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post #2791 of 5035
Hi! I have Energy RC speakers. Recently I've used an inexpensive Onkyo pack-in HTIB receiver (I'm using it right now), as well as a Marantz 7002 (that monkey's gone to Heaven) to drive my 7.1 system.

The Marantz shimmered in the mid-range and top end, but it may be an illusion caused by the unit's refusal to tell my speakers to hit low frequencies. If it didn't come from my subwoofer, then it wasn't bass; simple as that. It sure had nice clarity, though.

It's not even fair to compare the 7002 to my ultra-budget Onkyo, but honestly, while it seems (I guess?) to have less upper-register clarity, the Onkyo really pumps the bass. Now that the deluxe-o-box has died, and I'm coming back to where I'm from, I have to say that I simply enjoy my Onkyo's crossover more. My towers sound like towers, not fancy bookshelves.

I've seen more than one person recommend Denon AVRs for Energy speakers, and I'm kind-of-stunned at my own experience with different brands. I need a new receiver (I have two systems and only one amp right now), and the 891 looks like it's at the right price point for me. How would you guys explain why Denon matches well with Energy? And how would you describe Denon's characteristic sound?
post #2792 of 5035
^Hi, welcome. Yes any of these Denon AVRs in your price range should work very well with those speakers. However, the Marantz should have been able to provide balanced sound with good bass, if set up and functioning properly. To get the Denon properly set up, you'll run autosetup following the Audyssey setup guide and do the setup portion following the batpig guide and post any questions or problems here.
post #2793 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

^Hi, welcome. Yes any of these Denon AVRs in your price range should work very well with those speakers. However, the Marantz should have been able to provide balanced sound with good bass, if set up and functioning properly. To get the Denon properly set up, you'll run autosetup following the Audyssey setup guide and do the setup portion following the batpig guide and post any questions or problems here.

Thanks for the links I'll be making my move sometime in the next two weeks, hopefully, and I'll post my results. Have a super day!
post #2794 of 5035
Would anyone consider purchasing a 3311ci used from six avenue electronics? The price is reasonable at $776 and they are an authorize denon dealer.

Please advise
post #2795 of 5035
No reason to buy used .. you should be able to buy one brand new from them for only a few $$ more, although as a reseller they are the most recommended reseller in these Denon threads.

Please note however, that you are not posting in the correct thread ... rather you should be in the Denon 3311 Owner's thread.
post #2796 of 5035
Agreed...wait a bit till after the 2012 models are released in a few weeks and the 2011 (new) prices should fall accordingly.
post #2797 of 5035
Hello! I am a noob to all this ! but so far its cool!
I got the denon 1911, front speakers are monitor 70's, center is cs2 and rears are monitor 50's and the sub is the bic 12 which is arriving in a week or so..

during some setup yesterday I noticed that when I press certain buttons for different sound settings my mitsubishi 73838 would flick off and then flick back on..is this a hdmi issue? or what? This only happens when I change to a different setting..

Also, my speakers on my mitsubishi are not working now while my surround is..what if I dont want my surround on and only want my tv speakers?
post #2798 of 5035
^^
Components connected to the AVR can act differently from time to time. Turn off the HDMI-CEC feature on the TV (NetCommand) and see if that helps.

To pass audio to the TV speakers only you have at least (3) options:

(1) With the AVR ON set HDMI Audio Out (p. 57) to "TV"
(2) With the AVR in Standby, set HDMI Control (p. 57) to ON and set the Standby Source (p. 57) setting to the HDMI jack # the cable/sat box is plugged in to
(3) Plug the HDMI cable from the sat/box directly to the TV and plug an optical from the sat/cable box to the AVR
post #2799 of 5035
I have a 891 with the speaker layout in the attached photos


Question: Would it be better to run IIx or EX for movies?

many thanks.
LL
post #2800 of 5035
IIx sounds great, EX does also. But what movies? standard DVD? Use whichever sounds best to you. If blu-ray use the new codecs.
post #2801 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by sforza View Post

I have a 891 with the speaker layout in the attached photos


Question: Would it be better to run IIx or EX for movies?

many thanks.

Ouch! Certainly not ideal speaker placement. Any chance you can angle the couch to be parallel with the fireplace as those rear surrounds likely aren't do much in their current locations. You might want to consider front height speakers instead of the rear surrounds.

IIx is your best setting as EX only plays when the movie is encoded with EX while IIx takes any audio and simulates it up to 7.1.
post #2802 of 5035
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Ouch! Certainly not ideal speaker placement. Any chance you can angle the couch to be parallel with the fireplace as those rear surrounds likely aren't do much in their current locations. You might want to consider front height speakers instead of the rear surrounds.

