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post #1561 of 5875
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Originally Posted by Factoryguy View Post

Here's my experience after the first 3 days:

1. Packing materials: My first two 63c8000 units arrived with broken panels. One was shipped direct and one was delivered by my local dealer. Samsung's packing materials for this large, heavy TV are inadequate. The resulting breakage is a waste of resources and a bad customer experience.

2. Overall picture quality: Very good right out of the box but definitely needs a full calilbration. I'm pretty happy with it so far.

3. Buzzing: Not noticeable.

4. IR: None yet, but I'm being very conservative.

5. Dead pixels: Haven't seen any.

6. Black levels: Very good - dark, stable, low noise (haven't measured yet).

7. 3D: Absolutely the best I have ever seen. (And I've seen many TV and PC active shutter set-ups.)

8. Horizontal line bleed: Faint but noticeable on high contrast objects against a bright background. The bleed is visible regardless of contrast, cell light, brightness settings. It's not bad enough to return the TV but it's annoying once you know what to look for.

Questions about the line bleed problem:

(1) Do all these TVs have the problem? On this one, rows of black text against a white background will repro the problem every time. It's faint but definitely there.

(2) Does anyone have a guess as to the root cause?

I see the line bleed as you mention - haven't found a way to reduce it
post #1562 of 5875
Nor have I. On my set, though, it's only noticeable when there is an external menu on the screen (TV info bar, Comcast menu boxes, etc...).
post #1563 of 5875
Does the c8000 plasma have Component Video Inputs??
on the best buy site it said it dont but howcan this tv not have Component Video Inputs
post #1564 of 5875
I've only noticed it during closing credits of a movie so far - and only if I look really hard. From what I've read, though, I've learned that line bleed is a problem with plasma technology that most if not all sets have to some extent.
post #1565 of 5875
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Originally Posted by tazz3 View Post

Does the c8000 plasma have Component Video Inputs??
on the best buy site it said it dont but howcan this tv not have Component Video Inputs

I know it has at least one set of component video inputs (I have my Wii hooked up with component cables). I thought it just had the one set. However, when I go online and look at the Samsung page for my set, it says it has two rear component video inputs. I don't remember seeing the additional inputs. Of course, it also lists the HDMI inputs as three in the back and one on the side (which isn't true, they're all right in a row), so it might just be incorrect information on their page.
post #1566 of 5875
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Originally Posted by BartleyR7 View Post

I know it has at least one set of component video inputs (I have my Wii hooked up with component cables). I thought it just had the one set. However, when I go online and look at the Samsung page for my set, it says it has two rear component video inputs. I don't remember seeing the additional inputs. Of course, it also lists the HDMI inputs as three in the back and one on the side (which isn't true, they're all right in a row), so it might just be incorrect information on their page.

There's only one set on the back of my 8000, and there is is only one composite video, which to me unusually shares the component input. I think the green on the component is also the component input (yellow).
post #1567 of 5875
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Originally Posted by PExeter View Post

There's only one set on the back of my 8000, and there is is only one composite video, which to me unusually shares the component input. I think the green on the component is also the component input (yellow).

I believe you're right about the sharing of composite with the component input. I looked at the 8000 user manual online, and it only shows one component input (which can also be used as composite). With the advent of downloadable games and the VC on the Wii, I haven't had to hook-up my NES, SNES, N64, or 7800 in a while. So I haven't used composite inputs for quite some time.
post #1568 of 5875
I am moving, and my tv has become one of the biggest concerns. Are there any specialized movers for these type of tvs? I still have the original box. I was thinking to get a pod for the move but i am not sure how good solution can be
post #1569 of 5875
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Originally Posted by bfocussvt View Post

Nor have I. On my set, though, it's only noticeable when there is an external menu on the screen (TV info bar, Comcast menu boxes, etc...).

same as mine, it really faint.
I did read other forum or review site that says other brand also having the same problem. I am not sure if it's true or not.
post #1570 of 5875
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Originally Posted by iwanthdnow View Post

I am moving, and my tv has become one of the biggest concerns. Are there any specialized movers for these type of tvs? I still have the original box. I was thinking to get a pod for the move but i am not sure how good solution can be

When the mag store come to pick up my bad TV, they put it back on the original box and just put it back to their van, standing up. They said plasma has to be stand up but LCD is ok to lay it flat.
When I pick up my old LCD and during moving, I lay it flat inside it's original box and seems to be OK.
Guess it's not ok for plasma probably because of the glass and the phosphor
post #1571 of 5875
I've been everywhere looking for a fix to the "Vapor Effect" or the "Ghosting, Artifacts" around the borders of moving objects with the MJC on but to no avail! I love the realistic "soap opera" look of it, and besides, I thought PLASMAS were supposed to handle movement better anyway? This movement sucks for a $2k + set.

