*The Official Samsung PNxxC8000 Owner's Discussion Thread!! - Page 109

Originally Posted by XxHoosierdaddy

Is the black level good enough, to where you don't notice letterbox bars unless you try to look at them?

Originally Posted by DViper2399

If anyone has good settings for 3D, game mode or anything in particular please share or direct us where to find them. Btw my set is the PN58C8000

Originally Posted by XxDBENCxX

Sharpness - 50

Originally Posted by gumbaz

Im interested in getting the PN63C8000 for use as a PC Monitor/TV and was wondering if any of you guys have done the same..?

How does the PC image quality look when displayed on this TV..?
Is it sharp & crisp or dull & blurry..?
Does this TV have 1:1 Pixel matching..?
what kinda precautions would be necessary to prevent IR when using this TV as a PC monitor..?

Anybody have any pictures to show how the image quality looks when hooked up to a PC VIA either HDMI or PC input..?

When I saw this TV at BestBuy I noticed some sparkly/staticy artifacts all over the picture from this TV up close, and was wondering if thats normal for this TV or if maybe it was just a bad video quality source that they had running on the Display when I saw it..

Originally Posted by Cbenioff

Where can I find the manufacture date?

Originally Posted by thezman

been a while since posting due to more surgery and still plasma less... lol i think im about to pick up the 63" but wanted to know how many people have had bad pixels either dead or stuck? i know it can happen to any set but during my time away i bought 2 60" lg's and one had 3 stuck pixels and the other had 2 totally dead and 2 stuck ones for a total of 4 right out of the box.. they both went back. no way a tv this price (or any for that matter imo) should have those. so whats the luck like on these?

i bought the lg set due to the crazy price i was offerred locally on the 3d version but between the glare on the screen and the pixels i decided not to try a third and the blacks were not great (imo) anyway on the lg compared to the panny or even samsungs i have watched.

i know its luck as i said but can anyone chime in if you have had this problem or not out of the box? just trying to determine if i should take the chance and get one online or not. huge price difference from buying locally.

thank you

Originally Posted by alanl715

Got a Sammie 63c8000 and when I connect via HDMI from my DTV hr24 directly to the set with 'high speed' HDMI cables, the 3D on ch103 is great. When I hook the DTV box into my Integra dtr-40.2 1.4/3d compatible receiver using 'high speed' cables from the box to the Integra, I get a out of focus split screen effect. My Sammie 3D bluray going thru the Integra is fine on 3D movies.

Anyone else encounter this ?

Alan

Originally Posted by alanl715

i believe there is a FW bull on these new plasmas...call 1800samsung and they'll tell u.

Originally Posted by gumbaz

Im interested in getting the PN63C8000 for use as a PC Monitor/TV and was wondering if any of you guys have done the same..? ...

Originally Posted by seattlepir8

-- Otherwise, you may not be able to enjoy proper 3D
effects. The ideal viewing distance should be three times or more the height of the screen. We recommend sitting with viewer's eyes on a level with the screen."

Originally Posted by rdv

I own a PN58C8000 as of Nov 30Th 2010 and also intend to use the TV as a PC monitor. In an earlier post someone was warning me off, basically stating that IR (Image Retention) from the PC's menus would be too distracting for everyday use. I have not had these IR issues with my very limit PC monitor trails.

For 7yrs I used a 57" Rear projector HDTV as an everyday computer monitor and HDPC. There was never any burn-in with that HDTV and I used it for more hours as a PC monitor (programming) than as a HDTV for entertainment.

You asked: How does the PC image quality look when displayed on this TV..? Is it sharp & crisp or dull & blurry..?
Answer: I have the PN58C8000 attached to my PC via a DVI<->HDMI cable (attached to the TV's HDMI#1 connector). Resolution of 1920x1080p at 60Hz and it is crystal clear. Far superior to the rear projector HDTV which was only capable of 1920x1080i at 30Hz (component connected).

You asked: Does this TV have 1:1 Pixel matching..?
Answer: Yes the feature is called "Screen fit" but you cannot use it when attached via a DVI<->HDMI capable. You only get the 16:9 and 4:3 screen options. The good news is that 16:9 has no over scan so you get the 1:1 Pixel matching. I verified this using a 1920x1080 test image made specifically to check for over scan.

