*Official* Denon AVR-1911/791 & AVR-2311CI/891 Owner's Thread - Page 54

lol thanks Batpig. Also thanks for the great write ups on your batpigworld.com site, really helped me decied on which reciever to get. Now on to tackling the Adyussy set up when I get home.

looks like you've got a "u" on the loose.... back in place! first step in tackling it is to spell it right: Audyssey

Ha ha already screwed it up! Someone should write up a spell check guide. ;-)

Thanks batpig! I think I'll give it a try (time to convince my wife...)

I need some help here as I am very new to the home theatre stuff. I have a Samsung 46" LCD, LG Blue Ray player, HD Cable PVR and an Xbox. I am looking to buy a reciever and speakers.

I was planning on getting the AVR-591 but then started reading about OSD GUI and volume overlay..etc. So now I have second thoughts abour the 591 and am thinking about moving up to the higher models.

I will be using my system for general use like movies, games and music (would also like USB connectivity for MP3 although my Blue Ray player has a USB connection). My budget is around $1500 including speakers.

I would appreciate some suggestions.

big question: do you care about 3D support? if not, you can get one of last year's models (xx10) for a nice saving. Check out local best buy's and online for deals on AVR 2310, 890, or even 990/3310 etc.

AVR 2310 is under $500 on Amazon right now. Or refurb for $349 at ecost.

that will get GUI and volume overlay, which you seem to want.

if you buy an older model make sure that you will not care about 3D not only now but in the future as well...otherwise it's best to get 3D now even if you don't plan on using it right away...that's what I did when I bought the 791...don't have a 3D TV yet but might buy one in 2011 or 2012...it's good to not have to worry about buying a new receiver at that point

I'm leaning towards the 791 only becuase my local Futureshop (I'm in canada) has it on for $450 (regular 599) and it has USB connectivity. One thing thought, should I be concerned with it having only 4 HDMI inputs ? Also, how 'ugly' is the analog GUI ?....


thanks again

Its pretty ugly. Think atari block graphics.

I just got a 1911 and don't have to use the gui much after initial set up. Once you have the settings down you shouldn't have to use it much.

I am a gadget geek and decided I wasn't going to let something I would use maybe 2% of the time impact my decision.

If there's no preference for 3D now, that's not likely going to change in the next 3-4 years ... plenty of time for HDMI to get replaced, requiring another set of new AVRs.

I agree...I mostly went into the GUI during initial setup and when running Audyssey...after that I barely go in there so it doesn't matter to me at all...it's certainly not worth spending a few hundred dollars more for a prettier GUI in my opinion

the volume overlay on screen would have been nice but since my receiver is within eye shot I've gotten used to looking at the receiver's dB GUI...again not worth the extra $$

doesn't necessarily mean that you have to get a new receiver...you can still use the old receiver (like the 791) and just not get the updated features with the new HDMI specs

why can't someone's opinion of 3D change in 3-4 years?...more 3D content will probably be available, more 3D cable channels, cheaper 3D Blu-rays, cheaper 3D TV's, possibly glassless 3D etc

I meant replaced all together .. another set of connections (eg. HDBaseT). My point was there's no reason to buy an HDMI 1.4 AVR if there's no desire for 3D anytime soon as things change every few years anyway.

I would like to know if $551 is a good price for a new denon avr-2311ci and $846 for a 3311ci?

I decided on the 791 so now I need speaker recommendations.

I dont want huge towers in my family room but I can live with small towers (say 2 or 3 feet but only if thye are skinny). Or I will go with something like Energy Take II classic which are really low profile- I havent heard them thought.

thoughts?

my room is about 15 feet by 15 feet. and open concept

As winste said it is pretty ugly, but in general you wouldn't care (I just returned my 591 and got 2311, so I used both within 1 hour). IMHO, the only thing that is better for everyday use with the 2311's GUI is that the volume is overlayed, but this, although nice, is definitely something that shouldn't be a deciding factor. If the features of 791 are good enough for you - go for it. As for the number of the HDMI inputs - count the devices you have and think how many more you'll get in near future.

