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post #1741 of 1827
Update: I just called Logitech support @ 1-646-454-3200. Talked to tech (Jerry) & they are aware of Netflex issues after update to 3.2v. He walked me through some steps..........settings. applications, netflex, etc....after the steps, re-boot, had to register to my Netflex account.......good to go now. Happy again ! Its not your router, don't have to do factory re-set etc.......call tech support.
post #1742 of 1827
Sony's new $200 Google TV box NSZ-GS7:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/google-tv-goes-international-sony-ns7-gs7-set-top-box-up-for-pr/

Vizio's new $100 Google TV box:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/26/vizio-google-tv-box-emerges-as-the-co-star-stream-player/

Marvell Armada 1500 ARM 1.2GHz dual core chip:

http://www.marvell.com/digital-entertainment/armada-1500/features/index.jsp

I haven't seen confirmation yet that the Vizio box uses the same Marvell chip. Here is a review on the Sony box:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/26/sony-nsz-gs7-google-tv-review/

I am pretty sure it will be clear soon that Vizio has some cost cutting to reach that price compared to the Sony box. Some key Google TV differences between the Logitech Revue and Sony NSZ-GT1:

1. Logitech Revue doesn't handle DTS.
2. Logitech Revue doesn't handle MPEG-2.
3. Logitech Revue uses a lesser processor.
4. Logitech Revue has less RAM.

Owning both of the first generation boxes, you might feel the Sony premium was worth the price so I think the same thing needs to be done before deciding on the second generation boxes. Let's hope this product takes off, I still use Google TV often but since I already own three of them, I am sitting on the sidelines with the new version, at least for a year or so.
post #1743 of 1827
I left off one key difference between the Sony and Logitech versions of Google TV, Sony has done a much better and more timely job with firmware updates and I think that gap is only going to get larger going forward. I haven't read good things about Vizio's handling of their Blu-ray player firmware updates, just the opposite in fact. Still, I hope Vizio can pull this off, sell a great Google TV box and provide good service at the $100 price. I am skeptical however.
post #1744 of 1827
^^^
Agree. So far there isn’t enough info from Vizio yet, but there is a list of some key specs & a comparison link between Sony NSZ-GS7 and Logitech Revue at this thread shows Sony device got considerable hardware upgrade & file support over Revue.
post #1745 of 1827
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

^^^
Agree. So far there isn’t enough info from Vizio yet, but there is a list of some key specs & a comparison link between Sony NSZ-GS7 and Logitech Revue at this thread shows Sony device got considerable hardware upgrade & file support over Revue.

The new Sony box looks good to me so far. There are quite a number of differences between the new Sony and Vizio but until we know the comprehensive lsit, it doesn't make much sense to post partial lists.
post #1746 of 1827
Can we get/install vlc app on gtv and play local media from usb hard drive??
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
Edited by csrini1 - 7/2/12 at 10:06am
post #1747 of 1827
It says incompatible with logitech revue.
Edited by csrini1 - 7/2/12 at 5:54pm
post #1748 of 1827
It was probably written with the NDK. Google TV can only do java coded apps.
post #1749 of 1827
Can one of you guys visit Speedtest.net and compare results running it via your PC vs GTV?

It appears my GTV connection is really slow compared to my PC. Must be a faulty Ethernet cable or something but I don't have one long enough to swap out.
post #1750 of 1827
It appears there are now media players running Android 4.0(ICS) which can run Plex and other apps, including XBMC. They apparently scale well to a TV. Is there any reason why GTV should even exist? Sounds like an older OS, twice the price, fewer apps, etc... I have a Sony on order but GTV doesn't have a bright future with units like the Pivos Xios DS floating around. Am I missing something here?

Philip
post #1751 of 1827
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

It appears there are now media players running Android 4.0(ICS) which can run Plex and other apps, including XBMC. They apparently scale well to a TV. Is there any reason why GTV should even exist? Sounds like an older OS, twice the price, fewer apps, etc... I have a Sony on order but GTV doesn't have a bright future with units like the Pivos Xios DS floating around. Am I missing something here?
Philip

If I had known that the Google TV would not play MKV DTS sound I would have never bought it. Playing stuff from my computer is what I got this for. Google leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
post #1752 of 1827
With advertising like -


Internet Player with Google TV
It's time to watch exactly what you want. Search everything at once: live TV, single episodes, entire seasons, games and websites. It's all there, and you don't even have to switch inputs or remotes to find it.

it seems obvious that the focus of Google TV never was playing stuff from your computer.
post #1753 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

With advertising like -
Internet Player with Google TV
It's time to watch exactly what you want. Search everything at once: live TV, single episodes, entire seasons, games and websites. It's all there, and you don't even have to switch inputs or remotes to find it.
it seems obvious that the focus of Google TV never was playing stuff from your computer.

