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post #751 of 1447
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Richard is no dummy.
IMO, he also strongly suspects Jimmy was killed because of his war with Nuck's outfit and others.
Who didn't want to SEE the scene where Nucky finds out his nest-egg, his future is gone?
His wife, who he married out of the necessity of circumstances, went behind his back and gave it away to an institution he despised?
Who didn't want to SEE the scene where she tries to explain it away to him face-to-face?
Who didn't want to SEE Nuck internally (thru SB's eyes and face) debate whether to shoot her on the spot?
A severely missed opportunity for some of the most powerful drama this show has ever had.rolleyes.gif

Maybe they still will in some sort of flashback but they want to set the stage with some post blow up drama.

After all we are all curious why she is still there. Maybe the church is pulling big strings? Maybe he got a big chip with the church?
Maybe she has dirt hidden on him, after all she did get all the evidence from his office. Maybe he is still trying to get something back before he takes her out.

It's only been one episode. They are giving us a little foreplay first.
post #752 of 1447
Q&A with Boardwalk Empire creator Terence Winter

Q: After Margaret gives the land away, I was expecting nuck to be more furious. Is this the last we see of this situation? Or will it rise up?

TW: Last night's premiere was set 14 months after that even took place so it's safe to assume Nucky was furious when he found out. What we're seeing now is the residual effects of that event as it affects their relationship.
post #753 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Now cut that out! As I said in my last post, I am trying really hard to forgive Boardwalk Empire's writers for their having failed to show us the blowup that must have occurred when Nucky discovered that Margaret had betrayed him and given away his nest egg, and you're not helping.smile.gif
Sorry...my bad.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by zalusky View Post

Maybe they still will in some sort of flashback but they want to set the stage with some post blow up drama.
After all we are all curious why she is still there. Maybe the church is pulling big strings? Maybe he got a big chip with the church?
Maybe she has dirt hidden on him, after all she did get all the evidence from his office. Maybe he is still trying to get something back before he takes her out.
It's only been one episode. They are giving us a little foreplay first.
The foreplay was LAST season.
At a certain point, the goods have to be delivered.tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by Gandu View Post

Q&A with Boardwalk Empire creator Terence Winter
Q: After Margaret gives the land away, I was expecting nuck to be more furious. Is this the last we see of this situation? Or will it rise up?
TW: Last night's premiere was set 14 months after that even took place so it's safe to assume Nucky was furious when he found out. What we're seeing now is the residual effects of that event as it affects their relationship.
Nonetheless, it was stupid.
Why seperate last season's storyline by 14 months from this season's start?
What purpose does it really serve?

Like I said, a dumb move....at least, dramatically.
In fact, I can't recall another screw-up of this magnitude from BE before.
post #754 of 1447
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Sorry...my bad.wink.gif
Why seperate last season's storyline by 14 months from this season's start?
What purpose does it really serve?

I really don't mind not seeing the Nucky / Margreat blow-up over the land deed (either he would kill her or not-simple).

The time lapse really only allows for Eli's character to return from prison this season.

After watching B.S.G. and Mad Men take leaps in time its not a big deal for Boardwalk Empire to do the same.

I trust the show's creator, writers and directors - I believe this show is still improving.
post #755 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

I trust the show's creator, writers and directors - I believe this show is still improving.

Although I have loved Boardwalk Empire from the jump, I agree that it just keeps getting better. Each season new and intriguing characters are introduced and a few more unexpectedly eliminated, All of that is enhanced by the best production values in television: incredible, and incredibly beautiful, CGI, sets, and period costumes.
post #756 of 1447
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I really don't mind not seeing the Nucky / Margreat blow-up over the land deed (either he would kill her or not-simple).
The time lapse really only allows for Eli's character to return from prison this season.
After watching B.S.G. and Mad Men take leaps in time its not a big deal for Boardwalk Empire to do the same.
I trust the show's creator, writers and directors - I believe this show is still improving.

In real life Nucky lived a long time so maybe it's more important to move along to interesting time periods. How would you feel if they opened with the fight and then said 18 months later. It would not feel right.
Mad Men does the time jumping with cliff hangers as well and I don't see people complaining there.
post #757 of 1447
this NY Post article describes what happened in real life with Nucky Thompson. I won't go into much details due to spoilers, if the writers decide to try to parallel BE with Nucky's real life story
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/steve_buscemi_as_nucky_thompson_35Eo58rVrOqfO77Jp9787O
post #758 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

All of that is enhanced by the best production values in television: incredible, and incredibly beautiful, CGI, sets, and period costumes.

Absolutely - from the set dressing to the photography, just sublime. I really appreciate their effort, it adds so much to the show.
Edited by fjames - 9/19/12 at 9:55pm
post #759 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

All of that is enhanced by the best production values in television: incredible, and incredibly beautiful, CGI, sets, and period costumes.

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Originally Posted by fjames View Post

Absolutely - from the set dressing to the photography, just sublime. I really appreciate their effort, it ads so much to the show.

