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Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs 3D
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Has anyone purchased this yet? I don't know if it's region free or region locked....BUT the adventuring type would be able to buy it, rip it and MAKE it region free, no? I'm tempted to try myself...just wanted to know if anyone has attempted this yet...
post #482 of 5831
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Originally Posted by bmoviestar View Post
can anyone pm or send me the document or link to it thanks just its a 3000 dollar investment dont want to take any chances
This might be the document you're referencing. These are Mantis Boxer's calibration settings, to be applied AFTER the break-in period. I don't know if break-is is necessary, but I did it to help with image retention and prevent burn-in. Since most channels have logos, and I play a lot of Wii (Call of Duty), I wanted to be sure I wouldn't have IR problems, so I used break-in slides downloaded to USB, which I ran during the day while I work. I watched cable television in full-screen, and tried to limit my viewing of channels with logos (HBOHD is a good one). I had contrast turned down to 50, as well as brightness. I did this for 100 hours or so, then entered in the calibration settings from Mantis Boxer. The PQ is terrific, and despite playing a lot of Wii and watching channels with logos now, I have had absolutely no IR at all - not even a bit.

So why not use break-in slides and follow the care above? What does it hurt? Arguing against break-in is like arguing against global warming. Why take the chance? Why argue about it - just do something! If it exists, you're doing a great thing to help prevent problems down the road. If it doesn't, the only price you pay is imperfect PQ (due to low brightness and contrast levels) for a week or so. It doesn't cost anything - download free slides and be careful what you watch for a while. That's it.

Note: The setting in RED font are updated to reflect firmware 1019.1, so those are the numbers that should be used.

 

Samsung Plasma Calibration Settings.doc 28k . file
post #483 of 5831
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Originally Posted by DoctorO View Post

Speaking as the recipients of 2 broken 58c8000's so far, we feel your pain! Where did you order it from? Crutchfield says they are adding extra packing to our next one, which has taken a week to do for some reason, after it finally came back in stock. We're close to 5 weeks into this now without delivery of a working set.

This happened to me. I called ABT and asked them to inspect prior to shipping, and to put in extra plastic bubbles. They really came through - there was sooo much plastic in that box I felt a little guilty about the lack of "greenness."
post #484 of 5831
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

I really doubt that the C8000 PDP's look better than the C8000 LED in a bright room. The plasma will wash out, unless your window(s) are only behind the screen. If you have windows anywhere in the 180° radius in front of your plasma, with natural light pouring in the room, the blacks will washout on the plasma and turn a deep greenish-gray, like sea water. They will not be black.

The C8000 LED will look jet-black no matter how bright it gets in the room.

I don't have an LCD for comparison, but I will say that I am surprised how well my C8000 holds up in a bright room. Yes, the PQ does suffer a bit, especially in dark scenes. However, the black filter on the 8000 does a pretty good job of preventing reflections. I have a huge sliding glass door/windows just to the side of my TV, facing West. In the late afternoon/early evening, I have a slight problem. Other than that, I can watch TV all day. I have blackout shades on order, but like I said, I am pretty impressed, as my friend with a Panasonic has a much darker room than mine and his display has more of a problem in light than mine.
post #485 of 5831
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Originally Posted by Erickson00 View Post

Why take the chance?

I think the general concern is wasting all the energy.

My wife would also be worried about leaving the device on when we're not home, given that it generates some heat.
post #486 of 5831
Hi all. My tv has a firmware of 1020 and manufacturing date of 05/31/10.
What I have noticed on the "black level" issue is that when any of the top 3 modes are picked (Dynamic,Standard,Relax) The black levels take a big hit. I get the gray look. If I set it to Cal-Day or night without going through Movie mode the levels stay the same. If I set it to Movie mode and then to the Cal modes the black levels go down a lot.

So it would seem some of the BL issues may be software related. It's an inconvenience but not a big deal. Will keep an eye on it and contact samsung to see what they say when I get a chance.
post #487 of 5831
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Originally Posted by COLLOSUS76 View Post

Hi all. My tv has a firmware of 1020 and manufacturing date of 05/31/10.
What I have noticed on the "black level" issue is that when any of the top 3 modes are picked (Dynamic,Standard,Relax) The black levels take a big hit. I get the gray look. If I set it to Cal-Day or night without going through Movie mode the levels stay the same. If I set it to Movie mode and then to the Cal modes the black levels go down a lot.

So it would seem some of the BL issues may be software related. It's an inconvenience but not a big deal. Will keep an eye on it and contact samsung to see what they say when I get a chance.

All the settings.. Dyn, Stan, relax, cal day, cal night have their own seperate brightness, contrast, cell level, settings so black level will vary between them. This is normal for any tv. Now if you want to go through every setting, Dyn, Stan, Rel, cal day, cal night and set the brightness etc the same then it will be the same.

When I had my panasonic tcp54vt25, putting it in thx mode would grey the blacks because thx mode drops the contrast down to reach a 6500k referance standard which I find washes out the picture. Your tv is fine.