IIx is your best setting as EX only plays when the movie is encoded with EX while IIx takes any audio and simulates it up to 7.1.


Yeah, not ideal, but the room is more for my son (10 months) than me. I ran extra speaker wire to the front L/R in case I ever wanted to do front heights.

When sitting on the couch, it sounds ok, since the center, Front L/R, surround L/R are essentially in the right places, just makes for a confusing experience when the rears come into play.

Thought I read somewhere that EX has the rears function together, I thought that might be better since both rears are basically 'rear lefts'

When it's just me watching a movie or playing a game, I drag my recliner to the center of the room.

I will try it on IIx. Thanks
LL
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LL
post #2803 of 5035
Just seen on AVS FB page they're selling the 2311 at a great price for those that are interested. One catch is I don't see AVS listed as an authorized seller on Denon's site.
https://shop.avscience.com/Denon-AVR-2311CI_p_41.html

After looking a bit....it's not the best price but the small difference in price goes to help support these great forums.
post #2804 of 5035
AVS is most definitely an authorized Denon reseller and listed on their website as such (although not an on-line etailer, rather their regular B&M listing).
post #2805 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

AVS is most definitely an authorized Denon reseller and listed on their website as such (although not an on-line etailer, rather their regular B&M listing).

I stand corrected, thanks. I see them now using 14580 as the zip.

I'm really tempted to buy but with all the new models coming I have to restrain myself. With hundreds on the line I don't want buyers' remorse.
post #2806 of 5035
Ok guys I need some help. I have he 891 and I am trying to figure out how to hook up my new ps3 headset to it so the sound comes out of the headset instead of the surround sound.

I have the PS3 via HDMI to the Receiver, then HDMI from receiver to TV.

I bought the Turtle Beach PX21 Ear Force

http://www.amazon.com/Force-PX21-Gam...1098605&sr=8-1

I want to be able to hook them up and play at night without bothering people. Just don't understand how to do it going through the receiver.

Any help would be great.

Thanks
post #2807 of 5035
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Originally Posted by grif32 View Post

Ok guys I need some help. I have he 891 and I am trying to figure out how to hook up my new ps3 headset to it so the sound comes out of the headset instead of the surround sound.

I have the PS3 via HDMI to the Receiver, then HDMI from receiver to TV.

I bought the Turtle Beach PX21 Ear Force

http://www.amazon.com/Force-PX21-Gam...1098605&sr=8-1

I want to be able to hook them up and play at night without bothering people. Just don't understand how to do it going through the receiver.

Any help would be great.

Thanks

I'm in the same boat! Was planning on giving it some attention this weekend. I'll get back to you, and ill be checking back incase someone give the best method before hand
post #2808 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by grif32 View Post

Ok guys I need some help. I have he 891 and I am trying to figure out how to hook up my new ps3 headset to it so the sound comes out of the headset instead of the surround sound.


In addition to the HDMI cable from the PS3 to the 891 for surround sound, you'll also need to connect an analog cable from the PS3 to the 891 analog jacks with the same label as is used for the PS3 HDMI input source name (eg. if using BD for the PS3 source name, then also plug the analog cable into the BD analog jacks). The head phones can then either be plugged into the DVR OUT analog jack, or it appears there is a special cable that comes with the headphones that may allow you to connect the PS3 analog output directly to the headphones without connecting to the 891 at all.
post #2809 of 5035
Apologies if this has been addresses but i looked over the thread and did not see addressed.

I have Denon 1911
Panasonic Viera TC-P54 S2
Time Warner HD Cable box

Got the Denon and Panny new at same time so if there were an issue with one not working properly i may not know.

Hooked up Cablebox to AVR with new HDMI cable in input 1
(other inputs are used as well)
HMDI out goes to TV again with new cable

When i first hooked it all up the sound from AVR while watching TV was terrible, Had to turn it way up and then still the volume fluctuated but was never as loud as it should have been (ie i switch the input to FM radio and it blasted out the speakers so speakers hooked up correctly). Also at this time the volume on the TV simply did not work no matter how loud. Now I get that the volume control on the TV will not work when using the AVR - thats cool... but my audio is terribly inconsistent. Example, right now watching OSU Kentucky basketball game on CBS. My CBS HD channel looks great on TV and the audio is great from the AVR. MY CBS standard feed channel looks like standard (crap) and the audio is horrific... hard to hear and it changes volume constantly (from very hard to hear to almost no sound). Now I mention how the picture looks on the TV because two other standard definition channels (NBC and MSG) have great looking pictures (like an HD feed) and the sound is great through the AVR. And to add to it - some of my HD channels sound horrible as well but they are HD channels and maybe the actual feed is not HD??