+1 x 2.....Boardwalk Empire is put together so well, its one of the rare TV shows that actually improves upon repeat viewings.

Its true art....with so much attention to detail- it can't all be taken in or appreciated if seen only once.
post #760 of 1447
Eli has been sprung.
Question is: will he meltdown or try to forget the past?

Rosetti signed his own Death Warrant...with an exclamation point.
After what he did, everyone will be trying to put him down ASAP.
Hopefully, the showrunners won't drag it out unnecessarily.

Margaret continues to be a pain in everyone's behind.

Nuck is miserable and rightly suspicious of everyone and everything.
post #761 of 1447
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Eli has been sprung.
Question is: will he meltdown or try to forget the past?
Rosetti signed his own Death Warrant...with an exclamation point.
After what he did, everyone will be trying to put him down ASAP.
Hopefully, the showrunners won't drag it out unnecessarily.

How did he turn the sheriff on his side so quickly? That part I don't get.
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Margaret continues to be a pain in everyone's behind.

Every scene with her is painful. Someone needs to remove the stick that is up her ass.
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Nuck is miserable and rightly suspicious of everyone and everything.

I am waiting for that razor blade to show up in a future scene.
post #762 of 1447
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

How did he turn the sheriff on his side so quickly? That part I don't get.

The same way Nucky probably got him to "turn" money and intimidation...Fromt eh looks of it the Sherriff might not have been 100% behind what was going on, otherwise he wouldnt have said "sorry"...
post #763 of 1447
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post


Every scene with her is painful. Someone needs to remove the stick that is up her ass.
And stick it thru her chest.

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I am waiting for that razor blade to show up in a future scene.
Nuck was being really clever....he is trying to see if another male is/will use the razor.wink.gif

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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

The same way Nucky probably got him to "turn" money and intimidation...Fromt eh looks of it the Sherriff might not have been 100% behind what was going on, otherwise he wouldnt have said "sorry"...
Agreed.
post #764 of 1447
I actually appreciate Margreat (strong female lead) ..Nucky's new lady gets on my nerves.

Rosetti isn't just a maniac, he's a smart - strategizing psycho.

I like how Chalky has "turned" his old enemy into a henchman.

Eli sure is slumming, Mickey Doyle is great comic relief.

That fish-bowl encounter was strange.......
post #765 of 1447
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

How did he turn the sheriff on his side so quickly? That part I don't get.

Did you see how many men Rosetti had with him? Not a good idea to refuse his advances.
post #766 of 1447
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

Did you see how many men Rosetti had with him? Not a good idea to refuse his advances.
Yeah, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor....wink.gif
post #767 of 1447
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

That fish-bowl encounter was strange.......

The payoff in the fishbowl scene was indeed strange. I was really glad to see that the man in charge of receiving the payoffs, and apparently Harry Daugherty's bagman, is the eminently strange Gaston Bullock Means, played by the eminently talented Stephen Root.

I am continuing to enjoy Nucky's current mistress, the young, vivacious, and beautiful Billie. I fear for Billie's safety, though, because Nucky won't put up with betrayal. Billie apparently thinks her youth and beauty make her bulletproof but I suspect that Nucky will prove her wrong.
Edited by gwsat - 9/25/12 at 11:02am
post #768 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The payoff in the fishbowl scene was indeed strange. I was really glad to see that the man in charge of receiving the payoffs, and apparently Harry Daugherty's bagman, is the eminently strange Gaston Bullock Means, played by the eminently talented Stephen Root.
I am continuing to enjoy Nucky's current mistress, the young, vivacious, and beautiful Billie. I fear for Billie's safety, though, because Nucky won't put up with betrayal. Billie apparently thinks her youth and beauty make her bulletproof but I suspect that Nucky will prove her wrong.

Speaking of Billie--is there a consensus on who's calling her? Not sure if I closed my eyes and missed that part. Is it Rothstein or someone of that ilk who's tasked her to keep an eye on Nucky (or keep him out of AC....or in NYC for that matter?)
post #769 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I am continuing to enjoy Nucky's current mistress, the young, vivacious, and beautiful Billie. I fear for Billie's safety, though, because Nucky won't put up with betrayal. Billie apparently thinks her youth and beauty make her bulletproof but I suspect that Nucky will prove her wrong.

It doesn't appear that Nucky is paying her rent, etc. It seems that he assumed he was the only guy in her life, which he obviously is not. She looks pretty independent to me, like many "flappers" of that era.

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Speaking of Billie--is there a consensus on who's calling her? Not sure if I closed my eyes and missed that part. Is it Rothstein or someone of that ilk who's tasked her to keep an eye on Nucky (or keep him out of AC....or in NYC for that matter?)

The last call was from Nucky's right hand man. The others are still a mystery.
post #770 of 1447
Boy, they are really masters of scenes that build tension, this ep. was full of them. We know Rosetti is capable of going off at any time, so any scene with him has you holding your breath, particularly around civilians. Well done!
post #771 of 1447
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Originally Posted by adpayne View Post

It doesn't appear that Nucky is paying her rent, etc. It seems that he assumed he was the only guy in her life, which he obviously is not. She looks pretty independent to me, like many "flappers" of that era.
The last call was from Nucky's right hand man. The others are still a mystery.

