*The Official Samsung PNxxC8000 Owner's Discussion Thread!! - Page 89

My PN58C8000 wants to update the internet@TV but it'll just sit their on MLB.tv (or what ever it is) and doesn't finish. Anyone else experiencing this?

This is a long-shot but any chance your router firmware is old? I had some nasty intermittent problems with streaming video and dowloads and such before I upgraded mine recently.

I hope you can resolve the black issues. FWIW, I'm 100% thrilled with my set (PN63C8000) so far. I paid quite a bit more $ to get it from Best Buy fully expecting to have buzzing or other issues and wanted BB's no questions asked return policy. At this point I'd return this set over my dead body -- the picture is great, no buzzing, minimal line bleed and even the speakers are fine. I'm not a hard-core videophile but I can't imagine a better picture being possible -- I've even been doing a lot of watching from around 8 feet away lately (finishing up some painting in the room) and the picture looks fine from that distance. The blacks in the CAL-DAY mode that I calibrated (somewhat prematurely) look about as black as they could be to my untrained eye. My set for the last 6 years has been a 40" Sony CRT and the picture on the Samsung is at least as good as that is IMO (which is probably saying a lot -- those CRTs probably had the best PQ of any set made to date).

Any chance you could look at one in a nearby store to compare with yours (keeping in mind that you might need to muck with the settings a bit in the store to get a good idea of things)...?

Yes, My 63" is doing the exact same thing. I just received the TV on Friday and have tried on a half dozen occasions to get this update to complete. Is there a way to prevent the auto updating of this widget. I have not found a way and it currently renders the internet@TV feature useless and I always get the MLB update message/initiation.
BTW I just upgraded to a wireless N Netgear router, although I am hardwired into my network. So my router is fresh with the most recent firmware.

I have had my 63c8000 for about 4 days. I have calibrated it using the CNET settings on Movie mode and another set on CAL-DAY. To my eye, the color fidelity is outstanding and the overall picture is beautiful.

Not only are my blacks deep enough, on the CNET settings (and the other set) the deepest black objects get crushed. The folds of a black suit jacket, the detail in black hair, the shadows of a dark room, etc. This is true on the HD cable STB and the BD player source.

My question is, if CNET says these are the best settings they could tweak on the set, is this the best I can get on my TV? I know this is a great problem to have and the opposite of what most people are searching for a "solution" to. The blacks are BLACK on this TV. I don't want to sound like I am complaining here. I am curious how CNET got to these settings for black level. Maybe the difference between the 63 and the smaller set they used??

Normally, I would just adjust the brightness up and be done, but there are literally 100s of setting combinations I could make. I don't know if brightness is the best option, or some other calibration setting(s) would be better to bring out the shadow detail.

Your advice is welcome.

I had the MLB update problem all day yesterday, but it stopped today. I was able to get to any app and start it if I acted quickly, before the update pop-up appeared. Hopefully Samsung has already fixed or is fixing the issue.

Mine was built in Mexico in September 2010.

I'm about to mount this thing on the wall today and realized while the back is flat, it's not perfectly flat. For the others who have mounted it, did you use the instructions for curved backed TV's or flat backed TV's? I guess I'm mounting it as a curved back TV so I don't unnecessarily bend the the screen.

I totally agree here about the speakers. This forum had me freaking out about the speakers on this thin set. I was all ready to prematurely invest in a sound bar (in addition to the surround sound) for the first time in my life. Now that I have the TV sitting in my condo, the sound is more than enough for the room and it's clear too. It's certainly not any worse than a regular CRT or DLP set.

CNET calibrated their set and only their set. Even another 50" set can require different settings to be properly calibrated. (e.g., I saw quite a bit of variance among the four 50" panels I've gone through.) So even though someone may provide the settings they used as a reference, it's only a starting point (at best) for your own TV. To get your own TV right, I would suggest setting the brightness, contrast, gamma, color, tint, and cell light first. Then set the white balance for a reasonably accurate grayscale. Then set the color space to your liking. Then go back and check your color, tint, brightness, contrast, and gamma settings to make sure blacks and whites aren't being crushed and what not.

If you don't want to go through all that and just want to improve shadow detail, then I suggest getting the AVS HD 709 calibration DVD from these forums, go through the basic calibration test screens in the top two positions of the main menu, and adjust the brightness and contrast for the darkest blacks/grays and the gamma for the darkest reds/greens/blues. Or, for a quick adjustment, just use the images you were talking about earlier (that show crushed blacks) and adjust these three settings for them.

To put it simply, the gamma setting adjustment will keep you from having to elevate brightness too much, and so keep your blacks as black as possible.

Someone else might be able to provide a better recommendation than that. But this is what I've been doing, given that I don't have the tools to accurately calibrate my TV. The very best results would come from a professional calibration of your TV by people who are certified and are willing to adjust anything and everything on your TV (i.e., not Best Buy's Geek Squad, according to what I've read on these forums).

Hope that's helpful to you.

Yes, I have had the same issue for the past two days.

I had the same problem. I contacted support via the chat and they had me do a full reset. Of course this loses all settings etc. Quite a PIA. I hope it doesn't happen again. And wouldn't you know, I still don't have a MLB.tv app, not that I wanted it.

To do a reset, turn the tv on, then press the exit key on the remote for about 15 seconds and a prompt will appear offering a reset choice.

Internet@TV's working for me now, I guess Samsung found their was a problem.

"Simply reset the TV.. then call your ISF tech again, and open your bank account. All fixed!"

Can someone elaborate for me please?

Does the 63" have a better mll than the 58"?

