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post #692 of 705

Hello.  I'm a new member to the AVS forum and have been following the Channel Master & Dish DTVPAL threads for a while now.  First, I want to send a huge thank you to all who have posted some very helpful info re: OTA DVR's.  Second, I must sadly report that my CM-7000 recently "died" after a little over 3 years of (mostly) faithful service.  It started a few weeks back after the DST bug on 2/9 (the clock was off by an hour), and then when I turned it on the very next day it got stuck on the reboot/title screen (where it shows the white screen with Channel Master logo and "loading info" bar) and would not progress past this point.  I was able to do a soft reboot using the remote, but it would still not go past the title screen.  I unplugged it and plugged it back in after a few minutes, same results.  Unplugged it, let it rest for a few days, plugged it back in, same results.  Swapped hard drives, still the same results.  I'm afraid it's toast, and not really sure what to do with it now.  I'm open to replacing it with a new OTA-DVR, but reluctant to give Channel Master any more of my hard-earned bucks, and before I go this route I'd like to be certain it's absolutely necessary.  Is there any other way I might possibly revive my CM-7000?...or, considering everything I've described and done up to this point, does it sound like it has indeed officially kicked the bucket?  Any help/info would be much appreciated, thanks!

post #693 of 705
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Originally Posted by otaga View Post

Hello.  I'm a new member to the AVS forum and have been following the Channel Master & Dish DTVPAL threads for a while now.  First, I want to send a huge thank you to all who have posted some very helpful info re: OTA DVR's.  Second, I must sadly report that my CM-7000 recently "died" after a little over 3 years of (mostly) faithful service.  It started a few weeks back after the DST bug on 2/9 (the clock was off by an hour), and then when I turned it on the very next day it got stuck on the reboot/title screen (where it shows the white screen with Channel Master logo and "loading info" bar) and would not progress past this point.  I was able to do a soft reboot using the remote, but it would still not go past the title screen.  I unplugged it and plugged it back in after a few minutes, same results.  Unplugged it, let it rest for a few days, plugged it back in, same results.  Swapped hard drives, still the same results.  I'm afraid it's toast, and not really sure what to do with it now.  I'm open to replacing it with a new OTA-DVR, but reluctant to give Channel Master any more of my hard-earned bucks, and before I go this route I'd like to be certain it's absolutely necessary.  Is there any other way I might possibly revive my CM-7000?...or, considering everything I've described and done up to this point, does it sound like it has indeed officially kicked the bucket?  Any help/info would be much appreciated, thanks!
I was told to unplug the unit for at least 15 minutes and I've done that successfully twice in a row and unit has always worked for me.

The CM 7000 PAL is still one of the best units around even though I have laid down a bunch of cash to have a TiVo Romeo I still have them plugged into the same TV
Yes the TiVo TiVo Romeo basic works fabulous but it doesn't have all the functions that I was used to on the CM unit.
Don't give up on your old unit it is just too good to let go. P Smith could probably fix it for you but I would still play around shutting off turning on all sorts of things to try to get it to start before going that far.
I feel lucky that I have both of my old units working giving me a total of seven channels that I can record if I have to. Lots of luck.
post #694 of 705
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Originally Posted by otaga View Post

Hello.  I'm a new member to the AVS forum and have been following the Channel Master & Dish DTVPAL threads for a while now.  First, I want to send a huge thank you to all who have posted some very helpful info re: OTA DVR's.  Second, I must sadly report that my CM-7000 recently "died" after a little over 3 years of (mostly) faithful service.  It started a few weeks back after the DST bug on 2/9 (the clock was off by an hour), and then when I turned it on the very next day it got stuck on the reboot/title screen (where it shows the white screen with Channel Master logo and "loading info" bar) and would not progress past this point.

