.

I use the settings I posted for gaming. Those settings just give me a good image. Period. With each game I do try the edge enhancement.

I play a lot of BC2 and have not experienced any noticeable input lag/latency. I play just as well as I was on my 32-inch Panasonic TC-32LX700 (which was known for not only being an excellent TV, but also having low input lag). I've recently had some of my best games ever.
post #1272 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post

These are my current settings, actually the settings I've been using for a over a month now. I like them so well that I don't feel like I could really squeeze anymore out of this TV.

Before these settings I used a tweaked version of the settings from flatpanelshd. After comparing these new settings, it became apparent that the flatpanelshd settings are too "cold" and lacked some color depth.

I just had a guy over at the Blu-ray.com forums try these settings and he loves them.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Spoiler  
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Here are my full settings. Although I have a PK950, They are based on CNET's settings for the PX950 (I just decided to try it and hey it looks awesome), but slightly tweaked. Also, CNET did a full 20-point calibration, but I still have not tried the 20-point specific settings. I've only ever used their 2-point settings and the settings for the color management system.


Contrast: 94 (Cnet used 95. Some users have reported this number being too high on their own panels, especially when putting up a white/greyscale test image. I have not tried a test image, but enjoy 94)

Brightness 50
Vertical Sharpness 55*
Horizontal Sharpness 55*
Color 52
Dynamic Contrast Off
Noise Reduction Off
Gamma High
Black Level Low
Color Gamut standard
Edge Enhancement off (sometimes I enable it for soft transfers or for some 2D animation)
Color Filter Off
Color Temp Warm
Method 2-points
pattern outer

Red Contrast 7
Green contrast 18
Blue contrast -15

Red Brightness 4
Green Brightness -7
Blue Brightness 22

Color Management System:

Red Color -14
0
Green Color -5
0
Blue Color -23
0
Yellow Color 0
0
Cyan Color 0
-6
magenta Color -6
4



*I have sharpness set to 50 on the input used by my Comcast HD cable box. I did this because broadcast HD is low bitrate and a higher sharpness brings out the artifacts and noise.

I finally added the 20 point settings from CNET's calibration of the PX950. (I had only been using the 2 point settings.

With my initial appraisal (I'm rewatching my Mad Men Blu-rays) of paused scenes, its all about the color. It looks like it trades a hint of the warm punch from just the 2-point, for bone stock accuracy. Basically, overall color accuracy and color contrast seems to be pretty tight, giving a slight impression of more clarity when actually watching and not just looking at paused screens. Additionally, the color gray now appears nearly accurate, which you can see just by opening the menu. I did have to add one more point onto brightness (from my settings above), as the missing punch dropped the overall brightness by about that much. Its barely noticeable, but I did notice, using a dark scene with two characters inside a taxi at night.

Again, I haven't run it past any benchmarks or calibration images. But if its any consolation, my color vision is quite good. I can actually see all of the numbers in a general color test, which most men cannot.

The difference is not huge though, It may be tough to pick between the two. I think in general, a slightly warm picture can very nice to watch and is even preferred by americans in statistical test. I should try some other things, as Mad Men is known for rich color saturation already. Maybe something different wouldn't favor accuracy as much, but rather a little more punch.


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Spoiler  
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
-- 20 point IRE calibration
IRE: [Red, Green, Blue results, respectively, for each IRE point]
100 [4, 0, -50]
95 [-21, 0, -50]
90 [-13, -9, 12]
85 [0, -6, 20]
80 [10, 0, 20]
75 [2, 6, -9]
70 [0, 0, 0]
65 [0, 0, 0]
60 [0, 0, 0]
55 [0, 0, 0]
50 [0, 0, 0]
45 [0, 0, 0]
40 [0, 0, 0]
35 [0, 0, 0]
30 [0, 0, 0]
25 [0, 0, 0]
20 [0, 0, 0]
15 [0, 0, 0]
10 [0, 0, 0]
5 [-5, -4, -8]
0 [0, 0, 0]
post #1273 of 1359
Toptube, what size is your PK950? I've used your settings, it looks pretty good... but I think but too warm and makes the black appear slight greenish. Makes the Cnet setting look bluish. Not sure if size has anything to do with the size, mines a 60.
post #1274 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

Toptube, what size is your PK950? I've used your settings, it looks pretty good... but I think but too warm and makes the black appear slight greenish. Makes the Cnet setting look bluish. Not sure if size has anything to do with the size, mines a 60.

I have a 50-inch. Both the 2-point and the 20-point settings I posted are from CNET's posted settings for the PX950. I just thought that I would try them, since the panels are similar, and I was never really happy with CNET's PK950 settings or flatpanelshd. For me, these PX950 settings work out pretty damn well.

The things that I changed from their posted settings are one point less contrast, several points less brightness, and I use 55 for horizontal and vertical sharpness, instead of the common "50" in most settings I've seen.

