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post #4591 of 4863
3/15/12 at 8:54pm
Damn. It just shut off. a few days absolutely no problem. Was running the avr for about 6 hours per day without any problem.
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post #4592 of 4863
3/15/12 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by tpassage View Post

Here is my setup, AVR 1911 as the main brain that controls my whole system, I have a Sony 55 inch LED and a sony playstation 3, all of which are hooked via HDMI. In the 1911 set up I have HDMI control on. When i used to turn the TV off, the reciever would automatically turn itself off too, but something has changed recently, not sure if kids did anything but now when I hit the tv power button to turn it off, the receiver stays on and I can hear the audio from my all my speakers as they are hooked up to the receiver, even though the tv is off. Any help how to get the receiver to go off when i turn the TV off?

Thanks in advance.

Ensure BraviaSync on the TV is still enabled as well as HDMI Control on the 1911. If yes to both, then cycle HDMI Control on the 1911 OFF, then ON, shut down the AVR and TV and power back ON again.
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post #4593 of 4863
3/17/12 at 6:41pm
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Damn. It just shut off. a few days absolutely no problem. Was running the avr for about 6 hours per day without any problem.


any ideas guys? I unplugged all speaker wires left it on for awhile and it shut down. No speakers attached and its shutting down on its own.
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post #4594 of 4863
3/17/12 at 7:16pm
^^^

how much room are you giving it to breathe? keep in mind that most of the heat under "normal operating conditions" isn't being generated by the amplification section...
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post #4595 of 4863
3/17/12 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

how much room are you giving it to breathe? keep in mind that most of the heat under "normal operating conditions" isn't being generated by the amplification section...

it is completely open. It is sitting on top of a small table just a little wider than the avr itself. no top ..no sides.
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post #4596 of 4863
3/17/12 at 9:32pm
unfortunately, sounds like a defective unit. If it shuts off with nothing connected.... something is wrong.
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post #4597 of 4863
3/17/12 at 11:45pm
So, I'm not sure how to set this up properly.. I have been using my TV as a monitor for 3D gaming (no issues) and am just now starting to watch 3d bluray.. which is causing issues.

I currently have sound coming from my GTX580 video card via the hdmi 1.4 port running straight to the 1911. Then, I have a DVI cord running from the video card to the TV via an HDMI adapter. So, two cords from my video card outputting video and audio. This has worked fine for 3D gaming and any other playback from my computer.

However, when I try to play bluray DVDs in power dVd 11 (via 1080p24), it says it can't enabled 3D playblack. I have to select a checkerboard option, which appears to be lower quality. Is that because of my setup? Does DVI allow me to still use the 1.4? All 3 components are 1.4 3D video compatible, as are the HDMI cords I own.

Is there a way to run a single hdmi cable from the GTX580 for audio and video? So video card HMDI > Denon 1911 and then another one from Denon 1911 > Samsung HDMI 1 ?
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post #4598 of 4863
3/18/12 at 6:47am
My 891 just shut down out of the blue, no blinking lights, no nothing (and NO stdby light after shutdown). Been running a few hours a low volume (TV), 4 Monitor 40's, CS2 and PSW505.

I had one overheat over the Holidays when I had it cranked for an extended period of time but that's been the only problem. Coming up on a year since purchase.

Plenty of ventilation. Not really hot to the touch, just warm as expected.

Unplugged it and letting it sit. Any thoughts?
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post #4599 of 4863
3/18/12 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

unfortunately, sounds like a defective unit. If it shuts off with nothing connected.... something is wrong.

thanks. I'm taking it in for warranty repair.
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post #4600 of 4863
3/18/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

My 891 just shut down out of the blue, no blinking lights, no nothing (and NO stdby light after shutdown). Been running a few hours a low volume (TV), 4 Monitor 40's, CS2 and PSW505.

I had one overheat over the Holidays when I had it cranked for an extended period of time but that's been the only problem. Coming up on a year since purchase.

Plenty of ventilation. Not really hot to the touch, just warm as expected.

Unplugged it and letting it sit. Any thoughts?

Check the power source. Is it plugged into a power strip? Check for loose speaker wires from one post touching another post.
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post #4601 of 4863
3/18/12 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Check the power source. Is it plugged into a power strip? Check for loose speaker wires from one post touching another post.

Set up hasn't changed for some time except D* receiver on Friday.

Yes to the power strip (good quality). Everything else in strip fine. Checked all connections, all good, nothing has else changed. After letting it set an hour, powered back up and then it went again about 30 minutes later. I know this is a stretch but D* has been having some issues with reporting the wrong video resolution (for instance reports 1080i when producing 480P or 720P). I swapped to a D* receiver not having that issue and all has been good since.

Could the video processing have been causing an overheat?
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post #4602 of 4863
3/19/12 at 4:45pm
I think my 891 is heading south. The shutdowns are occurring more frequently. Anyone care to share their warranty service stories? Does Denon do a ship and replace or is this one of those "make it as inconvenient as possible" repair scenario?
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post #4603 of 4863
3/19/12 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

Set up hasn't changed for some time except D* receiver on Friday.