I had assumed that Nucky was supporting Billie but if he isn't, it seems to me that he can't expect her to see him exclusively.

Had forgotten that the second call, which Nucky told Billie not to answer was actually a call for Nucky from his ace helper, Owen Slater. What a deliciously ironic twist! Nucky missed a vitally important call from Owen to inform him that Gyp had thwarted a liquor delivery because Nucky was jealous of Billie's other admirers. No wonder I love this show!smile.gif
post #772 of 1447
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Billie apparently thinks her youth and beauty make her bulletproof but I suspect that Nucky will prove her wrong.
If you're gonna f_ck Nuck, remember to duck.tongue.gif
post #773 of 1447
and Richard took care of the butcher! That blew me out of my seat!
post #774 of 1447
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Originally Posted by quad4.0 View Post

and Richard took care of the butcher! That blew me out of my seat!
I don't think anyone here saw that coming.eek.gif
post #775 of 1447
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I don't think anyone here saw that coming.eek.gif
I did. Richard says he's going to meet a "friend" A couple of personal vignettes with the butcher's wife. Knock or ring at the door...kablooey...telegraphed wink.gif
post #776 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I did. Richard says he's going to meet a "friend" A couple of personal vignettes with the butcher's wife. Knock or ring at the door...kablooey...telegraphed wink.gif
Exactly! Before he ever opened the door, I said, "This isn't good." Double kablooey!!
post #777 of 1447
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I don't think anyone here saw that [Richard killing the butcher] coming.eek.gif

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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I did. Richard says he's going to meet a "friend" A couple of personal vignettes with the butcher's wife. Knock or ring at the door...kablooey...telegraphed wink.gif

i didn't see it coming, either, but if I had remembered that the butcher had murdered Jimmy's wife Angela the hints Ron describes might have tipped me off. As it was, I was gobsmacked when the butcher answered his front door and Richard blew his brains out.
post #778 of 1447
Hey guys, I'm brand new in here. I went back and read a few pages of this thread and I'm so glad I found this forum! I've been DYING to talk about Boardwalk Empire with other fans because it's such an amazing show! I've been watching since day one of season one. The moment I saw the previews, I knew this show was for me!


Anyway, here are some of my thoughts:

- I'm irritated at Nucky for having a new lady. Then again, I guess I have a soft spot for Margaret in the beginning. I love that she's a strong character but I'm not sure I understand WTF she's doing and why.
- When Richard waxed the Butcher, I screamed at the TV and shouted "Oh $h!T!" - Completely unexpected!
- Poor Jimmy. Even though he was not my favorite character, I thought he would have had more time on the series esp since they waxed Angela so abruptly.
- The former FBI agent, Van Alden is so freaking annoying. His story is so blah and I was hoping someone would have murked him last season.
post #779 of 1447
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

I did. Richard says he's going to meet a "friend" A couple of personal vignettes with the butcher's wife. Knock or ring at the door...kablooey...telegraphed wink.gif
Well, I guess I am more naive than you are.tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by stephaniet View Post

Hey guys, I'm brand new in here. I went back and read a few pages of this thread and I'm so glad I found this forum! I've been DYING to talk about Boardwalk Empire with other fans because it's such an amazing show! I've been watching since day one of season one. The moment I saw the previews, I knew this show was for me!
Anyway, here are some of my thoughts:
- I'm irritated at Nucky for having a new lady. Then again, I guess I have a soft spot for Margaret in the beginning. I love that she's a strong character but I'm not sure I understand WTF she's doing and why.
- When Richard waxed the Butcher, I screamed at the TV and shouted "Oh $h!T!" - Completely unexpected!
- Poor Jimmy. Even though he was not my favorite character, I thought he would have had more time on the series esp since they waxed Angela so abruptly.
- The former FBI agent, Van Alden is so freaking annoying. His story is so blah and I was hoping someone would have murked him last season.
First of all: WELCOME!

I think Margaret is approaching a point of No Return with Nuck and will have to be dealt with: Nucky Style.wink.gif

Van Alden is probably the most nuts of anyone on the show, which makes him fun IMO.
post #780 of 1447
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Well, I guess I am more naive than you are.tongue.gif
First of all: WELCOME!
I think Margaret is approaching a point of No Return with Nuck and will have to be dealt with: Nucky Style.wink.gif
Van Alden is probably the most nuts of anyone on the show, which makes him fun IMO.

Thank you!

True. Margaret going into dangerous grounds but I don't think she cares. Not to call her out but she pulled the trigger first by cheating on Nucky with that sexy Irish guy who works for Nuck. I just like that she was like "you can't speak a word!" The lady of the house gets what she wants.

Van Alden has this storyline that I just can't seem to like. He's so out of whack and reminds me of some of my gfs who have issues: unstable!
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