On my TV, both the 2-point and the full 20-point from the PX950 settings (with my tweaks) minimize the green/red noise issue that is noticeable with this tv in the last couple shades of black. Pure black is noise free. This is of course, for my own TV. I don't claim that it will minimize that issue for other people, but I thought that I would post my experience, since I tried the calibrations for a different model and by chance its pretty nice!

with the 20-point settings, the gray suits in Mad Men look killer!
post #1275 of 1359
Gotcha, I'll try the 20point later on tonite. It would be perfect if the picture wasn't so warm. Whites has a slight red tint to it and think its affecting the blacks to look slight greenish.
post #1276 of 1359
On my TV, the full 20-point definitely got rid of the slight red tint to whites that is present in the warm punch of just using their 2-point settings.
post #1277 of 1359
the 20point looks pretty fantastic, green push has been really minimized in the blacks (tried Sin City). Not sure how accurate they are but they are eye pleasing, skin color looks realistic and warm color has did toned down. Thank you!!!
post #1278 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post


I finally added the 20 point settings from CNET's calibration of the PX950. (I had only been using the 2 point settings.

With my initial appraisal (I'm rewatching my Mad Men Blu-rays) of paused scenes, its all about the color. It looks like it trades a hint of the warm punch from just the 2-point, for bone stock accuracy. Basically, overall color accuracy and color contrast seems to be pretty tight, giving a slight impression of more clarity when actually watching and not just looking at paused screens. Additionally, the color gray now appears nearly accurate, which you can see just by opening the menu. I did have to add one more point onto brightness (from my settings above), as the missing punch dropped the overall brightness by about that much. Its barely noticeable, but I did notice, using a dark scene with two characters inside a taxi at night.

Again, I haven't run it past any benchmarks or calibration images. But if its any consolation, my color vision is quite good. I can actually see all of the numbers in a general color test, which most men cannot.

The difference is not huge though, It may be tough to pick between the two. I think in general, a slightly warm picture can very nice to watch and is even preferred by americans in statistical test. I should try some other things, as Mad Men is known for rich color saturation already. Maybe something different wouldn't favor accuracy as much, but rather a little more punch.

-- 20 point IRE calibration
IRE: [Red, Green, Blue results, respectively, for each IRE point]
100 [4, 0, -50]
95 [-21, 0, -50]
90 [-13, -9, 12]
85 [0, -6, 20]
80 [10, 0, 20]
75 [2, 6, -9]
70 [0, 0, 0]
65 [0, 0, 0]
60 [0, 0, 0]
55 [0, 0, 0]
50 [0, 0, 0]
45 [0, 0, 0]
40 [0, 0, 0]
35 [0, 0, 0]
30 [0, 0, 0]
25 [0, 0, 0]
20 [0, 0, 0]
15 [0, 0, 0]
10 [0, 0, 0]
5 [-5, -4, -8]
0 [0, 0, 0]

Can you provide more detail on how to enter these values for a 20 point calibration? Sorry but it's confusing for a newbie like me
post #1279 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryu69 View Post


Thanks for checking PCHDTV. This image is from another person. for me it isn't as noticable since the light in my room isn't that bright. when the lights are turned off, it isn't there.

My set (60PK) has that to an extent as well but as long as I or anyone can't see it during content viewing why think about it?
post #1280 of 1359
I found your settings to be too red for viewing in natural daylight. The FlatpanelsHD settings are a better match if one is in a room with daylight coming in through windows. At night (or in a windowless room), your settings are more suited for the usual red-shifted indoor lighting.

Go ahead and give Dynamic Contrast a try at minimum. I find that it helps make the most of the available grayscale range without added much in the way of artificial nuisances. Likewise, the noise reduction feature is also beneficial. Some of the LG video processing functions are actually useful.

DelJ






Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post

Yep. But, my living room has very little ambient light, so most of the light just comes from the lights in the room, which are off center. and for serious viewing, I can just turn the lights off and its pretty dark in there. But even with the lights on, its bright and punchy enough for enjoyable viewing or game playing. I watch broadcast TV and play videogames all the time with the lights on. Blu-rays always get the lights off, though!
post #1281 of 1359
I've watched couple blurays now on Toptube's settings. Its pretty much on point, very similar color temp as the THX Bright but with deeper contrast and saturation. It does make the cnet look noticeably cooler but its definitely more eye pleasing to me.
post #1282 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by DelJ View Post

I found your settings to be too red for viewing in natural daylight. The FlatpanelsHD settings are a better match if one is in a room with daylight coming in through windows. At night (or in a windowless room), your settings are more suited for the usual red-shifted indoor lighting.

Go ahead and give Dynamic Contrast a try at minimum. I find that it helps make the most of the available grayscale range without added much in the way of artificial nuisances. Likewise, the noise reduction feature is also beneficial. Some of the LG video processing functions are actually useful.

DelJ

Flatpanels HD just looks too cold to me. its what I used for awhile, but I could never shake out the blue from people's lips and stuff.

I definitely agree that the 2-point settings I posted are warm, but it may be a good option for people looking for a little more punch. Especially If they really kind of like or recently came from an LCD. The 20-point though, seems to be pretty accurate, abient light or none. Again, this is using my TV. It may not work so well on yours.

