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post #241 of 1447
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Originally Posted by film113 View Post

Same here. Since he had already given the house away in exchange for the repairs, I didn't expect him to burn it to the ground!

Not until we saw Nucky reveal some of his (secret) past to Margaret did the burning make sense. Prior to that it seemed like he was doing a good deed - which was his complete intent at the time.

larry
post #242 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Not until we saw Nucky reveal some of his (secret) past to Margaret did the burning make sense. Prior to that it seemed like he was doing a good deed - which was his complete intent at the time.

larry

Exactly my take as well
post #243 of 1447
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

I am not saying it is good or bad, but that is what it is and why some visual choices are as the are. That is the style.

And I love it! I also liked how the diner scene was done. Sure, some of us expected it. But I liked how you saw the drinking glass break first before you saw the result. (Allen Coulter directed this ep.)
post #244 of 1447
I thought last Sunday's episode was great! I loved the diner scene. It was nice retribution for what he had done to the innocent girl. Nucky's other girl is definitely going to confront Margaret in the next episode. I hope they duke it out but Margaret is too classy for that. Ha. I feel like Nucky and Margaret have a connection that is based on trust. Yes, Nucky is still hiding some secrets from her but he can be himself around her. More so than he was with the other woman. I always assumed that Nucky wanted more than just a pretty face. He wants the family that he feels he was robbed of when his wife died. He even has Margaret's son calling him Uncle Nucky. I'm hoping that he doesn't go astray and start ignoring Margaret. She's intelligent, quite witty and a great asset to Nucky.


This season flew by. There are only 5 more episodes left. Call me greedy but I want more! LOL.
post #245 of 1447
Oops!

Looks like somebody didn't realize they changed his name:

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/ent...faces#slide=15





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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

The real Enoch L. "Nucky" Thompson:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_L._Johnson

As you can see, his real name was Johnson...
post #246 of 1447
It seemed to me that the "call me Uncle Nucky" remark was also his way of telling Margaret that he was willing to trust her.
post #247 of 1447
I think I love this show and some people dont because i see the potential.

I see a battle with nucky and luckey luciano. I see nucky dealing with that psychopath nelso. I see maybe jimmy and that sniper also getting involved. Not to mention those 3 brothers who hung that black man.

Their is alot of dynamic exciting feuds building, im just waiting for the lid to pop.

I love almost all the characters. I really like jimmy he is an extremely cool but ruthless killer. The sniper with the mask. Al capone, luckey, those guys are interesting characters just by name. Nelson is also fantastic, we have not even broke the surface of how nuts that guy is.

I think they do need to crank things up fairly soon and start mixing storylines. These first episodes were clearly establishing characters.
post #248 of 1447
We are really enjoying this series. I have one problem; all the smoking. I know everyone smoked back then, but sometimes it's just too much. To me, it's distracting in some scenes. I quit smoking 25 years ago and I'm not a prude, but geez...
post #249 of 1447
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

We are really enjoying this series. I have one problem; all the smoking. I know everyone smoked back then, but sometimes it's just too much. To me, it's distracting in some scenes. I quit smoking 25 years ago and I'm not a prude, but geez...

Looks like you have 2 options... and I'm a reformed smoker myself, but I still prefer a non-revisionist depiction of the era.

And I guess you haven't watched Mad Men, also.

larry
post #250 of 1447
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

We are really enjoying this series. I have one problem; all the smoking. I know everyone smoked back then, but sometimes it's just too much. To me, it's distracting in some scenes. I quit smoking 25 years ago and I'm not a prude, but geez...

I think some of today's Hollywood movies are 2 hour cigarette commercials. You don't suppose the tobacco companies have a hand in it do you? Nah!
post #251 of 1447
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Originally Posted by hamstang View Post

I think some of today's Hollywood movies are 2 hour cigarette commercials. You don't suppose the tobacco companies have a hand in it do you? Nah!

Nope. In fact, I see very little smoking in films these days. What I find unrealistic is when, in films, it shows no one smoking. ESPECIALLY in the case of period films like FLYBOYS, PEARL HARBOR, etc. Takes me right out of the movie.

