*Official* Denon AVR-1911/791 & AVR-2311CI/891 Owner's Thread - Page 78

The MultEQ readings are correct because it's not EZsetEQ. Also keep in mind that going from 120 - 150 - 200 are only 2 setting differences. Also there is no gap as there is no crossover for the sub, the LFP for LFE relates to the LFE (0.1) channel only.


Set the PS3 to pass 720p or 1080i.

How does it sound?

Audyssey has measured the -3dB point of the speakers where they are placed and the AVR picks the next xover above that. You can try moving the speakers to get more bass reinforcement from a corner or wall.

Your sub may or may not produce 150-200 better than those satellites. If it does the 200 will sound better than a lower xover. Audyssey does not apply filters below the xover chosen, so that's the trade-off. Just listen to bass-laden material and pick what sounds best to you.

Thanks guys. I ran MultEQ again today as the kids were out and I was able to run it in complete silence . I read the guide about recommended positions and turning the phase to 0 on the sub. This time I did not get a phase error for my front L which I had to skip last time as the wiring was correct..also this time Audyssey set the crossover for the fronts to 250hz and the Center/surrounds to 200hz.

The sound is good. I'm very pleased with the level of detail especially in the surrounds. The bass was a little low for my liking so I increased the channel level for the sub from -6.5 to -3.5.

I have a 2301, every now and then the gui overlay won't show up on the screen. Well, I'm sure it displays but for some reason must be behind whats currently being displayed (if that makes any sense). The only way I can get the overlay back on the screen is to toggle power on the receiver.

Is there any cause of this or easier way to get the overlay back on the screen without powering off the receiver?

Thanks

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Confirm that the Video Convert setting is set to "ON" otherwise the GUI won't show up.

I ordered an AVR-1911 from 6ave.com (authorized DENON etailer) and used a coupon code I found on the internet. It dropped the price from $598 to $408. This is not an open box item. This is a new one with a full 2 year warranty. I thought it was too good to be true but called this morning and they confirmed the order. The coupon code is AFLDEN408. I almost ordered about 10 of em to resell for 500 but realized the warranty probably wouldn't transfer. Hope this helps someone. Ill post it in the DEALs thread as well.

Yes, is set to "ON" for all inputs. It will be fine at the start, but for some reason after time it won't display anymore. I have a harmony remote, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Not a huge deal, just annoying at times.

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Although you would lose your settings, you might want to reset the microproccessor (p. 84) to see if that resolves the issue.

Several Denon authorized resellers including 6Ave, have been selling at near this price ever since the 1911 was first released last June.

got a 2311 a few months back and worked fine with 5 inputs (3 thru HDMI and 2 thru RCA) with output to Sharp Aquos 52" display (bought 2 years earlier.

i changed my display to INfocus projector with the same connections of all 5 inputs in the same position but got only one BD player (LG350) out thru the projector. all other 4 did not show on the screen.

i switched back to my Sharp aquos and everything was all right. back to infocus and it worked only with LG350 and not the others.

the cable length to infocus is 10 metres while the cable to aquos was only 2. can this be the issue? but then why LG350 is the only one working?

i have tried switching all the cable connections and starting/restarting sequences (input->AVR->projector, input->projector->AVR, etc)

the guy setting up the projector has no clue what to do

any other suggestions?
many thanks in advance.

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First, the recommended startup priority would be PJ, AVR, and then the source. Try changing the setting from AUTO to 1080p or 1080p/24. If possible try connecting the PJ with the same 2 meter cable as was used for the Aquos. You may either need a better quality 10 meter cable or a powered HDMI extender.

Does anyone (batpig ) have any insight on how to get the denon to "shuffle" music on an ipod? Connected the ipod via usb, but once you disconnect you gotta go through all the music in order (unless I'm missing something). With several thousand songs, that's rather dull to listen to the same songs over and over every time we disconnect the ipod.

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Have you set the setting (p. 46) to ON for an USB connection?

I've been experiencing lip synching problems from my BD player and STB so have been using the manual audio delay settings on my Denon AVR 791 receiver. I thought HDMI took care of this, but when I set the audio delay to auto the video lag is noticable. I read batpigs comment from a previous post about turning off video processing on the TV, but the timing is still off. Does anyone know if the auto audio delay is 'smart', or does it simply impose a fixed delay?

I guess I just need to deal with it and try my best with setting the manual delay, or I could run an Optical out from the TV into the receiver but then this defeats the simplicity of HDMI.

Also was having a strange problem with my Harmony One remote operating the receiver. Each time I would press one of the direction keys, it was acting as if I pressed the button twice. I tried to teach the remote using the RAW feature, and this worked but but there was a huge delay so I contacted Logitech for help. Their first attempt to reprogram the remote left most functions not working so they're going to try another fix. Anyone have this issue?

