*The Official Samsung PNxxC8000 Owner's Discussion Thread!! - Page 103

rdv,
that seems WAAAAY over my head. I was looking for something more like the CNET settings, but that my be fine tuned a little more to a specific persons liking...

Do you guys think the free 3D bluray player and glassed kit will still be available in January? Amazon lists Dec. 4th ending.

The reason is that my living room isn't quite ready for the PN63C8000 yet, and i'm traveling for most of December, I figure mid January before I can even hang the TV.

So should I jump on the great pricing at US-Appliance now, or wait 6 weeks to see if pricing gets better, plus see what gets announced at CES? I wouldn't want to miss out on the free 3DB bluray and glasses, figure that's worth $400 or so.

Thanks in advance!

Update: I tried the Tenda W311U wireless USB adapter and as anticipated it didn't work. In fact it wasn't even close to working. For instance the option for Wireless connection type wasn't even available in the menu. I didn't think this would work but after someone mentioned that another USB dongle worked besides the Samsung one I thought I'd give it a try anyway.

Hi

With my new PN63C8000; I hear a lot of hissing & popping from my external speakers (connected to a AR; not fed through TV). You can hear it only of sound is in mute & also when TV is off. With my old LCD I never had any such problems. Is that normal with plasmas or do I need to replace cables and/or AR?

What makes you think the TV has anything to do with this, given that it happens when the TV is *off*?

You need to do some more diagnosis. UNPLUG the TV, is it still there? UNPLUG the HDMI cable to the TV, is it still there? What happens if you switch sources?

My guess would be a bad/loose input cable or connector to the receiver. Could be the receiver itself (or a connector on it.) Keep in mind that the HDMI cable to the TV can be an input (ARC or Audio Return Channel) depending on settings on the receiver and TV.

You figured wrong. I paid $160 for mine.

Didn't know they were giving away the kit with the plasma 8000 now. They weren't when I got mine, but the $160 I paid plus the $1400 for the (50") TV was way less than retail on just the TV.

You'll be doing a "burn-in" alright! After a year or so of using it as a computer monitor!

My take on "burn in" is that it's more to quickly get past initial phosphor aging and get the colors settled-in prior to calibration than it is any kind of preventative measure.

Ever been in a trading room with CRTs, or glanced at the CRTs at the airport (back when they had CRTs?)

I don't see how it's avoidable, other than by varying your viewing habits or running the scrolling bars daily. You'd probably need to run them for at least as many hours as you use it for a computer display daily.

How many hours a day do you plan on using it as a monitor? And for what, exactly?

This TV has considerable short-term IR which can be scary when you first see it, but is nothing to be concerned with. EVERY time you access a menu or view a news show, etc. - even for a very short time - you are going to subsequently see the short-term IR. It will go away after just a few minutes of movie viewing or scrolling bars.

But this alone - even though it's not really "damaging" to the panel - is enough to make it unsuitable as a computer monitor. The short-term IR is just gonna drive you nuts. It's certainly not going to be suitable for any kind of critical image or video editing, for example, because you're going to be seeing desktop icons everywhere. I find this is most noticeable on a light-gray screen. It's generally not noticeable, though, during normal viewing of moving images such as a movie or TV show.

The longer-term issue is uneven aging of the phosphors. You need to do a calculation based on the panel's specs (how many hours to half-brightness?) vs. your daily viewing hours vs. how much IR you are willing to tolerate.

Dunno if this is commonly done, but it might be useful to make a negative image of your desktop and run it for a couple hours a day.

Hey, what a great screensaver idea! How about a screensaver that snoops on the desktop and keeps track of the amount of time that static images are displayed during use, and then proportionally plays negative images of the static images when in screen-saver mode?

Only that that this hissing & popping wasn't there when I was using my LCD.

Not having owned a plasma before; I didn't know if this was something expected or not; based on your answer it isn't.

Just like you said it is debugging time for me; probably a cable became loose. Now I have to move the components again and find my way through the dreaded cable forest; not something I am looking forward to!

Thanks for your reply.

I've been looking at the same deal for the 63". It is the cheapest this tv has been bundled on the net yet. I went to BB and they wouldn't even come close to the price.

Update- I went to another best buy and they were willing to come very close to this price, they also threw in the wireless adapter towards the bundle.

Delaying delivery might be an option.

I pulled the trigger on a 58" at Amazon last week and scheduled delivery for next week. I was worried about price fluctuations and I wanted to make a decision and stop over-thinking which set to get. (And I wasn't going to be home to test the set.)

Not that I'm an industry insider or anything, but I wouldn't count on the "free" stuff to be available past the stated end-date. That's why they have a stated end-date.

do you guys think that ghosting of 3d content can differ between same model but different sets. ive had 3 sets of pn63c8000 and i dont remember the ghosting being noticable on my first two. although i had firmware 1019 on first 2 and went to 1026 on 3rd one and upgraded yesterday to 1032.

jtara,
Although I have never used a plasma as a computer-monitor before I did use a 57" HDTV Rear projector as a computer monitor for over 7 years with no burn in.