You asked: What kinda precautions would be necessary to prevent IR when using this TV as a PC monitor..?
Answer: I take several precautions.
1) Use burn-in slides for at least 100+ hours. My #1 worry with a plasma is burn-in. I am currently running burn-in slides to try to protect against burn-in due to PC monitor use. By Dec 7Th I will have achieved 100+ hours of burn-in time and will start using it as an everyday computer monitor. Beware that my answers to your questions are premature to whether long term use will cause burn-in/IR issues or not. Also some of my precautions are based solely my success with a Rear-projector HDTV.
Burn-In slides: http://www.webapalooza.com/plasma/index.php

2) Use dark/black computer themes (see attached images). I also recommend dark themes to reduce eye strain. I even use custom override Web page colors in my browser. Firefox has a plug-in called "ToggleUseDocColors" to toggle between your override colors and the Web page's intended colors.

3) Use two customized HDTV screen configurations:
a) "Movie" is used when I am playing video content from my HDPC software. These settings try to match what I have set for viewing TV from cable. I altered the default "Movie" settings to match the CNET settings that I like for Cable TV. Then I made additional changes as those settings are great for Cable TV but were too saturated for the PC's input. Note when attached with a DVI<->HDMI cable some of the settings are greyed out so you cannot exactly match the CNET settings. http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-500232.html
b) "Standard" is used when TV is acting as a PC monitor. I significantly lowered "Cell light(10)", "Contrast(53)" and "Brightness(25)". Also turned on the "Pixel Shift" feature (4 horizontal and 4 vertical every 10 min).
c) With the TV remote press "Tools" and you can switch between the two settings in 4 key strokes. Switching between screen configurations is very easy.
d) I used the AVS HD 709 calibration MPG videos and instructions but still made adjustments as I felt the PC images where still a little saturated. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

4) When a PC attached via a DVI<->HDMI cable is powered up you will not see the BIOS boot up or any screens less than 1920x1080, so I am also attaching a VGA cable to the PC VGA input of the TV. I have not done this yet but I expect that at some time I will need to see and change BIOS settings or see a boot up error which displays before the 1920x1080 signal is generated. Luckily my graphics card has two DVI connections.

5) I intend to regularly use the TV's built in wipe function to clear up any IR images. I do not know how regularly or for how long.

PC details:
a) Hardware: Intel Quad core, and an old NVidia 8600 GTS
b) OS: Ubuntu 10.10, VDPAU graphics driver v256.x
c) HDPC: Mythtv 0.24 (Mythbuntu debs) with a Hauppauge HD-PVR for Network TV recordings.'

Images:
NOTE: These images being compressed jpgs make any text appear blurry. This is not the case with the actual display which is sharp and clear.

Empty Desktop:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...moh9jc&thumb=6

Desktop with Terminal and Text Editor:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...quyacx&thumb=6

MythTV main menu:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...ac1ru3&thumb=6

MythVideo:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...18l261&thumb=6

Doug

Originally Posted by MovieFan2009

Anyone having their picture go off for a split second every once an while. I am not sure if it is a problem with the C8000, the HDMI cable or Directv.

Originally Posted by MovieFan2009

Anyone having their picture go off for a split second every once an while. I am not sure if it is a problem with the C8000, the HDMI cable or Directv.

Originally Posted by gumbaz

wow, great info there man..

one thing I wonder about though is those pix you posted, they seem like print screen caps instead of actual photos taken of the TV with PC displaying on it..?

Originally Posted by edrhew

Yes that happens to me too. The screen goes black for like a second but audio is fine. I have a Onkyo 875 receiver HDMI out to the PN58C8000. HDMI in to AVR from Fios Multiroom DVR. It seems like a handshake issue, but it happens with no rhyme or reason.
I am using High Speed 10 ft HDMI cables from Monoprice.

E.

Originally Posted by rilenixx

with mine its the tv.......everyone calls it the blink. mine is going through reciever pioneer 1.4 enabled and i have 17.8 gbps hdmi cables. $ 130.00. it didnt do this for 6 weeks through reciever till last week.