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post #1561 of 4873
11/30/10 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes, the AVR will correctly downmix the audio source to the available speakers. Also, keep in mind that although the USB port is more convenient, you also can connect the iPod via a 3.5mm to RCA cable as well.

Great news, you saved me some time looking through the manual. I may eventually run wire and wall mount the rears, but I'll be starting with 3.1 The rear speaker stands are just an accident waiting to happen. I had to take down the speakers every time someone brings their crumbsnatcher to the house. They just got in the way as well, and now they're gone.
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post #1562 of 4873
11/30/10 at 8:29pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

just FYI, in case you didn't check it out closely the 791 specifically seems to have been totally mucked up... more than just the standard one or two minor errors. In this case he is correct to say "they are WAY off".

they must have accidentally used the specs for a higher-end model (I think the 5308?) because they claim things like 0.005THD, three DSP chips, Burr-brown DAC's, ADC's on the EXT IN inputs, TWO toroidal power transformers and THX Ultra2 ()!!

pretty impressive for a 22lb, $499 receiver

For someone that doesn't know alot about these receivers (including me), those side by side comparisons are a critical tool. I did my research, and figured out that the 791 specs were off, and ended up settling on the 1911, mainly because I had already gone to the trouble to box up my old one, return it, go to BB, etc...(I had to come home with somethign new after all that!)

But in hindsight, I kind of wish I had just kept my 1611 and invested that $200 elsewhere (like a good surge conditioner) in my system. Nonetheless, I was really bummed to find out I couldn't get those specs.
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post #1563 of 4873
11/30/10 at 9:25pm
so does batpig's first post in this thread no longer apply?...concerning the 1911 vs the 791 he says that there is "ZERO difference in terms of power, specs, sound quality, build quality, etc. between the two lines"...only differences being the HD radio, Zone 2 pre-outs and room-to-room remote control jack

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post #1564 of 4873
11/30/10 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

so does batpig's first post in this thread no longer apply?...concerning the 1911 vs the 791 he says that there is "ZERO difference in terms of power, specs, sound quality, build quality, etc. between the two lines"...only differences being the HD radio, Zone 2 pre-outs and room-to-room remote control jack


No, batpig's post is correct. It's the Denon site which is wrong.
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post #1565 of 4873
11/30/10 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

so does batpig's first post in this thread no longer apply?.

have you not been reading the discussion??

especially the parts where the Denon site is all screwed up, and how SoundofMind said to trust me over the Denon website?
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post #1566 of 4873
11/30/10 at 9:59pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

have you not been reading the discussion??

especially the parts where the Denon site is all screwed up, and how SoundofMind said to trust me over the Denon website?

my bad...havn't had the time to read all 1500+ posts

just skimmed through and saw that THX etc did not apply to the 791 and assumed that the 1911 had these features...you, jdsmoothie, SoundofMind and a few others do an excellent job and are like unofficial Denon reps here
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post #1567 of 4873
12/1/10 at 3:39pm
since I can't trust the Denon website specs, which 3D Denon receivers actually have the THX certification?...which offers the best price/performance?
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post #1568 of 4873
12/1/10 at 3:41pm
there are no THX certified Denon AVR's currently

if you are wowed by that label, look at Onkyo
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post #1569 of 4873
12/1/10 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by furby076 View Post

So I am trying to figure out which one to buy. Initially I was going to go with the 2311, but if the 891 is virtually the same.

I am not an expert in audio...I have a 5.1 speaker setup and just gonig to upgrade my receiver at this point. If I have the HD radio does that require a subscription (ala XM) so if I didn't want a subscription this feature does me no good?

I don't know what 2, 3, and 5 are (4 seems obvious, and I don't need that).

Suggestions?

Also what do you think the price difference will be? If the price difference is only $100 I would go for the 2311...if it's 300-400 I would go for the 891 (pending someone convincing me that I really should go for the 2311 for some reason).

Thanks

The most easily explained one is (5). The 12v trigger lets you link up your AVR to integrate a front projector so that everything operates smoothly.
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post #1570 of 4873
12/2/10 at 4:36am
Moved
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post #1571 of 4873
12/2/10 at 11:49am
I just got a 1911 and was wondering if it makes sense to try and use my classsic Marantz 10B tuner with it? Any comments would be most appreciated.


UDT 12
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post #1572 of 4873
12/2/10 at 12:38pm
Doesn't hurt to connect it and see which works better for you .. the Marantz or the internal HD tuner.
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post #1573 of 4873
12/2/10 at 12:50pm
Thanks, I'll let you know which sounds better, tubes or digital.
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post #1574 of 4873
12/2/10 at 1:18pm
^^^ I'll bet on tubes, but you never know...
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post #1575 of 4873
12/2/10 at 1:56pm
Just got a denon 1911 (decided over the onkyo 608 - denon was £100 cheaper) and having to crank the volume up to -10 to get a good sound (not mega loud or anything). All dynamic settings are off. Is this normal? (past experience is an okyo 505 and only ever cranked up to 60%)?

Speakers Ae209 fronts, Aego T surrounds and backs and a tannoy powered subl.