I understand that ex-smokers don't want to see any depictions of it anywhere, but keep in mind that prior to the Reagen-era propaganda altering people's perceptions, people smoked unapologetically. I can remember when people were allowed to smoke at their desks at work! I understand that many people are hoping for a DEMOLITION MAN-type of society these days. But whether you're for or against it, over a third of the people in the US smoke...so showing a non-smoking world just strikes me as false. That said, I certainly do not feel that it should ever be shown in films geared towards children. A G or PG-rated movie should never depict it. But BOARDWALK is geared towards adults and to say smoking shouldn't be shown realistically is like saying they shouldn't show alcohol use either.
post #252 of 1447
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

We are really enjoying this series. I have one problem; all the smoking. I know everyone smoked back then, but sometimes it's just too much. To me, it's distracting in some scenes. I quit smoking 25 years ago and I'm not a prude, but geez...

Torches of Freedom


It was big back then. But I do understand not wanting to see it as a ex-smoker.
post #253 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Joel Clemons View Post

But whether you're for or against it, over a third of the people in the US smoke...so showing a non-smoking world just strikes me as false. That said, I certainly do not feel that it should ever be shown in films geared towards children. A G or PG-rated movie should never depict it. But BOARDWALK is geared towards adults and to say smoking shouldn't be shown realistically is like saying they shouldn't show alcohol use either.


From the wording of your response it's easy to tell that you smoke.

I have no problem with smoking being shown on Boardwalk Empire. As a non-smoker, I am not taken out of a film if it isn't displayed, though, either.

Your percentages are decades old. Smoking keeps declining and is between 20%-23% right now. That is much less than 1/3 of the population. At work, under 5% in my building smoke. None of my friends smoke. And of family, only my brother-in-law smokes. (All 3 of my ex-wives smoked. )

Art
post #254 of 1447
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

From the wording of your response it's easy to tell that you smoke.

I have no problem with smoking being shown on Boardwalk Empire. As a non-smoker, I am not taken out of a film if it isn't displayed, though, either.

Your percentages are decades old. Smoking keeps declining and is between 20%-23% right now. That is much less than 1/3 of the population. At work, under 5% in my building smoke. None of my friends smoke. And of family, only my brother-in-law smokes. (All 3 of my ex-wives smoked. )

Geez Art! What did you do those women??? :-)

Actually, I've sort of quit (after 35 years). I still have one every now and then...maybe totalling a pack a month. Why? Because it's enjoyable. But I don't always have to have one. In fact, I only quit because in NJ, the tax is about 70%! I certainly see a lot more people smoking than you do. Here, there are often more people outside having a smoke at a bar than there are inside. And at my company, I'd guess a little less than half the people smoke. (Then there are those who don't but want to "bum one.")

I don't dispute your poll numbers, but it depends on where it comes from. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, there are approx between 45 - 50 million people who admit to smoking in the US. That is a lot of people still enjoying that freedom. Now, if numbers come from the govt or an anti-smoking organization (i.e. any with a vested interest) then I always know the real numbers are higher. Numbers are skewed (like Nielsen TV ratings), dependent on who they ask. And, who actually admits it. For example, I've come across different kids over the years who have said they were polled if they ever smoked pot. They were always promised their answers would be confidential. Every one that I've heard of replied "No." But every one of them actually DID in reality. They just didn't believe, given todays technology, that anything is truly confidential. (Smart kids!)

Anyway, did not mean to go off-topic with polemics! Back to our regularly scheduled discussion, hopefully still in progress!
post #255 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Joel Clemons View Post


I don't dispute your poll numbers, but it depends on where it comes from. My figures aren't decades-old. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, approx 23.1% of males smoke and 18.3% of women do. That's 41.4% as of less than 2 years back.

That's where your math is incorrect. You don't add the two together, you add the two and then divide them. 23.1 + 18.3 = 41.4 / 2 = 20.7....

Let's say you had 100 men and 100 ladies. About 23 men smoke and about 18 ladies smoke. That is a total of 41 people who smoke out of 200 people. 41 divided by 200 equals 20.5%....
post #256 of 1447
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Originally Posted by lymzy View Post


lol!
post #257 of 1447
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Originally Posted by bobby94928 View Post

That's where your math is incorrect. You don't add the two together, you add the two and then divide them. 23.1 + 18.3 = 41.4 / 2 = 20.7....

