Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn
Still my point that your saying studios are moving away from this DNR destruction and are recalling the bad work simply isn't true.
How is it not true? Do you have proof that it's happening more? I certainly have proof that it's not happening as often and that bad work is being recalled at least part of the time. You've offered nothing but subjective biases in the matter so far.
Even if it's random and only x number of titles there just isn't anyway you can say that this isn't going to just continue.
Which is an absolutely false claim of what I said. Do you think that people can't read what I wrote or something? I said things were getting better and that DNR/EE was becoming the exception rather than the rule, not that it wasn't going to continue.
If you're going to misrepresent me, at least try to be factual instead of making up things out of whole cloth.
I have some nice looking titles on my shelves as well (assume you actually seen the ritles you listed) but that doesn't ressurect the ones that have been sullied
Nor was I saying it would. All I'm saying is that the likelihood
of it happening on future titles is diminishing.
You have a nice list but high profile, high quality titles like Dr Zhivago,Apollo 13,Spartacus and Lord of The Rings still points toward a blatant disregard for this issue.
Disregard? Possibly. Blatant? No. That would indicate malicious intent, and I just don't see it. And I wasn't aware there are any significant problems with Dr. Zhivago
. Of course, that still doesn't change the fact that at best
you can't come up with more than a handful of titles out of dozens as somehow proof of an increase in PQ issues.
And really, the quality people get from movies (assuming you mean like or dislike of the film itself), is entirely subjective. It's not up to you to make that determination as a blanket statement for everyone. There's a lot of titles on that list that are quite popular amongst AVS folks that you seem to turn up your nose at. Blue Underground, for instance, has been churning out fantastic work on their cult horror Blu-rays. Most of the major studios, particularly Sony and Fox, have really stepped up their game to near-constant good work on catalogs. Even Paramount and Universal are generating some good Blu-rays of lesser-known but well-loved titles.
Have the studios recalled these titles recently ,if so I missed it ? You know as well as I do that it is essentially a slam dunk that this is the end of the line for these great films.
We've seen several recalls. For instance: The Fifth Element
, Gangs of New York
, and even Gladiator
is more or less unofficially confirmed to be getting a new master/transfer. It's not a lot, but it's at least a direct refutation of "blatant disregard." And no, I don't subscribe to your belief that this is the "end of the line" as you claim. At least in some places, we're getting confirmation that a lot of time and money is going into restoration on catalog films. I'm not one of the zealots here that insist that the studios somehow magically create unlimited time and money to do this for anything more than a handful of films, but it's a start.
Someone is terribly misguided,period.
I have proof of my claims, not continued blustering about others being misguided and attempting to impose my film likes and dislikes on others. If you want to believe that everything is getting worse, fine. But if you're going to whine about it on a public forum then complain when the evidence proves you wrong, claim that others say things they never said, and launch into hyperbole about dem' mean ol' studios, then it's clear I'm not the one trying to guide people away from reality.