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post #361 of 387
I've had my Vision3D 156b for a month now. I've noticed that sometimes video playback is great (Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, etc.), but sometimes video hitches like crazy. Like the frames are getting lost or sticking - so when a camera pans left to right it jerks quite a bit, not smooth like it was on my Roku box.

I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate. All the drivers are from ASRock's page (no Windows update drivers). 1920x1080 60hz via HDMI. Pioneer Elite 60" Plasma.

Are there any procedures I need to run to smooth out the video? And diagnostics I can run to see if things are setup correctly?
post #362 of 387
I've had mine for about the same time. Works great except I get the same stuttering you refer to mainly during BD playback. I've tried manually changing refresh rate to 24hz while watching blurays but still see stuttering. Running win 7 pro, beta drivers from Asrock website and using Cyberlink OEM pdvd10.

Anyone able to resolve similar issues?
post #363 of 387
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Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

ASRock has updated the drivers on their website:

Any official news about updated graphic drivers? They are still in Beta phase since February
post #364 of 387
I have tried everything. 23hz, 24, 59, 60... The beta drivers for nvidia. 1080p video and 720p video stutters in Youtube, Hulu and Netflix. I am occationally seeing tearing too. While watching HD streaming, CPU is around 20% so its not a CPU issue. GPU rating on Win 7 is quite high, so the video chip should be powerful enough.

The stuttering and occational tearing is really getting annoying. Any advice?
post #365 of 387
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Originally Posted by Dewg View Post

I have tried everything. 23hz, 24, 59, 60... The beta drivers for nvidia. 1080p video and 720p video stutters in Youtube, Hulu and Netflix. I am occationally seeing tearing too. While watching HD streaming, CPU is around 20% so its not a CPU issue. GPU rating on Win 7 is quite high, so the video chip should be powerful enough.

The stuttering and occational tearing is really getting annoying. Any advice?

I was considering getting this device, but I'm very sensitive to motion problems. Any judder or tearing annoys me immediately. I have a Sony HX903 television which is considered to have about the best motion handling available, and I still notice the slight judder effect remaining after the interpolation it does on 24Hz material.

My question is; is the stuttering and tearing you are seeing, only on Youtube, Hulu and Netflix, or is it present on mkv's also (movies and tv-series)?
Is it also present when using XBMC? Since I believe XBMC auto adjusts the display frequency to the source material.
post #366 of 387
I am starting to notice that the judder is due to certain videos. I just watched a movie on Netflix that was smooth. I ran a 1080p test video on YouTube that was smooth. It may be that the shows I was watching just happened to be poorly encoded. I have not tried playing local media files, just streaming.

I upgraded the nVidia drivers to the latest drivers from nVidias site. This requied editing the install files so the setup would detect the card.
post #367 of 387
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Originally Posted by Dewg View Post
I upgraded the nVidia drivers to the latest drivers from nVidias site. This requied editing the install files so the setup would detect the card.
Can you explain how you did this? I've tried editing the files in the past as I could never get the drivers from the Nvidia site to install, but have never got anything other than the ASrock supplied drivers to install.
post #368 of 387
Sure thing...

Download the latest drivers for the nVidia 425M. Run the install which will extract the files to C:\\NVIDIA\\[version]\\Vista\\International

Go to: c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\[version]\\Vista\\International\\Display.Driver

You will see a file called nvmm.inf - edit that file in notepad.

In the section [Manufacturer] there are two subsections:

[NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.0] and [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.1]

In the first section, add the following:

%NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section006, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A

In the second section, add the following:

%NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section008, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A

Save the file and run the SETUP.EXE in the c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\266.58\\Vista\\International folder. Should work now.

BTW - this if for 32-bit Windows 7. If you're using 64-bit the sections in the INF file will be NTamd64 instead of x86.
post #369 of 387
This is how I got it to work with Win7 x64.

1. Download the appropriately modified INF file from this location

2. Download the drivers from NVIDIA and try to install it. All the files are extracted usually to C:\\NVIDIA\\...

3. Navigate into the extracted location and go into DisplayDriver folder and place the modified INF file there (you will need to backup the original nvwi.inf in that folder). (not the location mentioned in the link in Step 1.