You can go under each setting and tweak the dynamic contrast, black level etc to your liking. Adjusting standard only does not effect dyn, rel, etc.. They all have their own settings.. This a great feature as you can have a bunch of custom settings for each source. Which I will now mention.. Standard hdmi-1, has it's own settings differant from standard hdmi-2.. So if you tweak hdmi-1 standard and you like it, you have duplicate what you did to hdmi-2 standard, etc, etc.

Again, this is perfectly normal operation and a great feature of the TV.
post #488 of 5831
What I'm trying to say is that if I switch from dynamic to cal-day the black levels stay the same as they were from dynamic, they won't go back to what they were before. If go to movie from dynamic and then to cal they will be what they were to the way I had it set up.
post #489 of 5831
ok i have a question i dont have hdmi hookups on my reciever (saving for a pioneer 1.4 hdmi) so how would i hook direct tv hd reciever , samsung 3d blu ray player and ps3 so i get good pic and sound till then thanks (i do have one or 2 optical outs i believe thanks
post #490 of 5831
We need model numbers for the A/V receiver, for sure, and also for the DirecTV receiver, Blu-ray Player and PS3 (just to help find the right specs).

What I can tell you is that my A/V receiver has only one SPDIF input, so that means that I could get 5.1 audio from only one device, if it wasn't for the HDMI inputs in my A/V receiver.
post #491 of 5831
ill get the model numbers when i get home the direct tv reciever was just installed last week so the guy said its the newest model
post #492 of 5831
That's not necessarily a good thing. What I've been finding is that the newer the equipment is (unless it is high-end) the fewer "older" connections that the equipment has. For example, the PN58C8000 actually shares a single connection between composite video and component video, while my old HDTV had two separate component video connections and a total of three separate composite video connections, plus an S-video connection.
post #493 of 5831
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Originally Posted by bicker1 View Post

That's not necessarily a good thing. What I've been finding is that the newer the equipment is (unless it is high-end) the fewer "older" connections that the equipment has. For example, the PN58C8000 actually shares a single connection between composite video and component video, while my old HDTV had two separate component video connections and a total of three separate composite video connections, plus an S-video connection.

the cable box is already hooked to the reciever but im wondering if i have to hook to tv via hdmi to watch world cup and if i can stll run audio to reciever??
post #494 of 5831
Hi all, I just placed an order for a PN58c8000. I have browsed many posts and I reviews and I believe this is the TV that will make me happy. I was originally looking at the LED C8000, but I decided to go with the plasma because of some reviews.( I also saved about 2-300$)

I also got the 3d kit and the BR 3d player.

I read that the major problem with this tv is the BUzzing sound. Is there any other issues with it? Is there any special care for plasmas? (It is my first one)

Thank you.
post #495 of 5831
Questions related to wall mounts for 63C8000.

1) Which wall mount are you using?

Page 56 of owners manual says, "...63" models DO NOT comply with VESA specifications. Therefore, you should use our (read Samsung) dedicated wall mount kit for this model." The rear panel has screws in the way where the mounting points are on the rear of the set. It also says that the "REAR clearances must be 5cm" or 2" min. for the 63" Plasma. This eliminates their slim wall mount as well because this mount places the set too close at 1.2cm or .5 inches.

2) If ALL VESA mounts are no good, and their own slim mount is also no good, then what "dedicated wall mount" is Samsung refering to?

Called Samsung and they concur that there are hugh contradictions.
post #496 of 5831
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Originally Posted by bicker1 View Post

We need model numbers for the A/V receiver, for sure, and also for the DirecTV receiver, Blu-ray Player and PS3 (just to help find the right specs).

What I can tell you is that my A/V receiver has only one SPDIF input, so that means that I could get 5.1 audio from only one device, if it wasn't for the HDMI inputs in my A/V receiver.

ok got model numbers Denon avr-687 for reciever and the direct tv box model number is h24-100 hope that helps i dont know what to do if i cant run surround for world cup in 3d was going to have a couple people over in hopes of converting them to go with a 3d display i know speakers on tvs are usually crap i hope there is a way to run this stuff (like hdmi from direct tv to tv and audio from direct tv to reciever via av cord ? ) like i said i want to hook up the direct tv reciever the samsung 3d player c6900 and a ps3 original brick version bought in 2006 appreciate the expert advice around here thanks
post #497 of 5831
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Originally Posted by CappyDen View Post

Questions related to wall mounts for 63C8000.

1) Which wall mount are you using?

Page 56 of owners manual says, "...63" models DO NOT comply with VESA specifications. Therefore, you should use our (read Samsung) dedicated wall mount kit for this model." The rear panel has screws in the way where the mounting points are on the rear of the set. It also says that the "REAR clearances must be 5cm" or 2" min. for the 63" Plasma. This eliminates their slim wall mount as well because this mount places the set too close at 1.2cm or .5 inches.

2) If ALL VESA mounts no good, and their own slim mount is no good, then what "dedicated wall mount" is Samsung refering to?

Called Samsung and they concur that there are hugh contradictions.

