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post #4411 of 4873
No, you shouldn't be listening at a volume that is uncomfortable and with those very efficent front mains, it makes sense that -25db is really loud, although if you are using Audyssey Dyn EQ it will boost the sub at those lower volumes. When using the Pioneer, are you listening at the same volume (as measured by an SPL meter and not the master volume level)?
post #4412 of 4873
thank you for your time. I am rerunning audyssey, and will post the results. Thanks again for your time. I have spent well over 100 hours over the last 2 years trying to get the sound right.
post #4413 of 4873
I just reran audyssey and it set my fronts to large. Channel level check to front l -4, center +2, front r -7, surr r +2, surr l to +2, and subs to -5.5. Crossovers to fronts full band, center 150, and surr to 110. I know from all of research over the last 2 years, to change my fronts to small, and set xover to arround 80. Thanks again.
post #4414 of 4873
With those efficient FL/FR speakers I would have expected maxed out trim settings of -12db each. Try bumping up the sub level to closer to 0db using the "CH Level" button on the remote and see if that helps.
post #4415 of 4873
Yes that helped, however the bass is still lacking punch to it.
post #4416 of 4873
I just turned my gain knobs up from 12 too 2 oclock. This seemed to bring the rumble to good levels without the distortion. My wife is not happy right now, she says to much bass. That means it is good. Thanks again. I think I will buy the 891 with ipod dock from acces4less for 390 shipped. Will it help out my 2 subs by having an avr with 2 sub outs. As you know the 790 only has 1, and i am currently using a monster cable splitter.
post #4417 of 4873
Raise the sub level higher then ... although as I said, if you're using the Audyssey Dyn EQ setting then the sub should already be boosted at those lower volumes below master volume 0db. Understand however, that boomy bass (although perhaps preferred) doesn't equate to better audio. The only other thing I would suggest, as you're upgrading to a 3D AVR anyway, make sure you purchase from a reseller that will allow you to return if you are not satisfied.

Note that after you run AUTO SETUP, any further adjustments to the sub should be using the "CH Level" button only and NOT on the sub itself. An AVR with dual sub preouts simply has the $3 "Y" splitter cable internal to the AVR so no, having dual sub preouts doesn't do much, other than save you the $3.
post #4418 of 4873
thanks, again.
post #4419 of 4873
I notice in the menu of my 791 for Sharp TV device codes it says 'code 1/3'. Does this mean there are three codes? I tried the one that shows and it does not work. If so how do I toggle to see the other two codes so I can try them?

Thanks
post #4420 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

My point is that regardless of whether you use "manual" or "auto" tuning, if a FM broadcast is in stereo, then you should be able to get it in stereo either way. Using "auto" searching is going to lock in on the strongest signals which tend to be stereo. Mono signals are used to broadcast farther distances, but are generally weaker.

Having had the AVR-1912 and now the AVR-2112ci I can verify the function of the Auto Tune/Manual Tune setting on the FM tuner absolutely functions as a Stereo/Mono switch. I can only tune in stereo in "Auto" mode. The AVR-1912 and AVR2112 both have this "feature".
post #4421 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noose View Post

I notice in the menu of my 791 for Sharp TV device codes it says 'code 1/3'. Does this mean there are three codes? I tried the one that shows and it does not work. If so how do I toggle to see the other two codes so I can try them?

Thanks

I figured it out. Re-read the manual and had to hit one of the quick selects for it to let me try a second code that worked.
post #4422 of 4873
The BD input and DVD input on my 1911 stopped working. Mysteriously, I might add. The Sat and game HDMI inputs still work fine.
Anyone ever have a similar blowout?
Yes I did reset the microprocessor. Just get a blank screen on those inputs. Even the 1912 menu GUI goes on and off on those hdmi inputs.
Called Denon- told me to take it to repair center.
Wha happened??
post #4423 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacdaddyPS View Post

The BD input and DVD input on my 1911 stopped working. Mysteriously, I might add. The Sat and game HDMI inputs still work fine.
Anyone ever have a similar blowout?
Yes I did reset the microprocessor. Just get a blank screen on those inputs. Even the 1912 menu GUI goes on and off on those hdmi inputs.
Called Denon- told me to take it to repair center.
Wha happened??

I had something similar on my 1911 several months ago, except all of my HDMI inputs quit working. I thought it might have been due to a nearby lightning strike, but was never certain because I had not used the 1911 for about a two-week period around that time.

It was still under warranty, but I was skeptical whether Denon would repair it or not. I sent it to them, at a cost of ~$50, they repaired it and sent it back. I've been using it daily since then, and it works like new. I wasn't happy with having to foot the one-way shipping cost without knowing for certain that they'd repair it, but I was quite impressed otherwise.
post #4424 of 4873
Interesting that they had you send it to them instead of a local authorized repair center as they did with me.

Any explanation of what caused the problem? Never had a problem with ANY receiver of any brand before.

Things that make you go Hmmmm....
post #4425 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacdaddyPS View Post

The BD input and DVD input on my 1911 stopped working. Mysteriously, I might add. The Sat and game HDMI inputs still work fine.
Anyone ever have a similar blowout?
Yes I did reset the microprocessor. Just get a blank screen on those inputs. Even the 1912 menu GUI goes on and off on those hdmi inputs.
Called Denon- told me to take it to repair center.
Wha happened??