4. Run setup.exe from 1 level higher up. It should install fine.
post #370 of 387
I bought the ASRock ION 3D. It overheats, turns off then freezes on reboot. It's only using an atom cpu. How hard could it be to ventilate for an atom processor. ASRock has succeeded in doing the nearly impossible, they know how to overheat an atom cpu. Also, it will not play HD. It is advertised as an HD media pc. I installed Windows7 64bit SP1 with WMP. I tried other media player software with the same results. I assume the ION gpu could not handle 1080i or 1080p.

Part of it's overheating problem is due to the fact that the pc sits on a little rubber mat that doesn't provide any air flow to the underside of the case. If you pick it up, the bottom is hot even at idle which means the whole mobo is hot since it's mounted at the bottom of the case. I put the pc up on some corks for a temporary fix and the temps ran somewhat cooler and seemed to eliminated some of the overheating problem.

I bought it from Newegg, the return policy was replacement only, no refunds. I yelled at the guy on the phone long enough to convince him to give me a credit rather than sending me another piece of crap. I realize that there are probably a bunch of different "try this, try that" fixes and workarounds. If I can build a computer that works the first time you fire it up, then I don't want to own a piece of crap that needs to be fixed as soon as you turn it on. The computer was a joke, I used the Newegg credit to buy components for a new build. Actually the computer was for my mother. I wasn't about to let my mother lose $450 on a computer that didn't work. I built her a great i3 system using the 2105 which was just released this quarter, Q2 2011. Just waiting on the fans to be delivered. Yes, I said fans! ASRock, are you listening you morons?

-Pants
post #371 of 387
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakmal View Post

This is how I got it to work with Win7 x64.

1. Download the appropriately modified INF file from this location

2. Download the drivers from NVIDIA and try to install it. All the files are extracted usually to C:\\NVIDIA\\...

3. Navigate into the extracted location and go into DisplayDriver folder and place the modified INF file there (you will need to backup the original nvwi.inf in that folder). (not the location mentioned in the link in Step 1.

4. Run setup.exe from 1 level higher up. It should install fine.

Don't suppose you could use your contacts to see if there is any update on this post by yourself

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=335

Hopefully it wasn't a false promise made to you and we'll be able to install drivers direct from the Nvidia site without all this mucking around.
post #372 of 387
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewg View Post

Sure thing...

Download the latest drivers for the nVidia 425M. Run the install which will extract the files to C:\\NVIDIA\\[version]\\Vista\\International

Go to: c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\[version]\\Vista\\International\\Display.Driver

You will see a file called nvmm.inf - edit that file in notepad.

In the section [Manufacturer] there are two subsections:

[NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.0] and [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.1]

In the first section, add the following:

%NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section006, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A

In the second section, add the following:

%NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section008, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A

Save the file and run the SETUP.EXE in the c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\266.58\\Vista\\International folder. Should work now.

BTW - this if for 32-bit Windows 7. If you're using 64-bit the sections in the INF file will be NTamd64 instead of x86.

Thanks I'll try jakmal's method first as that look simpler then try yours if that doesn't work, as I'm on Win 7 32 bit hopefully I'll have success with one of them.
post #373 of 387
Hi, folks. New to the forum. I just got the Vision 3d to use as an HTPC, and I am debating whether to attach my media HDD's directly to the Vision 3d, or to set up a home network via Windows Home Server 2011 on a separate machine (I have an old laptop that I can repurpose).

The way I'm thinking about it, since I'll be watching my movies almost entirely on my living room TV, there really is no need to do a separate server. Especially since iTunes can also share music, etc., as is.

Is there anything particularly compelling about Windows Home Server than you guys think would make it worth setting up?

