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post #721 of 1508
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Originally Posted by aznmode View Post

It's most likely IPS since the colors dont fade or wash out even in extreme angles. But either way it's going back. My Samsung c630 is way sharper.

This model has a matte screen. I believe you will have to step up to the LE8500 to have a glossy screen unfortunately.
post #722 of 1508
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Originally Posted by Codename_Falcon View Post

This model has a matte screen. I believe you will have to step up to the LE8500 to have a glossy screen unfortunately.

Im not wanting a glossy screen due to too much glare. My sammy c630 is matte as well.
post #723 of 1508
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Originally Posted by NomisQc View Post

Hey guys...

Just got a 47LE5400 today and I find the set to be very cloudy.

Do you think I have a bad unit or this amount of clouding is normal ?

There is absolutely no light in the room so it is not reflections. There is a big spot in the middle, 4 medium spots in the corners and several small spots along the edges.

Thanks !



Wow thats really bad. Get it exchanged and get one with a "W" in the serial number. Those have IPS panels and do not suffer that much clouding. The set I got doesnt have any at all.
post #724 of 1508
As far as the TruMotion 120 hz goes, has anyone else noticed that when it's on, it creates an artifact around a moving object with a still background? Everything else in the picture runs smooth, but moving objects have a distortion around them. Just something I noticed, don't know if it's normal....
post #725 of 1508
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Originally Posted by aznmode View Post

Wow thats really bad. Get it exchanged and get one with a "W" in the serial number. Those have IPS panels and do not suffer that much clouding. The set I got doesnt have any at all.

It does have a W in the serial number and I believe it is an IPS panel since the picture is good from every angle.

It is not noticeable when watching something but it shows in the black borders of a ultra widescreen movie.

Otherwise the image is superb, especially while gaming.

Any other input ?
post #726 of 1508
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Originally Posted by NomisQc View Post

It does have a W in the serial number and I believe it is an IPS panel since the picture is good from every angle.

It is not noticeable when watching something but it shows in the black borders of a ultra widescreen movie.

Otherwise the image is superb, especially while gaming.

Any other input ?

If I had a screen with clouding in the center like that I would definitely exchange it for another. If switching it for another set isn't possible then you'll have to lower backlight and brightness settings to reduce the intensity of the flashlights and clouds. I have my backlight set to 10-20 depending on how bright my room is and leave brightness at 55, which keeps the flashlights from washing out dark colors and allows for vibrant colors. Test your screen some more to see if you can learn to ignore the clouding, otherwise I suggest an exchange.

The other never-mentioned alternative is to loosen the screws about 1/4th of a turn (maximum). I have been reading the forums trying to find more information before I try it myself, but it seems that loosening the screws on the corners can help with these problems. This is more of a last-ditch effort, though, and seems unnecessary unless the light bleed is extremely distracting.

Good luck!

Edit: It also seems that people have found success using the microfiber cloth and gently rubbing the screen in the area of clouding. Worth a shot.
post #727 of 1508
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Originally Posted by tossup View Post

Good luck!

Edit: It also seems that people have found success using the microfiber cloth and gently rubbing the screen in the area of clouding. Worth a shot.

Thanks for the reply.

I did "massage" my tv last night (weird sentence there) and managed to get the clouding a little better.

I will take a couple of days to see if I can live with it or if it bothers me too much because I would really like to keep this TV as I find the image absolutely gorgeous otherwise.
post #728 of 1508
My wife and I were talking about getting a couple of 42" for a couple of rooms, and I told her I was looking at the 42LE5400, so she went ahead and bought 2 of these at a local Best Buy near Laval...
I come home to this great surprise last night... only to be quite disappointed but the unbelievable backlight bleeding: all corners plus in the middle on the new TV in the bedroom.

So I come looking, find this thread, and start reading on the panel lottery: turns out that both sets were ACCD, meaning VA panels, instead of the ACCW IPS panels... off-center viewing was quite washed out, which I was wondering about since I had read that these were all IPS panels (on Amazon).

Anyways, both sets (didn't even open the second one) are back at Best Buy, and I am looking at other options. Pity because at $850 it was a decent deal for the supposed tech inside...

Thinking I might have to spend more and get another plasma - I have a 50" V10 from last year that is flawless

If I try to go for another LCD, I know there is a way to tell looking at the panel itself whether or not it is IPS (I think it's a pixel chevron patterm or something), but am unsure; can someone point me to a graphical example?

Thanks!
post #729 of 1508
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Originally Posted by michelito View Post

My wife and I were talking about getting a couple of 42" for a couple of rooms, and I told her I was looking at the 42LE5400, so she went ahead and bought 2 of these at a local Best Buy near Laval...
I come home to this great surprise last night... only to be quite disappointed but the unbelievable backlight bleeding: all corners plus in the middle on the new TV in the bedroom.