You're right, of course. I actually caught it after I posted and have amended the response. I've actually seen varying numbers...from 43 million to 48 million to 53 million people. Apologies for the confusion and thanks!
post #258 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Not until we saw Nucky reveal some of his (secret) past to Margaret did the burning make sense. Prior to that it seemed like he was doing a good deed - which was his complete intent at the time.

larry

Actually, I don't think Nucky, impulsively, decided to torch the house until his father crassly demeaned him in front of the boy. He just no longer wanted the place where his father treated him so harshly to exist. Period.

fafner
post #259 of 1447
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post
Your percentages are decades old. Smoking keeps declining and is between 20%-23% right now.
I'm surprised that anyone can still afford to buy cig's these days.

As a ex-smoker, frankly I'm more disturbed by the depiction of "Lucky" passing on his "gift" than anything else ...
post #260 of 1447
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Originally Posted by fafner View Post

Actually, I don't think Nucky, impulsively, decided to torch the house until his father crassly demeaned him in front of the boy. He just no longer wanted the place where his father treated him so harshly to exist. Period.

fafner

Good point. Or that sealed the deal after him reliving things when talking to Margaret vs. that one thing by itself caused him to torch the place.

larry
post #261 of 1447
Another fantastic episode this week. We see lots of people doing the right things for the wrong reasons, flawed characters everywhere. Wow, Nucky trusting Margaret with "The Ledger" is an interesting move. I smell some cliffhangers coming for the season finale.
post #262 of 1447
For a guy as smart as Nucky to leave a ledger book full of sensitive and damming information in an unsecured location is not believeable to me. Did I miss something?
post #263 of 1447
I commented on the same thing to my wife. Not Nucky smarts....
post #264 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Gandu View Post

For a guy as smart as Nucky to leave a ledger book full of sensitive and damming information in an unsecured location is not believeable to me. Did I miss something?

Considering how he said to his brother, "how long have we been doing this and nothing ever happened," and his brother was supposed to watch over things, I would say he felt pretty safe.
post #265 of 1447
I assumed that brother was in charge of the ledger and needed to have access to it. He was overseeing the collections, after all.
post #266 of 1447
another great episode

my only question is about the FBI agent. The letters w/ money in them, were they going to his wife unopened, or to someone else? And why doesn't he want his wife to get pregnant ?
post #267 of 1447
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Originally Posted by NorthJersey View Post

another great episode

my only question is about the FBI agent. The letters w/ money in them, were they going to his wife unopened, or to someone else? And why doesn't he want his wife to get pregnant ?

The letters were from Jimmy in Chi-town to his wife in AC. The agent intercepted them and threw them in the drawer. It's hard to tell if he was going to send the cash to his wife and then changed his mind or his inner demons were bothering him for intercepting the cash (the current issues with his wife got him thinking) and he decided to send the money to Jimmy's wife and then sent the "no" letter to his wife - all keeping with his view of "God's will".

larry
post #268 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

The letters were from Jimmy in Chi-town to his wife in AC. The agent intercepted them and threw them in the drawer. It's hard to tell if he was going to send the cash to his wife and then changed his mind or his inner demons were bothering him for intercepting the cash (the current issues with his wife got him thinking) and he decided to send the money to Jimmy's wife and then sent the "no" letter to his wife - all keeping with his view of "God's will".

larry

The money thing confused me too. How/why did the FBI guy intercept the letters?
post #269 of 1447
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

The money thing confused me too. How/why did the FBI guy intercept the letters?

They showed it this week. One of the postal workers comes over and says something like "We got another one" and hands over the letter. That's why Jimmy told Nucky in Chicago that he writes every week and never hears back. Either the agent was just being a jerk or maybe trying to get the wife to do something that would cause Jimmy to come back to AC. Hard to tell or maybe I missed something.

larry
post #270 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

They showed it this week. One of the postal workers comes over and says something like "We got another one" and hands over the letter. That's why Jimmy told Nucky in Chicago that he writes every week and never hears back. Either the agent was just being a jerk or maybe trying to get the wife to do something that would cause Jimmy to come back to AC. Hard to tell or maybe I missed something.

larry

Ah, OK, I thought Jimmie was BS'ing Nucky about writing, so didn't connect it.
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