Advice greatly received.

Rich
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post #1576 of 4873
12/2/10 at 2:32pm
My 10 yr old 3300 is slowly losing it's battle with time. After about 60 minutes of low use, it's starting to put out static. RIP.

Anyway, trying to decide between the 2311 and 1911. Right now I can get the 2311 for about $150 more.

My old 3300 was rated at 105w for 8 ohms and 140 for 6. The 2311 is closest in power but as I just sunk a bunch of money into a theater room, I am trying to replace at the lowest cost possible.

The 3300 is used for day to day watching. I usually listen to it at about -10 db.

My question is will the 15w lost by using the 1911 even be noticeable? I don't need any of the other upgrades of the 2311.

Any opinions would be appreciated.
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post #1577 of 4873
12/2/10 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by winste View Post

My question is will the 15w lost by using the 1911 even be noticeable? I don't need any of the other upgrades of the 2311.

Doubtful. You have to double the wattage to get a 3db increase in SPL.

In my case, Audyssey applied the exact same channel trim corrections to a Denon rated at 105W x 2 channels driven and another rated at 125W x2 channels driven. (2310 and 3311).
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post #1578 of 4873
12/2/10 at 4:31pm
Assuming you're not using any HDMI inputs or outputs, can the AVR-2311CI upconvert from component and svideo inputs to the component monitor output? For example, will it convert 480i,480p,720p, and 1080i to component 1080p or 720p?
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post #1579 of 4873
12/2/10 at 4:41pm
it can CONVERT (change format) but it cannot SCALE between analog input/output. So if you wire everything up with analog cables (composite, s-video, or component) you can output to the monitor via one component video cable. However, the resolution will not change; the signals will simply be converted from one format to the other.
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post #1580 of 4873
12/3/10 at 7:22am
Hi All,

I have a 591, but I'm thinking to upgrade to 2311 for several reasons: video conversion and upscaling and the RS-232 port. I know that the video qualities shouldn't be a deciding factor, but is the 2311 able to upscale a PAL (HDMI or component from a PAL DVD) to 60 Hz HDMI (or component), so I'll be able to watch it on my NTSC-only TV? If it is it will save me the neet to keep a PC only for this purpose in the living room plus a whole bunch of cables, etc.

Thanks!
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post #1581 of 4873
12/3/10 at 8:41am
I started to hook up up my new 1911 last night and when I took a close look at my heavy RBH center channel, I noticed it was 4 ohms. Should I expect any problems with this?

Thanks
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post #1582 of 4873
12/3/10 at 8:49am
try it and see! most likely you will be fine, especially if it's the only speaker that is low impedance.
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post #1583 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:10am
Ok, so my new Denon 1911 should be waiting for me when I get home for work today... but I'm second guessing my purchase. Should I have gone with a THX certified unit?? I watch a ton of movies and blu-ray as well as listening to tons of music.

Make me feel better about my purchase!
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post #1584 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:10am
I will for sure. That center has two pairs of binding posts, does it matter which pair I use?
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post #1585 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by Olbi View Post

I know that the video qualities shouldn't be a deciding factor, but is the 2311 able to upscale a PAL (HDMI or component from a PAL DVD) to 60 Hz HDMI (or component), so I'll be able to watch it on my NTSC-only TV?

I believe it can; the ABT chip can do framerate conversions and PAL is listed as a supported format for video conversion function.
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post #1586 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:14am
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Originally Posted by udt12 View Post

I will for sure. That center has two pairs of binding posts, does it matter which pair I use?

no, if the "jumpers" are in place (the little metal bridge that connects the hi/low binding posts) the the binding posts are essentially one, so it doesn't matter whether you use the top or bottom pair to connect.

check your speaker manual for more info.
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post #1587 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by tgraham81 View Post

Make me feel better about my purchase!

If you want to switch to the similarly priced Onkyo 608 you can get "THX" and feel better, but it probably won't sound any better. Just because a receiver is not THX-certified doesn't mean it can't produce excellent, reference quality home audio. There is a lot more that goes into the system to create the whole from all those parts....

What speakers are you using? And how big is your room?
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post #1588 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by tgraham81 View Post

Ok, so my new Denon 1911 should be waiting for me when I get home for work today... but I'm second guessing my purchase. Should I have gone with a THX certified unit?? I watch a ton of movies and blu-ray as well as listening to tons of music.

Make me feel better about my purchase!

No worries mate ... those RC-70's are 8 ohm @ 95db efficiency. THX certification makes more of a difference when running 4 ohm speakers.
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post #1589 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:21am
Well, I took advantage of the great woot deals on the Energys so I now am the proud owner of 2 Rc-70s, Rc-lcr, and im using an old polk 5.1 set for sub and satellites until I can afford a bit better on those things. Sub probably being the first to be upgraded. So I'm sure it will sound great. Just a bit of second guessing on my part.

How much better is THX certification on a reciever, not sure I even fully understand what that means LOL. This will be my first "real" home theater set up.
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post #1590 of 4873
12/3/10 at 9:27am
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How much better is THX certification on a reciever

it's not, don't worry about it
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