Based on the above i was thinking maybe the HD versus Standard feed was messing up my audio throught he AVR but before I sent this i went through a bunch of channels and I do not think it to be the case. I am baffled.

So i am open to suggestions but i do have one specific question - should a HD versus standard digital feed from my cable box VASTLY impact the audio form the AVR?

UPDATE: after i posted i checked some email and left the TV on the same station for 5 minutes (yea i'm a guy go figure). Well in the period the program went through a few commercials - some had no sound, some it was very faint and some sounded fine...... so maybe all my channel and HD feed bantering above is moot - something audio from cable box to AVR is not being being properly understood by AVR
post #2810 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

In addition to the HDMI cable from the PS3 to the 891 for surround sound, you'll also need to connect an analog cable from the PS3 to the 891 analog jacks with the same label as is used for the PS3 HDMI input source name (eg. if using BD for the PS3 source name, then also plug the analog cable into the BD analog jacks). The head phones can then either be plugged into the DVR OUT analog jack, or it appears there is a special cable that comes with the headphones that may allow you to connect the PS3 analog output directly to the headphones without connecting to the 891 at all.

They can't just simply use the headphone jack on the AVR? I can't imagine why not.
post #2811 of 5035
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Originally Posted by Habs11 View Post

So i am open to suggestions but i do have one specific question - should a HD versus standard digital feed from my cable box VASTLY impact the audio form the AVR?

Hi Habs, try resetting the cable box. Or try optical cable for audio to see if you get the same result.
post #2812 of 5035
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

They can't just simply use the headphone jack on the AVR? I can't imagine why not.

Its USB connection that plugs into the PS3 and then red/white cables out for sound. I don't have anything to just plug directly into the headphone jack. Plus I wouldn't have in game chat.

OK, I finally figured it out. I had to dig out the old Scart cables that came with the PS3, hook them up to the back of the PS3, take the Red/White cables that came with the headset and plug the Scart Cables Red/White into the Headsets Red/White and plug them into the back of the TV.

Hook the Headset up to the PS3 via USB and go into settings and change the following:

turn on the Audio Multi Output in your PS3. (“Settings” → “Sound Settings” → “Audio Multi-Output”).

This will allow you to use the standard PS3 AV cable simultaneously with an HDMI or digital (optical) audio output.

Everything works perfect now

Thanks for the help. Very frustrating for sure.
post #2813 of 5035
^^
If you set the PS3 setting "Multi Audio Out" to YES and connect the way I suggested you won't have to change back an forth.
post #2814 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
If you set the PS3 setting "Multi Audio Out" to YES and connect the way I suggested you won't have to change back an forth.

That's what I did see above in my post. I thought I had to switch back and forth but I do not have to.

Thanks again for the help. Everything works great now.
post #2815 of 5035
how about with a xbox 360? Newer version with hdmi.
post #2816 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by sforza View Post

how about with a xbox 360? Newer version with hdmi.

Hi sforza, the new Xbox 360 slim comes with its own A/V dongle (composite cables - yellow, red & white) and its active with HDMI out.
post #2817 of 5035
Are the 1911 and 2311 lows and highs or is it a balanced sound from top to bottom?
post #2818 of 5035
I am new so I hope this is right. I have a Samsung 46" 6300 hdtv. I recently hooked up my Denon 1911. I connected it via hdmi's from my Dish box to the receiver to the hdtv. Maybe its just me but I dont think that the picture is as clear as it was when I wasnt running through the receiver. I am 100% sure that everything is connected properly with the right settings. Any ideas or is it just me?
post #2819 of 5035
^^
If it's not as clear, then simply turn the setting to OFF to avoid any video processing by the AVR. This is generally the best option when either the cable/sat box, Blu Ray player, or TV itself does a better job of video processing then the chip in the AVR.
post #2820 of 5035
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irrivirsible View Post

Are the 1911 and 2311 lows and highs or is it a balanced sound from top to bottom?

Yes. Denons are neutral and accurate in their preamps and amps. In addition, with Audyssey EQ, the speakers are EQ'd to even out and optimize their performance. So you get as close to "reference" performance as they are able to produce, when listening at reference level (MV=0). Audyssey Dynamic EQ applies further processing to keep that reference, balanced SQ in place even when you turn the MV down to more reasonable levels. IMO Audyssey is the biggest value-added feature for SQ in AVRs developed in many years.
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