I think I have light or medium noise reduction turned on for cable TV, to down play some of the artifacts.

dynamic contrast can be cool for videogames and some animated movies. but, since my contrast is set pretty high at 94, it tends to blow out bright areas so I have to compensate by lowering the main contrast setting. I've kind of just stopped trying to mess with it. I enjoy and am used to a natural picture, as I came from an LCD that has an extraordinarily natural color response (Panasonic TC-32LX700).
post #1283 of 1359
Did you post the 20-point numbers? I would be interested in trying them as well.

DelJ



Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post

Flatpanels HD just looks too cold to me. its what I used for awhile, but I could never shake out the blue from people's lips and stuff.

I definitely agree that the 2-point settings I posted are warm, but it may be a good option for people looking for a little more punch. Especially If they really kind of like or recently came from an LCD. The 20-point though, seems to be pretty accurate, abient light or none. Again, this is using my TV. It may not work so well on yours......
post #1284 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toptube View Post
These are my current settings, actually the settings I've been using for a over a month now. I like them so well that I don't feel like I could really squeeze anymore out of this TV.

Before these settings I used a tweaked version of the settings from flatpanelshd. After comparing these new settings, it became apparent that the flatpanelshd settings are too "cold" and lacked some color depth.

I just had a guy over at the Blu-ray.com forums try these settings and he loves them.
I applied the settings from your "spoiler" two days ago and the improvement was incredible. Watched Saving Private Ryan, David Foster and Friends, Mesrine Part 1 and Mesrine Part 2. Everything looked great.

I'm watching the Super Bowl on Fox OTA and it looks awesome.
post #1285 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by DelJ View Post
Did you post the 20-point numbers? I would be interested in trying them as well.

DelJ
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post19948779



Quote:
Originally Posted by sye46 View Post
Can you provide more detail on how to enter these values for a 20 point calibration? Sorry but it's confusing for a newbie like me
select an ISF mode from your picture mode options. Go into the advanced/expert section and enter all of the 2-point and color management settings. Then go back to where it says "method" and switch it to "20-point". Now you will see an item that says "IRE" and it will have a box next to it with a number. I think it starts on "50". change it to "100" and then enter the Red, Green, and Blue values for each number that is in my post. So, you set "100" then go back up and change it to "95", set the values for that, change it to "90", etc.

Also make sure to set all of the other settings that I posted, "High" Gamma, standard color gamut, "52" for color, etc. Ultimately, the master brightness, contrast, and sharpness are going to be adjusted to your tastes. But I would at least start with what I posted and go from there. Its likely your final contrast setting will be different from mine, but i think the brightness and sharpness settings should be pretty consistent from set to set. Remember that the 20-point settings will probably need an extra point of brightness for a final setting of "51".

*also keep in mind that every TV is different and these settings just may not work for you. The response so far in this thread seems to be pretty good, though!
post #1286 of 1359
thank you!!!!
post #1287 of 1359
Having issues with LG pk 950 RCA audio inputs


I have been trying to add external RCA speakers ( 5 speakers with 1 amplifiler) to my LG PK950 directly through RCA audio inputs with red and white cable, but so far I couldn't get any sound coming out of my speakers. I have tried all the audio inputs on the back, mute my TV and plug it in and out back and forth and yet still no sound.
Can anyone tell me what the problem is? I tried to connect the speakers to my blu-ray and cable box and they both worked fine, so the speakers don't have a problem. Dose that mean my TV audio inputs are malfunctioning????
post #1288 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamen331 View Post

Having issues with LG pk 950 RCA audio inputs


I have been trying to add external RCA speakers ( 5 speakers with 1 amplifiler) to my LG PK950 directly through RCA audio inputs with red and white cable, but so far I couldn't get any sound coming out of my speakers. I have tried all the audio inputs on the back, mute my TV and plug it in and out back and forth and yet still no sound.
Can anyone tell me what the problem is? I tried to connect the speakers to my blu-ray and cable box and they both worked fine, so the speakers don't have a problem. Dose that mean my TV audio inputs are malfunctioning????

I can't tell you exactly why, but I can tell that you are going about it the wrong way. The way it is supposed to work is you plug your HDMI from your audio/video source into your amplifier, then the HDMI out from your amplifier into your PK950. Your amplifier will play the sound and pass the picture on to your television.
post #1289 of 1359
Quote:
Originally Posted by dxjnorto View Post

I can't tell you exactly why, but I can tell that you are going about it the wrong way. The way it is supposed to work is you plug your HDMI from your audio/video source into your amplifier, then the HDMI out from your amplifier into your PK950. Your amplifier will play the sound and pass the picture on to your television.

Thanks for the reply

my amplifier dose not come with a HDMI input connection, that is why I was trying to see if anyway to connect my TV by using regular RCA cable or whatever they call it ( Red & White L/R cable), since it is the only one can be connected through my amplifier.

But I was told the only way is to hook it up to the audio output of my TV, which in this case dose not come with the LG PK 950
post #1290 of 1359
How much did you spend for your TV? It's time for $400 of AVR medicine right now. Try the Pioneer VSX-1020 thread.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Plasma Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Plasma Flat Panel Displays › The Official LG xxPK950 Owner's Discussion Thread