So are you saying that once I get past the first line of the specs of an item, it is ok if the rest of the stuff they said it could do does not work? As long as the stuff in the big print does? Come on. Are you a blind Google fanboy?
When I read what it could do, it seemed like a great device. And one of the things it said it could do was stream media from my home computer or network. I also subscribe to netflix and Google plus so Yes, I do take advantage of those things as well and I thought it would be nice to get it all in one box with a keyboard for fast access. But for me, the main thing I do is stream from my home network. One of the things it said it could do. Little did I know that they were too cheap to pay for the DTS decoding.


Oh, and even Logitech admits it was a big mistake

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57322966-93/logitech-confesses-to-gigantic-mistake-with-google-tv/
post #1754 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Jhon View Post

Little did I know that they were too cheap to pay for the DTS decoding.

Why did you not know? Did they say it would?
post #1755 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

With advertising like -


Internet Player with Google TV
It's time to watch exactly what you want. Search everything at once: live TV, single episodes, entire seasons, games and websites. It's all there, and you don't even have to switch inputs or remotes to find it.

it seems obvious that the focus of Google TV never was playing stuff from your computer.

Fine but if a $100 Android 4.0 media player from Pivos can do that and more, what is the point of GTV? Is it the pass through HDMI ports which make it different? The ir blaster?

Philip
post #1756 of 1827
i have been interested in googletv for some time now, but every time there just is not a compelling reason to buy one, especially with the content owners largely shunning the thing.
post #1757 of 1827
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Originally Posted by qz3fwd View Post

i have been interested in googletv for some time now, but every time there just is not a compelling reason to buy one, especially with the content owners largely shunning the thing.

I know what you mean. I bought the Logitech Revue for Google TV way back when they dropped the price to $99. I was pretty excited to get it set up and start using it. I tried it for about a month then packed it up and put it in the closet. When they got the big Android market update I pulled it out and used it for a couple of weeks then returned it to the closet where it has remained since. The content is just too limited for me. I bought another Roku box to use in it's place, I love those Roku boxes.
post #1758 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Jhon View Post

But for me, the main thing I do is stream from my home network. One of the things it said it could do. Little did I know that they were too cheap to pay for the DTS decoding.

Same here. And they're apparently also too cheap to pay for MPEG2 decoding! Every player I have can play back DVD rips, menus and all. I didn't even think it was a possibility for GTV to put out such a deficient device.

As for the HDMI passthrough, this has been so problematic (failure to pass through after a few hours, blasts of noise and flashes of light requiring reset) I don't use it any more. At least I only paid $79 for the dar thing.
post #1759 of 1827
Pairing Logitech revue keyboard with Sony NSZ-GS7 - here.
post #1760 of 1827
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Originally Posted by TheKrell View Post

Same here. And they're apparently also too cheap to pay for MPEG2 decoding! Every player I have can play back DVD rips, menus and all. I didn't even think it was a possibility for GTV to put out such a deficient device.
As for the HDMI passthrough, this has been so problematic (failure to pass through after a few hours, blasts of noise and flashes of light requiring reset) I don't use it any more. At least I only paid $79 for the dar thing.

Pretty funny, who told you guys the Logitech Revue would play DTS and MPEG-2? The Sony NSZ-GT1 will handle both as I mentioned above, probably several times. I love Google TV but understand how to use it and what it does, I wouldn't blame anybody but myself if I had purchased a product not knowing what it would do. I have never had any need for DTS or MPEG-2 with Google TV, as far as I know there is no streaming available from the internet with either, at least I have never found any. If I had any files to play with either, I have the NSZ-GT1 but I don't and probably never will, I bought Google TV for internet streaming as part of my solution for cutting the cord. For my needs, Google TV is far and away the best streaming box, there isn't a close second.
post #1761 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

Pretty funny, who told you guys the Logitech Revue would play DTS and MPEG-2?

Asked and never answered. They simply did not do their homework before buying and now it is Google's fault.
post #1762 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

Pretty funny, who told you guys the Logitech Revue would play DTS and MPEG-2?