Yes to the power strip (good quality). Everything else in strip fine. Checked all connections, all good, nothing has else changed. After letting it set an hour, powered back up and then it went again about 30 minutes later. I know this is a stretch but D* has been having some issues with reporting the wrong video resolution (for instance reports 1080i when producing 480P or 720P). I swapped to a D* receiver not having that issue and all has been good since.

Could the video processing have been causing an overheat?

It's not likely, but the video processor can get quite hot so anything is possible.
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post #4604 of 4863
3/19/12 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

I think my 891 is heading south. The shutdowns are occurring more frequently. Anyone care to share their warranty service stories? Does Denon do a ship and replace or is this one of those "make it as inconvenient as possible" repair scenario?

When you drop it off/ship it to a Denon repair facility, the facility will attempt to repair it. Normal turn around time is generally 1-2 weeks depending on the backlog at the facility. If it's there for more than 30 days and the problem hasn't been resolved, they will likely ship a refurbished unit to you.
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post #4605 of 4863
3/20/12 at 7:17am
Hi guys,

Quick question. My 2311 will be without power for about three months (unplugged, not in standby.) My question is, how long will my settings and Audyssey calibration keep? Is there a battery that maintains memory? Will it simply reset back to factory defaults? Thanks!
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post #4606 of 4863
3/20/12 at 9:38am
^^
The current settings should last about 2 weeks, returning to factory defaults some time after that.
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post #4607 of 4863
3/23/12 at 5:03am
My Denon AVR-1911 remote (RC-1146) seems very unresponsive, I have to push the button 2 or 3 times to register the response from AVR.
Already tried reset the remote to no avail.
When I use my old Denon AVR-1906 remote (RC-979) on AVR-1911, it works fine.
Am I having a defective remote?
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post #4608 of 4863
3/23/12 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by hdtvboy View Post

My Denon AVR-1911 remote (RC-1146) seems very unresponsive, I have to push the button 2 or 3 times to register the response from AVR.
Already tried reset the remote to no avail.
When I use my old Denon AVR-1906 remote (RC-979) on AVR-1911, it works fine.
Am I having a defective remote?

Did you try new batteries? Similar experience on my 891 and that did the trick. Oh, one more thing. I have two 891's and set up the one in the game room rather hastily, leaving a protective film on the emitter (this was independent of the battery recommendation). Yes, I felt like a fool when my niece discovered that
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post #4609 of 4863
3/23/12 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by rakstr View Post

Did you try new batteries? Similar experience on my 891 and that did the trick. Oh, one more thing. I have two 891's and set up the one in the game room rather hastily, leaving a protective film on the emitter (this was independent of the battery recommendation). Yes, I felt like a fool when my niece discovered that

Yes, but it doesn't solve the problem
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post #4610 of 4863
3/25/12 at 5:18pm
Hi Folks,
I have a new AVR-891, but was hoping to use my old Polk Audio RM6200 speakers with its modest, included PSW250 subwoofer in a configuration that allows the Denon receiver to control its crossover, output, etc.

Unfortunately, this older, amplified subwoofer appears to offer no unfiltered/LFE inputs - only speaker I/O connectors and Line Level In (L/R).

I'd prefer to have the AVR-891 be my center of control for all speaker levels, so wanted to eschew the use of speaker I/O connectors with the subwoofer. However, on the possibility of using Line In, two configuration options seem to point towards essentially keeping the subwoofer invisible to my Denon receiver:

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OPTION #2
This method can be used with electronics that include a “SUB OUT” feature (Figure 4, previous page). It is not recommended for use with RM6200 or RM6600 Systems. Connect a single RCA cable from the “SUB OUT” of your electronics to the LFE input of the subwoofer. This input bypasses the subwoofer’s variable low pass filter and relies on the filter built into your electronics. If your “SUB OUT” is an unfiltered signal (check your owner’s manual), use either left or right “Line Level Input,” to use the low pass crossover in the subwoofer.

When using option #2, it is necessary to adjust the settings of your electronics as follows: Front speakers = large or small depending on their output capabilities; Subwoofer = “ON”.

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OPTION #3
This method is for use with electronics featuring a “PRE OUT” – and may be used as a secondary hook up method for use with RM6200 or RM6600 Systems. Connect the left and right preamp output from your electronics to the left and right LINE LEVEL input of the subwoofer. This may require use of RCA “Y” cables (not supplied) to hookup both the subwoofer and your electronics (PSW250, PSW350, PSW450).

When using option #3, it is necessary to adjust the settings on your electronics as follows: Front speakers = LARGE Subwoofer = “OFF” or “NO”.

The RM6200 speaker documentation offers the following:

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" Line level inputs can be used when you run theLeft and Right Preamp outputs from you receiver or preamp to the subwoofer’s line inputs.