Thanks,

Jeff
post #374 of 387
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewg View Post

Sure thing...
Download the latest drivers for the nVidia 425M. Run the install which will extract the files to C:\\NVIDIA\\[version]\\Vista\\International Go to: c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\[version]\\Vista\\International\\Display.Driver
You will see a file called nvmm.inf - edit that file in notepad. In the section [Manufacturer] there are two subsections: [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.0] and [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTx86.6.1]
In the first section, add the following: %NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section006, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A
In the second section, add the following: %NVIDIA_DEV.0DF0.01% = Section008, PCI\\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DF0&SUBSYS_90771B0A
Save the file and run the SETUP.EXE in the c:\\NVIDIA\\DisplayDriver\\266.58\\Vista\\International folder. Should work now. BTW - this if for 32-bit Windows 7. If you're using 64-bit the sections in the INF file will be NTamd64 instead of x86.

===

This worked fine for the installation. THANKS. Very clear instructions.

BUT..
Now my second display is wacky. Wacky means...
Win7 boots using the DVI connection on this older 15" screen, then switches to the new HDMI 24" monitor...But then instead of two screens, Win7 turns off the first monitor. When I move windows around, I can tell that the OS thinks the 15" monitor is on, but the signal has been turned off for some reason.

Any suggestions? I disabled and removed the device via Control Panel. No help.
Really weird.

I disconnected the HDMI cable and the system boots to the 15" monitor, but the monitor still gets shut off. I plugged the HDMI cable back in and the system is there on the 24" waiting and ready.

So I did everything again. Back to Safe Mode, ran Driver Sweeper, reinstalled 275.33 in normal mode with only the 15" DVI monitor. HDMI monitor was NOT connected at all. Everything was normal and the install proceeded normally on the 15" monitor. On final reboot, the 15" monitor was SHUT OFF. I plugged in the HDMI and there was the Win7 desktop waiting. The 15" monitor off without signal.

Rmmm
post #375 of 387
Friends I have two issues with my loved asrock vision 3D and I hope you can help me solve it.

first I have a samsung un46c8000 hooked to it, I used the 3D resolution setting 1900x1080p 24hz and it worked perfectly the desktop looked great everything was perfect I decided to update the driver and now the desktop is out of the frame and text look weird. I have the latest nvidia driver from nvidia.

The second issue I have is I bought a Rii mini keyboard, it works fine with my laptop but it wont auto install itself in the vision 3D, both my laptop and htpc have the same win7 64bits so I dont know what the hell is happening.
post #376 of 387
I am in the process of setting up an ASRock Vision 3D 137B as an HTPC. I am using an HDHomerun dual tuner box for live TV sourcing. This was working well until I updated the nVidia drivers today. Since updating the nVidia drivers from the ASRock website, the audio on live TV is slightly off. It seems to be just slightly ahead of the video. I am using an HDMI connection for for both video and audio from PC to the television. Previously recorded TV and internet-sourced video seems to play without the synchronization problem. Does anyone know of a way to fix this? This is my first HTPC, so I apologize if this is a noob question.
post #377 of 387
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Originally Posted by Leo1234 View Post

I am in the process of setting up an ASRock Vision 3D 137B as an HTPC. I am using an HDHomerun dual tuner box for live TV sourcing. This was working well until I updated the nVidia drivers today. Since updating the nVidia drivers from the ASRock website, the audio on live TV is slightly off. It seems to be just slightly ahead of the video. I am using an HDMI connection for for both video and audio from PC to the television. Previously recorded TV and internet-sourced video seems to play without the synchronization problem. Does anyone know of a way to fix this? This is my first HTPC, so I apologize if this is a noob question.

I also have sync issues. It seems that DVDs & BluRays (from discs or rips) all are fine. TV content is all off. Not sure why.

I'm running all through HDMI as well.

I've learned to live with it as it is off by just a fraction of a second. But if I pay attention, it is noticeable.

What version of video driver are you using?

-Tim
post #378 of 387
The nVidia graphics driver version is 266.35. When I upgraded the driver it also installed PhysX and HD Audio drivers. I just uninstalled the HD Audio driver and that seems to have fixed the syncing issue. However, it reintroduced another problem...