I've contacted Samsung and they are refusing to help with the issue..and by the way..good luck when talking to them while trying to speak to someone that actualy knows the product, they are 100% phone reps, not techs, no matter which "level" of service you're speaking with. Just terrible! They will keep refering you to the "local tech" that knows absolutey jack $#!t about the products either. I'm begining to think that if you like the soap opera effect like I do, this plasma is the wrong way to go..gettin buyers remorse..
post #1572 of 5875
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Originally Posted by BigRoc View Post

I've been everywhere looking for a fix to the "Vapor Effect" or the "Ghosting, Artifacts" around the borders of moving objects with the MJC on but to no avail!

That's because there is no fix. (Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.)
post #1573 of 5875
After learning about Plasma technology with the help of all the kind knowledgeable people on this forum I picked up my first PDP today, a PNC638000.

Other than a horrible buzzing noise that I have commented about on a different appropriate thread, I noticed that a green LED if flashing on one of the internal boards that you can see through some of holes on the back of the panel near the bottom portion where the power cord comes out. If anyone else can please check their unit and let me know if you see this I would appreciate it. I can't imagine it would be normal as it seems like it would be some kind of diagnostic LED. I asked Samsung about this but they couldn't find any information.

Thanks!
post #1574 of 5875
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

fter learning about Plasma technology with the help of all the kind knowledgeable people on this forum I picked up my first PDP today, a PNC638000.

Other than a horrible buzzing noise that I have commented about on a different appropriate thread, I noticed that a green LED if flashing on one of the internal boards that you can see through some of holes on the back of the panel near the bottom portion where the power cord comes out. If anyone else can please check their unit and let me know if you see this I would appreciate it. I can't imagine it would be normal as it seems like it would be some kind of diagnostic LED. I asked Samsung about this but they couldn't find any information.

Thanks!

Yes it's normal. It was on my SamsungB860, and on my 58C8000. I don't know what it is, but it's there.
post #1575 of 5875
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Originally Posted by ElectronicTonic View Post

Yes it's normal. It was on my SamsungB860, and on my 58C8000. I don't know what it is, but it's there.

Thanks for letting my know! Now hopefully the buzzing on my unit will quiet down after some use as others have reported.
post #1576 of 5875
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Originally Posted by tazz3 View Post

Does the c8000 plasma have Component Video Inputs??
on the best buy site it said it dont but howcan this tv not have Component Video Inputs

There's at least one for sure. If you run things through your receiver you get two to three more component inputs.
post #1577 of 5875
For those who have mounted their TV on the wall, how did you go about removing the stand? As far as I can tell in the instruction manual, it just says to "remove it" and "insert the blank." Did you lay your set face-down on something soft, or did you get someone (or multiple people) to hold the set?

I'm planning to mount my 58C8000 sometime over the next few days, and I was wondering about the best way to get the stand off of it without damaging the set. I thought I read, at one point in the past, that you weren't supposed to lay a plasma set down. Is that true, or am I just making that up?
post #1578 of 5875
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Originally Posted by BartleyR7 View Post

For those who have mounted their TV on the wall, how did you go about removing the stand? As far as I can tell in the instruction manual, it just says to "remove it" and "insert the blank." Did you lay your set face-down on something soft, or did you get someone (or multiple people) to hold the set?

I'm planning to mount my 58C8000 sometime over the next few days, and I was wondering about the best way to get the stand off of it without damaging the set. I thought I read, at one point in the past, that you weren't supposed to lay a plasma set down. Is that true, or am I just making that up?

I had 2 people hold the set, while I removed the stand. It wasn't the easiest task, so I recommend at least 2 other people to help. I didn't want to have to lay the TV flat.
I also have the 58".
post #1579 of 5875
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Originally Posted by ElectronicTonic View Post

I had 2 people hold the set, while I removed the stand. It wasn't the easiest task, so I recommend at least 2 other people to help. I didn't want to have to lay the TV flat.
I also have the 58".