I ran the 63 on it's own speakers for a couple of weeks until I installed it on the wall and connected it to the 5.1. The internal speakers sounded about as good as any I've heard and fine for many applications. Obviously it's not HT, but I don't get the criticism. Yes, I wish the set came with a human orchestra and announcers, etc., but since I had it delivered to planet Earth in the real world, I accept that it doesn't.

Relative to calibration, I agree the CNET settings are useful but weren't designed for my room. Good points are made in the above posts about dealing with that. But have some fun and try trusting your eyes too. If they can't find the solution with some tweaking, I question whether the nuances of subtle callibration matter for that viewer.

Before delivery, this thread really had me questioning whether I'd decided on the right set. I acknowledge I may have been lucky not having transportation damage or buzzing, but guys, if you can't fully enjoy this set, address your larger issues.

I used for curved back. But I did go to HD and pick up new spacers. The ones that came with my mount were too big.. You only need 1/4" spacers.

I'm strongly thinking of going with another TV, this PN58C8000 is driving me up the wall. I can't enjoy any content with the buzz, and the blacks are mediocre. I'm think of the LG 60PK950 (plasma) or possibly LG 55LE8500 (Full LED w/ local dimming). If neither of those pan out I might go with the ugly Panasonic VT25...

This is to update on the 3rd delivery attempt from US Appliance.

Just received the TV from HomedirectUSA (SelectExpress is the local agent). The box arrived in fairly poor shape with the middle of the box dented on the top. I was quite worried. But upon opening, there were TONS and TONS of bubble wrap in the front & back of the tv (in the entire box). The tv screen arrived without any cracks (thanks to US Appliance customer service asking the shipping manager to pack it "extra carefully". SelectExpress agent helped me put it on my TV stand. Hooked it up, screen turned on just fine!

I want to thank US Appliance to continue to work with me with their excellent customer service to deliver the tv to me! Thanks!

The few things I notices are:

1) I do notice the slight buzzing sound that others in AVS have mentioned. The buzzing is definitely noticeable when you are next to the tv with the volume on mute, but once you turn on the volume to say 5-10, it's not really that noticeable.

2) The USB ports are HORRIBLE. They arrived with the bottom pin slightly bent so that USB drives will actually catch and not go in. I realized this after the bottom pins were already bent. I had to take a flat head screw to bend it back so that it would insert. After "fixing" it myself, it's working fine now. Still not going in as smooth, but just have to be a bit careful in inserting.

3) The Ferrule arrived broken into 2 pieces. Will call samsung for a replacement.

Other than that, I am happy to say that I am a new owner of the PN63C8000 unit!! I have tested it with 2D-3D using a Sony Blu-Ray playing Transformer 2, looks great. Haven't had a chance to calibrate it yet, it's currently running through the burn-in slides.

I am so relieved the 3rd tv is not cracked....

Just got my 63C8000 from one call and the screen is shattered. They are shipping out another one today. The box looked very good and the shock watch was not activated. The foam inside the box was broken though. It did not arrive on a pallet. The delivery guy had it laying flat in the back of a full size van.

Sorry to hear that. Where is the shock watch? I didn't even see it on any of the boxes I received.

The shock watch was on the bottom right of the front face of the box. There was tape all around the top of the box stating shock watch. The carrier never saw one before.

I think you should do it. Get rid of the c8000 and get the Panasonic over the Goldstar.

Is a jittery scrolling ticker (ESPN/CNBC) a problem with the TV or a source signal? I tried replacing my cable box, and still am experiencing jittery when viewing scrolling text from right to left.

If I record a show, and still see it in the recording, what does that tell me?

If you haven't already tried:
Picture options---> Film mode --> set OFF (auto 2 may also work)
Also disable soap opera effect --> motion judder canceller to OFF

Interesting find for europeans/aussies: Film mode setting Auto1 doesn't work on 50Hz signals -film or video. Don't know about auto2 though?

I made the purchase today and the 50" will be delivered on Wednesday! I'm happy and nervous. I'm upgrading from a Samsung 46" LCD LN-46A650 that I've really enjoyed.

Few questions...
1. What settings do I use for break-in slides?
2. Is there a suggested settings for after break-in anywhere?
3. Any other tips?

Please tell me how I can fix this!

I have this showing up on my PN58B850 plasma tv:

I think you enabled store demo mode.

How do i fix it?

When the TV is initially powered on, a sequence of on-screen prompts will assist in configuring basic settings. Press the POWER button. Plug & Play is available only when the Input source is set to TV.
✎✎To return to the previous step, press the Red button.
1 Selecting a language Press the ▲ or ▼ button, then press the ENTER button.
Select the desired OSD (On Screen Display) language. POWER
1 Selecting a language Press the ▲ or ▼ button, then press the ENTER button.
Select the desired OSD (On Screen Display) language. POWER
2 Selecting Store Demo INFO or Home Use
Press the ◄ or ► button, then press the ENTER button.
Select the Home Use mode. Store Demo Mode is for retail
environments.
To return the unit’s settings from Store Demo to Home Use
(standard): Press the volume button on the TV. When you
see the volume OSD, press and hold MENU for 5 sec.
3 Selecting an antenna Press the ▲ or ▼ button, then press the ENTER button. Select Air, Cable or Auto.

From the manual on page 8.

Thank you!!!

After MONTHS of reading this thread, I'm proud to finally declare I am an owner of a pn50c8000 (pause for applause), or will be as of Wednesday when it is actually delivered.
I am now searching for a wall mount that will work well. I plan to use the HDMI ARC input, Ethernet input and Antenna input, leaving me with four total cords including the power cord.
I like the looks of the Sanus LL11, but at only .55" of clearance I wonder if there will be a problem with pinched cords that would place stress on the connections.
Does anyone here use the LL11 with success or can anyone recommend another mount that works well with the 50c8000?
Thanks in advance.