Did you follow the exact method described in the DTV-PAL forum? I don't see where you disconnected the antenna cable. If you did could you describe exactly what happens when you plug the unit back in without the antenna cable connected? If you would describe the sequence and screens that come up in the loop that would be helpful. I had the same problem at about the same time and it took me several attempts to get to the menu screen. (maybe as many as 20 tries) If you do get there be sure to do a "Restore Factory Defaults".
post #695 of 705

Sorry, I left out a few details >>> Yes, I tried resetting it (unplugging the unit, waiting a few minutes, plugging the unit back in) many times with slight variations each time: with the antenna connected;  without the antenna connected;  with different hard drives installed (two different hard drives - the original and a compatible WD 250GB 3.5"); with NO hard drive installed;  waiting various amounts of time between reset attempts (the last series of attempts being after the unit was unplugged for a week).  All in all I tried resetting at least 20 times, probably more.  Each time, the unit will power up (red & green light on in front) and the TV will display a white screen with the Channel Master CM-7000 logo in red and a "loading" message below the logo with a series of dots aligned in a horizontal row (the dots will flash in sequence one after the other, over and over), and that's it...it never progresses beyond this point, not matter how long I wait.

post #696 of 705
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Originally Posted by otaga View Post

Sorry, I left out a few details >>> Yes, I tried resetting it (unplugging the unit, waiting a few minutes, plugging the unit back in) many times with slight variations each time: with the antenna connected;  without the antenna connected;  with different hard drives installed (two different hard drives - the original and a compatible WD 250GB 3.5"); with NO hard drive installed;  waiting various amounts of time between reset attempts (the last series of attempts being after the unit was unplugged for a week).  All in all I tried resetting at least 20 times, probably more.  Each time, the unit will power up (red & green light on in front) and the TV will display a white screen with the Channel Master CM-7000 logo in red and a "loading" message below the logo with a series of dots aligned in a horizontal row (the dots will flash in sequence one after the other, over and over), and that's it...it never progresses beyond this point, not matter how long I wait.
If you haven't already, I would check the antenna line by putting it on the TV itself to see if the connection is okay or replace the line and check it that way good luck
post #697 of 705
otaga, check you PM
post #698 of 705
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Originally Posted by otaga View Post

Hello.  I'm a new member to the AVS forum and have been following the Channel Master & Dish DTVPAL threads for a while now.  First, I want to send a huge thank you to all who have posted some very helpful info re: OTA DVR's.  Second, I must sadly report that my CM-7000 recently "died" after a little over 3 years of (mostly) faithful service.  It started a few weeks back after the DST bug on 2/9 (the clock was off by an hour), and then when I turned it on the very next day it got stuck on the reboot/title screen (where it shows the white screen with Channel Master logo and "loading info" bar) and would not progress past this point.  I was able to do a soft reboot using the remote, but it would still not go past the title screen.  I unplugged it and plugged it back in after a few minutes, same results.  Unplugged it, let it rest for a few days, plugged it back in, same results.  Swapped hard drives, still the same results.  I'm afraid it's toast, and not really sure what to do with it now.  I'm open to replacing it with a new OTA-DVR, but reluctant to give Channel Master any more of my hard-earned bucks, and before I go this route I'd like to be certain it's absolutely necessary.  Is there any other way I might possibly revive my CM-7000?...or, considering everything I've described and done up to this point, does it sound like it has indeed officially kicked the bucket?  Any help/info would be much appreciated, thanks!

I just had a similar experience with my 4 year old PAL. After several power cycles (including one of several hours of power off), it even quit sending any video to the TV (no boot-up screen). I disconnected the antenna, no difference. I switched from HDMI to coax output, no difference. The red & green lights would come on for a few seconds, then go off, with the TV staying blank. I opened the case for the first time (damn those (now broken off) tabs!), and blew out what little dust was in there (mostly on the fan). I removed & reinstalled the hard drive in the cleaning process. Put it all back together, hooked up to HDMI, and it booted up normally.
post #699 of 705
JohnnGa > Try unplugging both the power AND the Antenna. Then, just plug in the Power. There is some report that a "bogus" ( "tropo" ??? ) channel somehow gets added, then stops being received. However, it may have been a "great" channel while the atmospheric conditions were when the channel was added. So, the CM-7000PAL tries to get the guide data from it and never tries the other channels.

If it gets past this, plug the antenna back in. Make sure you get rid of any channels that don't work. It's probably even better to do a Factory Reset - Kurt
post #700 of 705
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Originally Posted by kkoceski View Post

JohnnGa > Try unplugging both the power AND the Antenna. Then, just plug in the Power. There is some report that a "bogus" ( "tropo" ??? ) channel somehow gets added, then stops being received. However, it may have been a "great" channel while the atmospheric conditions were when the channel was added. So, the CM-7000PAL tries to get the guide data from it and never tries the other channels.