These are filtered inputs and require a full range output from your electronics to operate correctly.

"The subwoofer (LFE) output from your receiver is not recommended for use with the RM6200 system. The filter characteristics may not offer satisfactory blending.

Even though the subwoofer documentation seems to indicate that I should use a speaker I/O hookup or Option 3 (above), I was trying to determine if Option 2 might be reasonable. It seems that the final quote above takes Option 2 out of the running, but was curious about opinions from those here who have more experience in this matter than I.

I guess that my fallback considerations are to configure the subwoofer independent of the Denon or obtain a new powered sub which accepts LFE input.

Thoughts welcome.

Thanks,

- ooofest
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post #4611 of 4863
3/26/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by ooofest View Post

Hi Folks,
I have a new AVR-891, but was hoping to use my old Polk Audio RM6200 speakers with its modest, included PSW250 subwoofer in a configuration that allows the Denon receiver to control its crossover, output, etc.

Unfortunately, this older, amplified subwoofer appears to offer no unfiltered/LFE inputs - only speaker I/O connectors and Line Level In (L/R).

Page 7 of the Polk link you gave says under Option #2 that connecting to the LFE input of the subwoofer bypasses the subwoofer's variable low pass filter and relies on the filter built into the receiver.
Page 7 of the 891 manual recommends using a subwoofer's "direct mode," which would seem to be the LFE connection on the Polk. Try connecting the sub out of the 891 to the LFE of the Polk and running Audyssey. And read Batpig's primer on Dennon AVRs (http://batpigworld.com/).
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post #4612 of 4863
3/26/12 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by Eben View Post

Page 7 of the Polk link you gave says under Option #2 that connecting to the LFE input of the subwoofer bypasses the subwoofer's variable low pass filter and relies on the filter built into the receiver.
Page 7 of the 891 manual recommends using a subwoofer's "direct mode," which would seem to be the LFE connection on the Polk. Try connecting the sub out of the 891 to the LFE of the Polk and running Audyssey. And read Batpig's primer on Dennon AVRs (http://batpigworld.com/).

Thanks for your time and advice - the documentation is a bit misleading, because my model of subwoofer does not have the LFE input - that Polk documentation covers three version of the subwoofer from the same series.

That Option 2 in the Polk manual also states:

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. . . If your SUB OUT is an unfiltered signal (check your owner's manual), use either left or right Line Level Input, to use the low pass crossover in the subwoofer.

which seems to indicate that I'm more or less stuck having to configure this subwoofer in a manner that's transparent to the Denon, so Audyssey would not be able to configure it from the receiver's perspective.

Guess I was asking if this seems definitely the case or not in my current situation, before I decide to either run with that configuration or purchase a different subwoofer that has a distinct LFE input.

- ooofest
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post #4613 of 4863
3/26/12 at 1:31pm
^^^

hybrid of option 2 and 3...

connect the sub pre out from the avr to either the l or r line level input on the sub...

raise the xover on the subwoofer as high as it will go...

set speakers to small... sub to "yes"...

set the xover on the avr to at least 80hz...

that should get you what you want...
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post #4614 of 4863
3/26/12 at 1:51pm
I have a 1911 and I'm looking to use a marantz receiver to drive the front channel speakers. Will the preouts on the 1911 let me do this? I've tried setting it up but have thus far been unsuccessful so some tips would be highly appreciated!
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post #4615 of 4863
3/26/12 at 2:04pm
^^^

the 1911 doesn't have pre-outs... only a subwoofer line out...
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post #4616 of 4863
3/26/12 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

the 1911 doesn't have pre-outs... only a subwoofer line out...

So the zone 2 outs can't be used as pre-outs? I thought i read somewhere that they could....
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post #4617 of 4863
3/26/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

hybrid of option 2 and 3...

connect the sub pre out from the avr to either the l or r line level input on the sub...

raise the xover on the subwoofer as high as it will go...

set speakers to small... sub to "yes"...

set the xover on the avr to at least 80hz...

that should get you what you want...

Thanks Chris, I think the key you offered is setting the subwoofer as high as it will go, which (now that I've read it in black and white) makes plenty of sense to try.

- ooofest
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post #4618 of 4863
3/26/12 at 3:17pm
@smelly...

no, not for the primary zone...
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post #4619 of 4863
3/26/12 at 3:18pm
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Originally Posted by ooofest View Post

Thanks Chris, I think the key you offered is setting the subwoofer as high as it will go, which (now that I've read it in black and white) makes plenty of sense to try.

- ooofest

you are welcome... also, if there's a phase knob, set that to 0...
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post #4620 of 4863
3/27/12 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by ooofest View Post


Thanks Chris, I think the key you offered is setting the subwoofer as high as it will go, which (now that I've read it in black and white) makes plenty of sense to try.

- ooofest

I also have a Polk sub and I have it connected as ccotenj described it and Audissey run without issues.
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