Nobody. I just assumed it would based on my experience with a number of other media streamers.
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Asked and never answered. They simply did not do their homework before buying and now it is Google's fault.

Correct, except the part about never answering and it being Google's fault. As noted above, other GoogleTV devices do handle these streams, so IMHO it's Logitech's fault.
post #1763 of 1827
Can GoogleTV play videos from the following sites:

1. Dailymotion, Youku, gomtv.net
2. Twitch.tv live streaming
3. Stream2k Putlocker Sockshare XTshare Deditv Vidreel Kiwiload Xvidstage Vidbox Allmyvideo Filenuke
Potlocker Clicktovie Flashx DivXHoste Putlocker Movshare Nowvideo Watchfreei Novamov Divxstage Madevid
Veervid Flashx Putlocker Sockshare Nowvideo Watchfreei XTshare Deditv Boojour Vidreel Videoveeb
Xvidstage Vidbox Filenuke Flashstrea Hdplay Monsterupl Stream2k.e Clicktovie Flashx Nosvideo Videoveeb
post #1764 of 1827
Find out on Google Play Store.
post #1765 of 1827
Vizio Co-Star tear down.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Vizio-Co-Star-Teardown/10187/1

The Sony NSZ-GS7 adds a USB port, optical audio output and 8 GB of flash memory, rather than 4. I also like the Sony remote much better and believe it is certainly more expensive to make. Still, that looks like a great piece of hardware for $100 but I would pay the extra $100 for the Sony if I was going to move to the second generation.
post #1766 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Yser View Post

Can GoogleTV play videos from the following sites:
1. Dailymotion, Youku, gomtv.net
2. Twitch.tv live streaming
3. Stream2k Putlocker Sockshare XTshare Deditv Vidreel Kiwiload Xvidstage Vidbox Allmyvideo Filenuke
Potlocker Clicktovie Flashx DivXHoste Putlocker Movshare Nowvideo Watchfreei Novamov Divxstage Madevid
Veervid Flashx Putlocker Sockshare Nowvideo Watchfreei XTshare Deditv Boojour Vidreel Videoveeb
Xvidstage Vidbox Filenuke Flashstrea Hdplay Monsterupl Stream2k.e Clicktovie Flashx Nosvideo Videoveeb

I use Google TV a lot and don't even recognize any of those other than Dailymotion and I don't use it but I can tell most are nothing more than sites with links to uploaded videos and I think those are popup ad crapfests and difficult for Google TV to deal with and many will require downloading some crappy player that can't be downloaded so Google TV is likely a terrible choice. Why would you use anything other than a PC for those sites?
post #1767 of 1827
Is there an official Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 thread? Cant find one that is active.

How does everyone like their box?

I have ordered a Co-Star, which shoudl arrive any day now. I am considering returning because of the reviews on that thread. The impression I get is that Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 is a better fit for me. It has an IR blaster built into box, which I need to control DVR in closet. It will also play MKV files via SMB which is a must for my setup. It also appears much more responsive than the Vizio from what I am read.
post #1768 of 1827
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Is there an official Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 thread? Cant find one that is active.
How does everyone like their box?
I have ordered a Co-Star, which shoudl arrive any day now. I am considering returning because of the reviews on that thread. The impression I get is that Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 is a better fit for me. It has an IR blaster built into box, which I need to control DVR in closet. It will also play MKV files via SMB which is a must for my setup. It also appears much more responsive than the Vizio from what I am read.

Google TV Forum has a number of threads on the NSZ-GS7 and possibly someone with the same or similar setup and needs who may have some answers. Not much activity recently on any box other than the Vizio.
post #1769 of 1827
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Is there an official Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 thread? Cant find one that is active.

How does everyone like their box?

I have ordered a Co-Star, which shoudl arrive any day now. I am considering returning because of the reviews on that thread. The impression I get is that Sony NSZ-GS7 GTV2 is a better fit for me. It has an IR blaster built into box, which I need to control DVR in closet. It will also play MKV files via SMB which is a must for my setup. It also appears much more responsive than the Vizio from what I am read.

There is a thread on the Sony box from a Plex perspective. It talks about a number of other issues. I have been using one for around 2 weeks. Very nice unit, great remote and very responsive. I am not an Android user at all, but I really like the Sony.

philip
post #1770 of 1827
Hisense is on board with a budget Google TV box. I didn't know anything about the company but after reading about it, I consider this good news.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/261385/google_hisense_partner_for_sub100_google_tv_settop_box.html
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