If it gets past this, plug the antenna back in. Make sure you get rid of any channels that don't work. It's probably even better to do a Factory Reset - Kurt

Thanks Kurt, but disconnecting the antenna was the first thing I tried. Nothing changed until I had opened the case, removed the hard drive (power & signal cables), then put it all back together. Doesn't make sense, but it has been working fine ever since.

I haven't looked for "dead" channels, but I will. I am in central Arkansas and it occasionally picks up a few from northern Louisiana.
post #701 of 705

I checked my PMs and tried the advice given there, but unfortunately still no luck with reviving my DVR.  It keeps sticking on the initial "Loading, please wait" screen.  The only additional info I can offer is that I also blew out the dust once I removed the cover the first time, but I don't think it was even necessary since I found very little dust inside to begin with (the unit sits inside a cabinet, so dust doesn't really have much of a chance to get to it).  Also, I don't think overheating was an issue...I would check it periodically and it never felt like it was too hot.

 

Pardon the mixed metaphors, but I'm about ready to throw in the towel, wash my hands of Channel Master and take the Tivo plunge.  If it's possible to get the CM-7000 repaired at a reasonable cost, I might consider that and then use it as a secondary unit on another TV, but at this point don't have much faith in it (or any other CM product) as my main DVR.

 

Thanks again to all who offered advice & help, much appreciated!

post #702 of 705
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Originally Posted by otaga View Post

I checked my PMs and tried the advice given there, but unfortunately still no luck with reviving my DVR.  It keeps sticking on the initial "Loading, please wait" screen.  The only additional info I can offer is that I also blew out the dust once I removed the cover the first time, but I don't think it was even necessary since I found very little dust inside to begin with (the unit sits inside a cabinet, so dust doesn't really have much of a chance to get to it).  Also, I don't think overheating was an issue...I would check it periodically and it never felt like it was too hot.

Pardon the mixed metaphors, but I'm about ready to throw in the towel, wash my hands of Channel Master and take the Tivo plunge.  If it's possible to get the CM-7000 repaired at a reasonable cost, I might consider that and then use it as a secondary unit on another TV, but at this point don't have much faith in it (or any other CM product) as my main DVR.

Thanks again to all who offered advice & help, much appreciated!

Go to the "DTVPAL thread". They are having similar problems and have changed drives with success but P.Smith does repairs on these.
post #703 of 705
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

not on my DVR [F208]
When using the COMPOSITE AUDIO connections, I also get MUCH better audio levels after selecting "Night" rather than "Standard" under "Dolby Digital Setup" ( press: menu, #3, #4 ) .........(why - ???). Have my DVR connected to DVD Recorder then out to CRT T.V. My software version: [ F400TALD-N ] ( re. JHBrandt post #686 )
post #704 of 705
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When using the COMPOSITE AUDIO connections, I also get MUCH better audio levels after selecting "Night" rather than "Standard" under "Dolby Digital Setup" ( press: menu, #3, #4 ) .........(why - ???). Have my DVR connected to DVD Recorder then out to CRT T.V. My software version: [ F400TALD-N ] ( re. JHBrandt post #686 )

Mine is the same. I don't know why but I sure wish my new Roamio had this much audio level. Btw I use the HDMI line.
post #705 of 705
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Originally Posted by Fudgie View Post

When using the COMPOSITE AUDIO connections, I also get MUCH better audio levels after selecting "Night" rather than "Standard" under "Dolby Digital Setup" ( press: menu, #3, #4 ) .........(why - ???). Have my DVR connected to DVD Recorder then out to CRT T.V. My software version: [ F400TALD-N ] ( re. JHBrandt post #686 )

I suspect rahanner has figured out the answer:
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Originally Posted by rahanner View Post

I think that "night" and "standard" actually mean "compressed" and "not compressed". The relative loudness of them depends on what you are watching at the time.

If Night means Compressed, it would raise the volume of soft passages and lower the volume of loud ones. Presumably, the idea is to let you turn down the volume on your TV or sound system (so loud sounds like explosions aren't too loud for folks trying to sleep in another room), yet still be able to hear ordinary dialog. But since most shows have more dialog than explosions, the net effect is an increase in volume, which is why the two settings sound as if they're reversed.

If you prefer more of a "home theater" experience, choose Standard and crank the volume wink.gif
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