Not sure which one is wrong, but a pamphlet on the 63C8000 downloaded from Samsung
USA's website says:

Vesa Wall Mount Support: 23.6" x 15.7"

Hopefully someone will clear this up for us since mines coming friday.
post #498 of 5831
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Originally Posted by iwanthdnow View Post

hi all, i just placed an order for a pn58c8000. I have browsed many posts and i reviews and i believe this is the tv that will make me happy. I was originally looking at the led c8000, but i decided to go with the plasma because of some reviews.( i also saved about 2-300$)

i also got the 3d kit and the br 3d player.

I read that the major problem with this tv is the buzzing sound. Is there any other issues with it? Is there any special care for plasmas? (it is my first one)

thank you.

x2!
post #499 of 5831
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Originally Posted by tivodoctor View Post


Not sure which one is wrong, but a pamphlet on the 63C8000 downloaded from Samsung
USA's website says:

Vesa Wall Mount Support: 23.6" x 15.7"

Hopefully someone will clear this up for us since mines coming friday.

Vogels make a super slim (inch thick) mount that is excellent for dry wall because it gives you width to mount to the studs in the wall.. Otherwise genuine samsung is awesome for brick walls..

Oh and I've tried selling alternatives at work and the screws that mount the tv to the brackets are just too long for the LEDs.. May not be the case with the plasmas tho, coz they're a tad thicker! Might just mean that u can use any mount with the plasmas!
post #500 of 5831
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Originally Posted by tivodoctor View Post

Not sure which one is wrong, but a pamphlet on the 63C8000 downloaded from Samsung
USA's website says:

Vesa Wall Mount Support: 23.6" x 15.7"

Hopefully someone will clear this up for us since mines coming friday.


Yes, I've seen this as well... the fact is, the manual is wrong. This TV IS VESA compliant and the statement in the manual that it's "not" is pure BS! The screws on the back of the set which are in the way of the VESA hanging brackets can be removed and discarded... These 4 small screws appear to only secure the rear cover panel of the TV. Once the brackets are firmly secured to the back of the set, the rear panel is even better secured than before with the small screws.

The flush mount system Samsung makes (WMN1000CXZA) should be avoided.
post #501 of 5831
So do you guys know of any reason not to use the mounts from monoprice?
post #502 of 5831
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Originally Posted by CappyDen View Post

Questions related to wall mounts for 63C8000.
1) Which wall mount are you using?

Clcik on pics below, these will work just fine.



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post #503 of 5831
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Originally Posted by DocuMaker View Post

I do think that LED is catching up to PDP though, and narrowing the gap every year.
The Kuros were plasma's swan song...

Well I would have agreed until this years line up of LEDs came out, I think they took a step back.

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post #504 of 5831
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Originally Posted by bmoviestar View Post

ok got model numbers Denon avr-687 for reciever

You've actually got 4 SPDIF inputs there, two optical and two coaxial. So the idea would be to use HDMI to connect each source to your television (for best video) while at the same time connecting each source to your AV receiver for DD5.1 audio. The DirecTV receiver supports coaxial. The BD player supports optical. I don't know what the PS3 supports, but if it supports one or the other you're all set.
post #505 of 5831
What picture settings can you use in 3D mode? I was playing around on the 8000 at best buy and i noticed that in the 2D-3D mode the only available picture options were "Movie" and "Standard", all other options were grayed out. The tv was not updated to FW 1019.
post #506 of 5831
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Well I would have agreed until this years line up of LEDs came out, I think they took a step back.

Agreed, they are horrible and why I finally moved to Plasma. It's like the inclusion of 3D is a way to hide that 2D has gotten worse on LED's.
post #507 of 5831
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Originally Posted by maygit View Post

What picture settings can you use in 3D mode? I was playing around on the 8000 at best buy and i noticed that in the 2D-3D mode the only available picture options were "Movie" and "Standard", all other options were grayed out. The tv was not updated to FW 1019.

I have the newest firmware, and that's all that's available on mine.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Clcik on pics below, these will work just fine.




Thanks! But the problem is Samsung says the 58" and 63" C8000 plasmas are NOT VESA compliant on page 56 of the manual... and in fact they are really not in a way. There are screws in the way on the set. Remove them and then the set will comply to VESA.
post #509 of 5831
I am experiencing buzzing on my Samsung Plasma (pn63c8000). Another member of this forum is not experiencing the buzzing. He is using a Monster Power Blackout PowerCenter HDP 650 (link below) which provides power conditioning. I currently have an APC Back-UPS RS 1000VA 230V (link below) which also claims to provide power conditioning. It is thought that the Samsung buzz MAY BE prevented by having correct Power Conditioning.

Does the UPS I own compare to the Monster HDP 650? Better, worse, unknown?

Monster Power Blackout PowerCenter HDP 650
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=4809

APC Back-UPS RS 1000VA 230V
http://www.apc.com/products/resource...i&tab=features

Thanks!
post #510 of 5831
BTW, I have an APC XS 1300.
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