So I come looking, find this thread, and start reading on the panel lottery: turns out that both sets were ACCD, meaning VA panels, instead of the ACCW IPS panels... off-center viewing was quite washed out, which I was wondering about since I had read that these were all IPS panels (on Amazon).

Anyways, both sets (didn't even open the second one) are back at Best Buy, and I am looking at other options. Pity because at $850 it was a decent deal for the supposed tech inside...

Thinking I might have to spend more and get another plasma - I have a 50" V10 from last year that is flawless

If I try to go for another LCD, I know there is a way to tell looking at the panel itself whether or not it is IPS (I think it's a pixel chevron patterm or something), but am unsure; can someone point me to a graphical example?

Thanks!

Yep, for the S-IPS panel that this LG uses you'll see a chevron pixel shape which looks like little arrows (>>>). I believe the VA panel has rectangular pixels.

Unless you have a magnifying glass handy you can just look at the screen from an angle to see if the color distorts (indicating a VA), as the only panels that seem to be present in this line of TV are S-IPS or VA.

If you're going to look at LCD's that aren't this particular LG then you can run in to other pixel shapes, so make sure you check those too.
post #730 of 1508
Hey Michelito,

Sorry to hear you were not lucky at the LG ISP panel lottery !

Here is a picture I took of my screen using macro zoom.

You can clearly see the "chevron" shaped pixels:



Hope this helps !
post #731 of 1508
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Originally Posted by aznmode View Post

Wow thats really bad. Get it exchanged and get one with a "W" in the serial number. Those have IPS panels and do not suffer that much clouding. The set I got doesnt have any at all.

If he hasn't taken the time to do a true color calibration then that could explain a lot of the clouding. I'm sure most of us on this site have played around with calibration to a certain degree, but getting a real calibration virtually eliminates all of that clouding.
post #732 of 1508
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Originally Posted by SteveOhh View Post

If he hasn't taken the time to do a true color calibration then that could explain a lot of the clouding. I'm sure most of us on this site have played around with calibration to a certain degree, but getting a real calibration virtually eliminates all of that clouding.

Do you mean pay for a technician to come home and calibrate the screen ?

If not, I already played with the settings and it did help with the clouding but it is still visible in really dark scenes or in black borders.
post #733 of 1508
Thanks NomisQc! I'll look for that
post #734 of 1508
NomisQc: That clouding is some of the worst I have seen posted especially given the fact that you got an IPS panel. I returned a VA panel that had flashlighting in the corners and got another VA panel (all that was left in stock) and surprisingly got a good looking TV with very minimal flashlighting. If I were you, I would exchange the set for another IPS, because even if the new one you bring home has flashlighting/clouding I am sure it wouldn't be as bad as what you currently have. Hope you have better luck with a new set and if you keep your current set, hope you enjoy it as the picture qualiity on these sets is def something to look at!
post #735 of 1508
I'm toying with this screen using my PC over hdmi in ISF Expert 1 and I'm having trouble getting fonts to stay crisp without over-sharpening.

Horizontal sharpness has a noticeable jump in detail between 43 and 44, where it appears that text loses about a pixel's width of blur and becomes sharp. It also appears that test patterns have the least amount of halo effects for the amount of detail.

After going through vertical sharpness dozens of times I can't really hone in on any particular area where I can balance detail and blur. I just gave up and left it at 50.

For both horizontal and vertical it seems like the amount of detail lost under 40 is too large, but anything above it begins to over-sharpen images with very fine detail. Is there any opinions on how to set sharpness for this set? Most settings posted in this thread and the LE5300 thread seem to be between 15 and 65, both of which appear to me as extremes of blur and overly sharpened images and text.
post #736 of 1508
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Originally Posted by erock813 View Post

As far as the TruMotion 120 hz goes, has anyone else noticed that when it's on, it creates an artifact around a moving object with a still background? Everything else in the picture runs smooth, but moving objects have a distortion around them. Just something I noticed, don't know if it's normal....

Yep... After having this panel for approx 4 weeks, I have found that I enjoy all viewing with TM off. Some like it, However, I find it just weird and hard to adjust to.
post #737 of 1508
So I just picked up my set from BB, and I got the IPS set!! I have read numerous posts about having different settings depending on what is hooked up to the set. Should I run HDMI to my receiver, and then use 1 cable to the TV, or run all the HDMI to the set, and optical audio from the devices to the receiver. (I have a Xbox 360, blu-ray, uverse cable, and a Wii w/component cables) Any input would be nice. Thanks for the help.
post #738 of 1508
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Originally Posted by tossup View Post

I'm toying with this screen using my PC over hdmi in ISF Expert 1 and I'm having trouble getting fonts to stay crisp without over-sharpening.