Although the FS's price for 791 is good (I'm also in Canada), I'm sure that if you call the Denon's authorized dealers you'll get a price for 1911 which could be the same or better than the FS's price for 791.

The additional benefit the 2311 offers is the ability to install any firmware updates on your own (although moot if there is an authorized repair facility nearby that can install firmware updates). AFAIK though, to date there are none.

great information.

I'm going to test drive both the 791 and 2311/891 but need some speaker recommendations so I will head over to the Speakers forum

That's one of the reasons I decided in to go with the 2311 instead of the 891. The other was that I managed to find the 2311 cheaper that the 891 .

Can't speak for Canada shops, but in the states, one can generally always find the 2311 for less than the 891 as the on-line authorized resellers generally only sell the 4 digit models while the 3 digit models are found in B&M stores like Best Buy which generally only sell at MSRP.

i now have a pioneer VSX-1018 and I'm looking to get a new receiver. Currenta HDMI port it loose and the cable is no longer tight and it does not work. Also the annoying situation where I have to continously turn the setting baCK TO hdmi 1 each time I turn on the receiver. It comes up with last setting used, switches to tv/sat which I have to turn back to hdmi 1.

Now the real question. I would like at least 4 hdmi min. Not sure if I'd use hdmi 1.4 yet since nothin I have is hdmi 1.4. Two I am looking at are the Denon AVR-2310 and 2311. I like both of these since both havew external-in connections for a amp. Which I have a marantz mm-9000 amp.

First ... turn off HDMI-CEC on your TV and that will solve the issue of the AVR reverting back to the TV HDMI input. Second, unless you're outside the US, neither the 2310 or 2311 have pre-outs for an amp. Regardless, if you have no need for 3D TV then you should get a better deal on last year's models.

hmm, I wonder how much I could sell the Marantz for? Are these receivers becoming better there just isn't a need for a separate amp?

Whether you can benefit from an external amp still depends on the size of your room, the size of your speakers, how loud you play your speakers, the speaker efficiency ratings, and whether you prefer 4 ohm speakers. For most folks using 8 ohm speakers with 87+db efficiency in an average sized family room, there really is no need for an external amp.

I just purchased a 791 because of its unique ability to set the HDMI stand-by...I had a 1909 that didnt do it...Anyway, I cannot get surround sound from the rear mounted speakers....Am I reading correctly that you cannot have front height speakers and rear speakers simultaneously..??

if by "rear" you mean "surround back" then, yes.

there are 7 amps.... you start off with 5 channels for basic surround sound (front, center, left, surr. left, surr. right) so that leaves 2 more! those final 2 channels can be assigned to either surr.back (rear), front height, zone 2, "B" fronts, etc.

Okay so I love my new denon 1911 (moved up from onkyo 505) - sounds great but for one issue - vocals very weak.

Okay so set-up - Acoustic energy 209 fronts(listen to lots of cds) and acoustic energy aego T for the rest (5 speakers) - 7.1 set-up. I only have a small lounge.

How do I get the centre louder using audyssey. The vocals sound weak - having to turn it up to -10db to get reasonable vocals. Everything else is great.

Do I need to go into manual set-up or something and change the distance - but will this turn off the audyessey?? If I keep turning the volume up then the surround becomes unbearable.

Would value some expert help please.

Thanks in advance

Rich

You can manually increase the volume of any channel by pressing the CH Level button on the remote without impacting Audyssey. You can also use the Dyn EQ Reference level offset setting to 10 or 15 for better vocals.

Thank you very much - greatly appreciated
Rich

Guy's will the 791 pass DirecTv & PS3 3D picture.....I have had to rearrange my setup because my Onkyo 606 will not pass 3d......but if the 791 will pass 3d then i'm getting it tomorrow!