I will not be using the "fit screen" option except for watching videos/TV and will use the features that shift the pixels horizontally and vertically to their maximum (overscan). My old Rear-projector TV did that.

My PC themes are mainly black with low contrast text colors. I also use two settings (1) a computer monitor mode that has low contrast and brightness (2) a video mode that has regular contrast and brightness. It is set so that the PC automatically changes the settings depending on what is being displayed. The side benefit of the computer monitor settings are that they reduce eye strain.

If you check the manual for the C8000 the HDMI #1 connection is specified as the HDMI connection for PC's. I will be using a DVI<->HDMI cable.

In this thread more than one person has connected their PC for gaming to their C8000.

In the end you may be correct but I have some experience and will be taking the precautions described above. I may also need to daily use the C8000 wipe feature. I will be watching this situation closely.

Thanks for your input.

Doug

I recall reading that the HDMI to HDMI upscaling is limited to a few input resolutions and now I can't find that source...

I have a Tivo HD that offers 1080i and component out. Will the PN638000 deinterlace the 1080i to 1080p offering a better impage than the upscaling of the component outs?

My plasma is not here yet so I would value some insights here.

Thanks

Funny, I have an 8-year old 57" Hitachi set that I want to replace as well. My biggest concern is glare. I have a window that's at a perfect angle from my recliner to see it reflected in the TV. It's not too bad on my Hitachi, but I'm wondering how good the newest plasmas are at dealing with glare...

i'm eagerly awaiting my 63c8000 delivery this thursday. i was just looking online to see which 3d bluray disks are available for purchase. i started talking with my wife and decided to open the 3d starter kit i got with my tv (i carried the starter kit and bluray player home from BB, the tv is getting delivered).

am i the only person who didn't read the box of the starter kit? i assumed the How To Train Your Dragon disk was included. no, there's a voucher. ok - pick up in store? no, register online. ok - ships in a week or 2? no, 10 to 12 weeks for delivery (according to the website).

SERIOUSLY?!


that insane. i'm so pissed. does anyone have any comments about how long these voucher redemptions actually take? i'm hoping the website is being very conservative. i haven't waited 3 months for a mail-order item since i was 6yrs old ordering sea-monkeys out of the back of magazines. welcome to 1985

Ha! I didn't read that either until your post. I ordered from Amazon last week and my kit is on back order until after Christmas. So that's when I can start waiting!

Sounds like our 57s700 (or 500). That's 3 of us.

I got mine less than a week after using the voucher online....

I have the 57XWX20B. Great TV, still works fine. Just ready for something new!

Relax... Francis. (Homage to one of the greatest movies of all time, Stripes)

The HTTYD disc comes in about a week after sending your voucher in.

E.

+1...I got mine in a week.

+2 ... Yup, mine also came in a week

I had been looking at LCD's (Sony and Samsung8000) After viewing the plasma's in the stores, I must say I was impressed with the Sammy's 8000 plasma vs. the lcd. Even more by the Consumer's and CNET review.

My previous Sony TV had PIP and I loved using it. However, what was once simple to connect seems so complicated.

Can anyone tell me if they are using Sammy's PIP and how you must connect it? The salesmen in the stores didn't know because they said no one asks for it anymore!

Thanks!


Rose

I am pretty sure you can as long as you have two different sources. I would call Samsung to verify as not many are using it anymore I have not had anyone ask me about it for a while, and you did the right thing by looking for yourself as thats who is going to be enjoying your unit

im in a similar boat

for what its worth, a few other places list the end date as 12/4 as well (ABT for instance) but Samsung's website seems to indicate it expires on 12/31...

im going to try my luck getting amazon to PM tomorrow AM and if not I think ill pull the US appliance trigger assuming theyll still do BF price

+3 Same here, I was pleasantly surprised when I checked the mail..

Is this US appliance an authorized dealer? Is their deal that great over amazon, can someone maybe PM (leave msg on my account) me the details.

I wonder if they are legit and will not do bait/switch last minute or ask you if you want accessories like $150 cables and then when you say no the TV is all of a sudden out of stock. I ran into too many of these - the price is too good to be true and it usually is. Amazon being the exception.

Anyone hear every by those open box warehouse ones Amazon sells? Wonder if these are not sometimes a good set but someone did not like the picture. They still have 30 day return on them and I believe manf warranty.

Anyone here order and receive their unit from US Appliance? Any issues with the process?

US Appliance is an authorized Samsung dealer. There are many over at slickdeals who bought from them and I haven't heard any complaints. In fact, I was impressed that US Appliance has an account on slickdeals and was personally helping people & answering their questions.

That being said, I bought mine from Amazon and had them match US Appliance's price. Most people don't know this but Amazon will match prices on TV's. And in this case they will match the price of the bundle with BRD player & starter kit.

Question for anyone with a 63C8000 that's on a stand...

Can you measure the distance between the stand and the bottom of the picture (the actual picture not the bezel)? I'm trying to figure out if I can put my center channel speaker on the stand in front of the TV without obstructing the picture.

Thanks!