You should name the input your PC is connected to PC to turn on chroma 4:4:4.
post #739 of 1508
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Originally Posted by Codename_Falcon View Post

You should name the input your PC is connected to PC to turn on chroma 4:4:4.

Thanks! That made a noticeable difference in the picture quality as well.
post #740 of 1508
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Originally Posted by dcjes View Post

So I just picked up my set from BB, and I got the IPS set!! I have read numerous posts about having different settings depending on what is hooked up to the set. Should I run HDMI to my receiver, and then use 1 cable to the TV, or run all the HDMI to the set, and optical audio from the devices to the receiver. (I have a Xbox 360, blu-ray, uverse cable, and a Wii w/component cables) Any input would be nice. Thanks for the help.

Definitely send everything to your receiver and 1 cable to your TV.

The TV is going to downmix everything to 2-channel when you send out of optical audio.
post #741 of 1508
I am looking at either the 47" or 55". Can you customize each input to their own settings or can you only customize the Picture Mode?

Thanks!
post #742 of 1508
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Originally Posted by tossup View Post
I'm toying with this screen using my PC over hdmi in ISF Expert 1 and I'm having trouble getting fonts to stay crisp without over-sharpening.

Horizontal sharpness has a noticeable jump in detail between 43 and 44, where it appears that text loses about a pixel's width of blur and becomes sharp. It also appears that test patterns have the least amount of halo effects for the amount of detail.

After going through vertical sharpness dozens of times I can't really hone in on any particular area where I can balance detail and blur. I just gave up and left it at 50.

For both horizontal and vertical it seems like the amount of detail lost under 40 is too large, but anything above it begins to over-sharpen images with very fine detail. Is there any opinions on how to set sharpness for this set? Most settings posted in this thread and the LE5300 thread seem to be between 15 and 65, both of which appear to me as extremes of blur and overly sharpened images and text.
Sharpness set at 50 was the trick to get my Mac Mini dialed in with the TV. 50 seems to be the "0". Anything below is -, anything higher is +.
post #743 of 1508
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Originally Posted by Unoriginal Name
I am looking at either the 47" or 55". Can you customize each input to their own settings or can you only customize the Picture Mode?

Thanks!
I know on the 47 inch, which I have, the picture settings, tint, contrast, brigh etc can be set per input.
post #744 of 1508
Does anyone know if the 5500 model are all IPS panels or is it the same deal as the 5400 (IPS and VA panels).
post #745 of 1508
Can someone please tell me, can I use any wireless adapter or do I have to use the an-wf100 from LG?


I am sure this has been answered somewhere in this thread but I haven't found it.

Thanks
post #746 of 1508
Your choices for wireless are either the LG adapter or any wireless ethernet bridge.
post #747 of 1508
hey i've been browsing and decided to finally join the forums

I just bought an 42LE5400 from Tigerdirect and have been reading about the IPS panels, just wondering if the panels matter that much, since i just ordered it 2 days ago, is this a new panel on their new TVs or what, just worried because it's being delivered the 4th and wondering what i should expect
post #748 of 1508
I was tempted to get the 42 5400 off amazon on christmas when it was $799 but decided to wait for 2011 models.. I am really hoping for a glossy model with full LED and local dimming which performs well in games..
post #749 of 1508
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Originally Posted by avsforumnewbie View Post

Sharpness set at 50 was the trick to get my Mac Mini dialed in with the TV. 50 seems to be the "0". Anything below is -, anything higher is +.

Yep, it seems that having the PC input's secret 4:4:4 chroma turned on made setting sharpness easy, 50/50 is clearly the default for a reason. I'm not really sure what 4:4:4 does to the rest of the picture but it made text much smoother, so I'm all for it.

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hey i've been browsing and decided to finally join the forums

I just bought an 42LE5400 from Tigerdirect and have been reading about the IPS panels, just wondering if the panels matter that much, since i just ordered it 2 days ago, is this a new panel on their new TVs or what, just worried because it's being delivered the 4th and wondering what i should expect

When you get your TV check the product code for a 'W'. You can find this near the barcodes that will look similar to this: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...7&postcount=70
Notice the "USDLH" in the code near the bottom refers to the TV having a VA panel. You want a 'W' in that code to ensure it is an IPS panel.
post #750 of 1508
does it make that big of a difference? (what is the difference too?) or do some VA models just have more problems than the IPS?
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