I have the 63" and it was pretty tough to get the stand off. I took out all the screws and even some I think had nothing to do with the stand, lol, and it would not come off. Eventually me holding the tv up off the couch and my wife tugging at the stand got it to come off though.
post #1580 of 5875
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Originally Posted by PExeter View Post

I have the 63" and it was pretty tough to get the stand off. I took out all the screws and even some I think had nothing to do with the stand, lol, and it would not come off. Eventually me holding the tv up off the couch and my wife tugging at the stand got it to come off though.

I had a tough time too - just me and my wife. If you can, I recommend 3 people; 2 to hold the TV and one to remove it.
After the screws are out, there are still internal plastic lugs that need to be negotiated.
post #1581 of 5875
You guys think it is too dangerous to lay down on the end of a covered flat surface (using beach towels or such) and then remove the stand? This is what I did with a 55" LCD but of course it was much lighter.
post #1582 of 5875
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

You guys think it is too dangerous to lay down on the end of a covered flat surface (using beach towels or such) and then remove the stand? This is what I did with a 55" LCD but of course it was much lighter.

With towels or blankets it will be fine.
post #1583 of 5875
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

You guys think it is too dangerous to lay down on the end of a covered flat surface (using beach towels or such) and then remove the stand? This is what I did with a 55" LCD but of course it was much lighter.

It should be fine that way. I would just make sure it is placed and lifted up at the same time otherwise the panel/glass would flex.
post #1584 of 5875
Thanks for your input guys! I assumed this would be OK but when people started talking about having two people hold the TV while one takes of the stand it had me worried. Keeping my fingers crossed that my new unit won't have such a loud buzzing noise!
post #1585 of 5875
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

Thanks for your input guys! I assumed this would be OK but when people started talking about having two people hold the TV while one takes of the stand it had me worried. Keeping my fingers crossed that my new unit won't have such a loud buzzing noise!

After removing the screws you need to tilt the top of the display forward to disengage the retaining tabs and the stand comes right off. The directions in the user manual have arrows indicating that you must tilt the panel forward but it should explain this better.
post #1586 of 5875
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

After removing the screws you need to tilt the top of the display forward to disengage the retaining tabs and the stand comes right off. The directions in the user manual have arrows indicating that you must tilt the panel forward but it should explain this better.

Thanks for the tip. Where were you when I took the stand off?
post #1587 of 5875
Finally got my 58" C8000 mounted on the wall. I took some really quick shots with my phone (apologies for the mess). I'm looking in to options to hide the cords. I might get one of those things that goes on the wall that you can paint over. For now, the cords aren't bothering me too much. I purchased a wall grommet kit, but thought that since the cord run was so short it wasn't necessary.

I will say that getting the stand off the TV was a challenge. In fact, it was the most difficult part of the whole process. I'm probably overly cautious, but I didn't want to lay it down. There were three of us, so two of us held it while the other removed the stand. It definitely helps to tilt the TV slightly forward to release those plastic tabs (one on each side of the stand attachment). Once that was off, it was super easy to just place it on the wall. I used the Sanus mount (VMBL3-B) with the tilting brackets. It was super easy to mount and is rock solid. I attached the brackets to the TV while it was still on the stand. Removing it from the stand, inserting the blank, and hanging it on the wall were the last things I did.
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post #1588 of 5875
Thanks for all the tips on removing the stand guys! I'm going to mount my PN63C800 with the Samsung Ultra Thin Wall Mount. Is there any type of risk involved with all the heat being so close to a painted wall? Thanks again!
post #1589 of 5875
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Originally Posted by el pablo View Post

Thanks for all the tips on removing the stand guys! I'm going to mount my PN63C800 with the Samsung Ultra Thin Wall Mount. Is there any type of risk involved with all the heat being so close to a painted wall? Thanks again!

I'm not aware of any such risk, and I don't believe there is any. Most of the heat from mine seems to come from the top anyway.
post #1590 of 5875
Anyone else using the "remote" app? I installed the free app for an iPad and it works well. I haven't used the samsung Internet apps much and found entering text to be a pain. This app allows you to enter text via the iPad keyboard. Navigating any menu is quite nice using the app also.
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