If I have WMC open and I put the machine to sleep by hitting the power button on the remote, I can wake it up by pressing the power button again. It wakes up directly into WMC (as desired), but there is no sound. I have to shut down WMC and reopen it to get sound working again. It is annoying, but, not nearly as annoying as the out-of-sync audio.
post #379 of 387
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo1234 View Post

The nVidia graphics driver version is 266.35. When I upgraded the driver it also installed PhysX and HD Audio drivers. I just uninstalled the HD Audio driver and that seems to have fixed the syncing issue. However, it reintroduced another problem...

If I have WMC open and I put the machine to sleep by hitting the power button on the remote, I can wake it up by pressing the power button again. It wakes up directly into WMC (as desired), but there is no sound. I have to shut down WMC and reopen it to get sound working again. It is annoying, but, not nearly as annoying as the out-of-sync audio.

I'll try to the uninstalled HD Audio Driver... I'll let you know what I find.

-Tim
post #380 of 387
how has the asrock vision 3d been working for ppl for full 3d bd iso playback?

still thinking of getting one for this as the Sigma smp8910 based chip eta is still unknown and nm'ts using it even further off.

the real tek chip based media players that can do 3d bd iso supposedly dotn have the license or something and something about quality not being the best.

i'm thinking best option would be a 3d bd player that can play 3d bd isos from attached ext. hdd like suposedly some oppo models can do as the htpc seems like too much trouble to install os and bd player etc. etc. plus xbmc.
post #381 of 387
I haven't used it for 3D bluray ISOs, but I use it all the time for regular BluRay ISOs (store all the ISOs on a Buffalo Terastation and connect the ASrock via gigabit. Plays flawlessly.

-Tim
post #382 of 387
Sorry for posting on this thread but I am thinking 2nd gen/1st gen are similar models.

I am loving my Asrock Vision 3D 252B- expensive yes- £800 in the UK!- but fits in with my London flat and has a very small footprint. Fitted it with my SSD and it flies like the wind- and pretty near silent. Just wish Microsoft would integrate Blu-Ray into Windows....!
Just one problem- sleep and shut down. The thing won't go to sleep- it instantly reawakens itself. If I press shutdown via windows it will also reawaken itself, but if I press the power button it shuts down for good. I think the ASRock Instant Boot may be the culprit- sorry to be so vague but I was wondering if anyone had any similar experiences/solutions
post #383 of 387
Hi Guys, I bought a Vision 3D back in November 2010 (just the front-loading i3 version with 4Gb RAM, Front-loading DVD etc.) which has worked perfectly up until last week.

Now the fan has stopped working and about 20 minutes after viewing a video, the machine switches off (due to Intel Thermal Cut-Off no doubt).

I cannot for the life of me find a receipt as to which dealer I bought it from - and I also cannot find any London reseller that might be able to replace the fan.

I am fairly technically minded and am thinking of replacing the fan myself - however I have no idea which model I need to purchase and how tricky it would be to replace.

Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to what model the fan is and where I could get a replacement?

Many thanks!
post #384 of 387
Best bet- just take it out and then go to Yoyo tech off Totenham Court Road
post #385 of 387
Hey guys, I finally heard back from ASRock and they want 50 Euros for a replacement fan from the netherlands, so around £50 all in all with postage. This seems rather excessive frankly!

Would anyone care to guess whether any other fan might be suitable instead of the one attached in the pic? I am guessing I could get away with a normal fan and just run it higher .. eg. something without the heat-sync to the GPU?

Many thanks!
C.
LL
post #386 of 387
Morpheus- Although they are very easy to open up, mine is tucked away in my TV cabinet. If I remember rightly the fan connection is just a standard one- right?? Is it possible to put another fan of the same size within the heatsink?- although that curve will mean it is not a usual one- but if you live in London then Tottenham Court Road, and especially Yoyo tech are your best bet- as I am sure you know already.
post #387 of 387
New ASrock HTPCs coming out later in 2012- the VisionX looks like a real HTPC/Gaming machine combo


http://www.anandtech.com/show/5883/a...nd-mini-series
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