Thanks
Steve

HDMI auto lip sync is definitely not as "smart" as you would think there are so many things that could introduce delay in the system that it can be difficult to troubleshoot. Auto Lipsync will sync up two HDMI devices which support this function but if something else (e.g. extra video processing in the TV) is the root cause it may not solve the problem. Personally I would turn it off and attack video settings in the receiver (e.g. trying "game" for video mode, turning off the i/p scaler) or the TV to see if you can drill down on where the problem is originating.


well, assuming you can get your Harmony back to where it was, there is actually a very simple fix for this (I'm shocked that Harmony support didn't do this!). For the device you are having problems with, go to Troubleshooting and then select "My device responds too quickly / not enough to some commands" and then lower the "Repeats".

thanks, batpig!

Hey all...quick question... With the 891 when you go into parameter check/EQ check should there be a graph for the sub?

^Nope.

I have bought Energy RC50 pair of speakers. Can i hook it with Denon AVR-1911? Have anybody used this combo?

How would 1911 be compared to Marantz SR5005? As per specs, they both look very similar.

Your suggestions would be highly appreciated.

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Those are 94db @ 8 Ω speakers so will work just fine.

^^^^ the Marantz 5005 is kind of "in between" the 1911 and 2311. Only 4 HDMI inputs like the 1911... but more overall connectivity (e.g. 2 opticals and 2 coax, RS-232 port, etc) like the 2311. And in between in power specs too (100W for the Marantz vs. 90/105 for the 1911/2311 respectively).

FYI - the current Marantz lineup is based on Denons, so the 5005 is almost certainly built on the same "platform" as the 1911/2311. It's probably just a slightly "souped up" 1911 trimmed with Marantz facade and maybe some different parts, plus more legacy (non HDMI) connectivity options.

I have tried the receiver with different speakers, and the 1911 seems to do well with more challenging speakers -- e.g. minimum impedance <=5 ohms and sensitivities >= 84db.

You have to consider the impedance at various frequencies, not just nominal. I believe the RC50's have a minimum of 4 ohms -- so it could be more challenging for the receiver to drive them well.

I have discovered some distortion listening to 2-channel audio sourced through the PS3 at higher volumes, and it may be due to my current speakers being a bit of a task to drive -- lower sensitivity and impedance dipping into the 3's. I'm hoping it's the PS3.

Would in that case Marantz SR5005 work better than 1911 with additional 10Watts of power?

Even if the 10 watt difference was true (keep in mind these are "marketing" numbers), you wouldn't notice the difference. Select the AVR that meets your input and feature requirements rather than worrying about the power specs.

you recommend to fix the resolution and also change the cable and i did both and now change the cable but still only one source is shown.

i connect the HDMI directly from each of the other 2 sources directly (using the old cable) to the PJ and it did show the picture. the sound went thru denon using digital inputs from the sources.

here are my 3 HDMI sources
LG BD 350
SS BD 550
computer with ATI graphic card, no sound card

i have also tried reset the denon but still got the same result, i.e. only LG BD was shown via denon HDMI output.

any other suggestions?
many thanks once again

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The fact that the sources work with the 10 meter cable connected directly to the PJ, simply means there is no issue with the source transmission. However, the issue is when you connect through an HDMI repeater (ie. AVR) the signal can weaken over lengths > 25' which may require a powered HDMI extender between the AVR and the PJ. Try setting the resolution to 720p and see if that works for you. Were you able to test with the shorter 2m cable from the AVR to the PJ?

My brother just bought a Denon 891, and I'm helping him set it up, as I have a Denon 789, and I thought with my experience it would be a snap.

And it pretty much was, except for one thing. The HDMI control feature.

We have his ATT Uverse box going in through HDMI 1, and we want to set it where the receiver will pass through ATT Uverse to the TV, even when the receiver is off(or in standby)

Well, we have the receiver on HDMI 1, and everything is fine, but when I turn HDMI control to "On" the screen goes black. To get the TV signal back on, I have to turn HDMI control back to "off", then the picture comes back on the TV.

Anyone have any insights into what we're doing wrong? I think we have to turn something on in the ATT Uverse box, or something on in his Samsung HDTV, but I'm not sure.


The 2nd problem we are having is when we hook up an IPOD to the USB on the front of the Denon, the sound doesn't sound very good. Not nearly as good as his old Harman Kardon receiver sounded when he used the IPOD Dock he had with it.

yes. i did try with the cable of 2.5 metre length with the 2 BD players. the LG worked fine but the SS BD still have problems. it showed only when the set was switched on. once i switched to the LG (connected thru BD channel on the denon) then switch back to SS (connected thru DVR channel on the denon) it did not show on the PJ.

i connected my 2 sources with RCA outputs and use component (10 metre length) out (without plugging in the HDMI out cable) and both sources could be shown via the PJ.

i have not tried the 720p output via HDMI yet. will try tomorrow.

forgot to mention that my brother owns denon 2310 and he connected his 3 HD sources to the denon and an output HDMI cable of 12 metre to the PJ with no problem with all 3 sources.

is it possible that denon 2311 3D feature is the issue here, making had shake with certain sources and PJ unstable?

Damn, and I try to research before asking, I read that manual, but obviously not correctly. :P

Thanks for the info!