HDMI boards are known to go bad from time to time ... especially if there has been a recent power surge or electrical storm .... it just happens.
post #4426 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacdaddyPS View Post

Interesting that they had you send it to them instead of a local authorized repair center as they did with me.

Any explanation of what caused the problem? Never had a problem with ANY receiver of any brand before.

Things that make you go Hmmmm....

Perhaps you are just fortunate enough to be located near a local authorized repair center.

hmmmmmmmmm
post #4427 of 4873
Hi. here I am again as I haven't figured out how to remore the fullband setting of my speakers. Can you please check out the parameters and tell what do you think ?

Denon AVR-891
Polk M70 front
Polk CS20 center
PolkM20 surround
sub is Polk PSW505
cable box: videotron illico explorer 8642 HD
TV: Samsung 59" plasma & 3D


OK....here I go. I was told I should not have my speakers to "fullband"
so what I did was :

I go to manual setting

Then I go to Speaker Setup

Then I go to Speaker Config

Then I get this:


Then I go to Bass Setting
then I get this:


then I go to Crossover Frequency


then to check if everything is OK, I go check my parameters:

I go Menu , then I go auto setup , then parameter check
I go Speaker Config Check and I get this:


why are my speakers still Large ??

then I go Crossover Check and I get this:


Why everything still fullband ?????????


can you please help me get the best of my system. be gentil... I am a slow learner... Please if you know my problem, try giving me step by step instructions.....

thanks in advance

stef
post #4428 of 4873
Hi stef, you don't have a problem. Paramater check is showing the settings set by running "AUTO SETUP". The settings in "MANUAL SETUP" is showing what changes you made which are what is active. Suggest setting front crossover to either 60Hz of 80Hz.
post #4429 of 4873
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi stef, you don't have a problem. Paramater check is showing the settings set by running "AUTO SETUP". The settings in "MANUAL SETUP" is showing what changes you made which are what is active. Suggest setting front crossover to either 60Hz of 80Hz.

Ho I'am soo happy now.... I worked and worked on this so many times thinknig I had a problem.... hap I will put front at 80 ( don't know why it's not there already... )

1000 thank you. I love this place...

also is LPF to LFE at 120 good ?? in picture #2 ( chinese to me... hehe )

stef
post #4430 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by herbeapuce View Post

Ho I'am soo happy now.... I worked and worked on this so many times thinknig I had a problem.... hap I will put front at 80 ( don't know why it's not there already... )

1000 thank you. I love this place...

also is LPF to LFE at 120 good ?? in picture #2 ( chinese to me... hehe )

stef

Spend some time with the outstanding guide provided here!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14456895
post #4431 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by herbeapuce View Post

also is LPF to LFE at 120 good ?? in picture #2 ( chinese to me... hehe )

Let me translate that for you ... yes, you're good at 120Hz .
post #4432 of 4873
I can't seem to get my 1911 to decode any of the HD audio formats from my BluRay. Bitstream is selected in my Panny, and I'm selecting the correct audio from the disc menu. I've tried several different discs and they all just light up the regular DTS or D Digital lights on the display. Stumped!

Thanks,
mb
post #4433 of 4873
^^^

the avr is passive... it only takes what the player gives it...

there's a setting on the player (or in the individual disk menu) that you are still missing in order to force the player to send the "correct" codec...

check in the thread for your bdp and see if anyone has any suggestions...

repeat... it's not the avr... it can't be...
post #4434 of 4873
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbr1 View Post

I can't seem to get my 1911 to decode any of the HD audio formats from my BluRay. Bitstream is selected in my Panny, and I'm selecting the correct audio from the disc menu. I've tried several different discs and they all just light up the regular DTS or D Digital lights on the display. Stumped!

Thanks,
mb

If the Panny has a "Secondary Audio" setting, set that to OFF.
post #4435 of 4873
Hi all,

Another bone-headed question... How accurate are the AVR test tones? I seem to remember that some past AVR tones were completely jacked up (don't remember which ones). As for a test disc, I only have SD-DVE, which, if I remember correctly, also has messed up LFE (10-13 dB too hot as verified by Avia I think... there was a thread a while back). I want to use Audyssey to do the rough setup, and fine tune via an SPL meter... Thanks!
post #4436 of 4873
^^
AFAIK, there are no issues with the frequency sweep test tones. The mic itself has an accuracy of +/-2db and if you use an SPL meter it too will have it's own accuracy limitations (eg. Radio Shack +/- 2db as well). Keep in mind that using the Audyssey filters is much more involved then simply level setting the speakers to a 75db test tone; however, you are free to adjust either the speaker or sub channel levels to suit your preference after running Audyssey as doing so will not impact the Audyssey filters.
post #4437 of 4873
Thanks for the reply jdsmoothie!

So the pink noise (as opposed to the frequency sweep) from the manual speaker setup is accurate to 75dB as well? What would you recommend for a basic speaker setup disc (i.e. DVE, Avia, etc)? Thanks!
post #4438 of 4873
^^^

unless there are obvious issues, i would run audyssey and let it take care of that for you... let it do its job...
post #4439 of 4873
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Originally Posted by Vader424242 View Post

I want to use Audyssey to do the rough setup, and fine tune via an SPL meter...

it's actually the opposite you and the SPL meter is the rough part and Audyssey is the fine tuning
post #4440 of 4873
+1

What Chris said ...
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