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post #4861 of 5023
Hey guys. Sorry if this question has been asked before, but I could not locate the answer.
How do I view the Audyssey EQ graphs on my Denon 2311CI? I don't think I'm hallucinating, but I think I remember displaying the info on my screen somehow before. I recently bought some new furniture and built my own subwoofer. Naturally, I recalibrated. I am very interested to see what the graphs look like with my new setup.
post #4862 of 5023
Audyssey setup > parameter check. But FYI there are no subwoofer graphs. And the graphs themselves are only a crude representation of what Audyssey is doing.
post #4863 of 5023
Cool. Thanks, man. I'll check it out!!
post #4864 of 5023
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Other than ensuring there is a good connection between the mic cable and the AVR, you might want to try resetting the microprocessor a few more times, otherwise looks like it may have to be returned. frown.gif

It was indeed a defective receiver, so I arranged for repair back at Denon's refurb'er. I guess as soon as they got confirmation of my shipping, they sent me a replacement which I received today. BUT, looks like they sent me a 2312 instead. Doesn't that mean I lose HD Radio and the 2 CH amp assign? Isn't the 2 CH amp assign the cool feature where stereo/direct mode for stereo sources go to these amp terminals (with a different set of speakers)? Am I correct in thinking that the 2312 cannot do this? I'm a bit bummed; I can live without HD radio (even though I've already purchased an outside FM antenna), but I will not do without the ability of using my newly purchased full-range towers for music listening. Could I possibly just use one of the setup buttons for configuring my music listening.
post #4865 of 5023
The 2312 has the same Amp Assign options. Not sure where you got that in your head.

See pg 102 of the OM:

post #4866 of 5023
Whew! Thanks Batpig, I don't have the bandwidth to dl the manual here. AC4L didn't list the 2CH option in their features listed, so I thought something had changed with this flexibility. Guess it just comes down to Networking vs HD Radio then.
post #4867 of 5023
Networking pretty much obviates the HD radio IMO, you should be able to get any of your local stations (and hundreds more non local) via the Internet Radio feature. Plus you step up to MultEQ XT, and get all the other network goodies like smartphone app control, Pandora and Airplay, web browser interface, etc. IMO you ended up a big winner here, the 2312 is a better receiver all around.
post #4868 of 5023
Yeah, I definitely agree after thinking it through. I got lucky and ended up with a great deal in a roundabout way. Thanks for your info and thoughts.
post #4869 of 5023
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone knew a way to disable the headphone jack of the AVR-1911?

I know it sounds weird but I have the Denon powering an "outdoor living room" on my roofdeck, housed at the top of the stairs leading up there and it gets super hot and humid up there. I've got 2 vortex fans blowing on the electronics and I know its not optimal but unless others have better ideas for cooling its the best I could come up with. Anyways, the only negative repercussion I've witnessed (other than an inevitable decrease in the longevity of my equipment) is that somewhat regularly I won't be get any sound out of the Main Zone, but have sound out of the 2nd zone. This issue is traced back to the headphone jack being tripped (as if there is a set of headphones plugged in) by the humidity (or at least thats my best guess). Usually blowing out the headphone jack with some duster and flipping the receiver on then off brings sound back to the Main Zone but it would be much better if I could just disable the headphone jack completely. Anybody know a way? I'm sure its not advisable but could I just pop open the case and clip the wires leading out of the jack? Or is that flat out not worth the risk (not OVERLY concerned with voiding my warranty, which I'm sure that would do). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
post #4870 of 5023
What about covering the jack so it doesn't get dust in it? Maybe, something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-1-4-Jack-Rubber-Plug-6-35-mm-Audio-Stereo-Jack-Anti-Dust-Plug-Jack-Covers-/251287280395?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a81e39b0b
post #4871 of 5023
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Originally Posted by thx1138 View Post

What about covering the jack so it doesn't get dust in it? Maybe, something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10x-1-4-Jack-Rubber-Plug-6-35-mm-Audio-Stereo-Jack-Anti-Dust-Plug-Jack-Covers-/251287280395?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a81e39b0b

haha wow, didn't know something like that existed! certainly going to try that before I start clipping wires like the Hurt Locker...
post #4872 of 5023
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Originally Posted by EJcal View Post

Hi All,

Strange issue with my Denon AVR 891, it seems that the mute will shut itself off after a certain period of time. When it first happened, I assumed it was some strange IR reflection that must have triggered it, but I have never been using a remote when it has happened...but now it seems to be a routine thing and it happens all the time. I checked in the menus to see if there was some kind of option in the setups for that and nothing. Can't figure it out. I guess one option is simply to turn the volume all the way down instead of using muting. Not that big of a deal, but just a curiosity to me...anyone run across this?

Try powering off and unplugging the unit for 10 minutes and see if that resolves it, otherwise, you may want to reset the microprocessor (p. 82 OM) noting that this will return all settings to their factory defaults and require you to run Audyssey setup again.
post #4873 of 5023
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try powering off and unplugging the unit for 10 minutes and see if that resolves it, otherwise, you may want to reset the microprocessor (p. 82 OM) noting that this will return all settings to their factory defaults and require you to run Audyssey setup again.

I think that worked. Thanks!
post #4874 of 5023
Hello again. I am wondering that the best process is to accomplish adding two in-wall passive subs or perhaps 2 infinite baffle subs. I do not know how to wire them for use with my Denon 2311CI.

I have a very nice 7.1 setup. I have all 8" in wall speakers from Monoprice. My 4 surrounds are 2-way speakers, and my l/r mains are 3-way. I custom built a 300 watt powered 15" subwoofer in a large enclosure which doubles as an end table (sounds incredibly awesome, by the way). Overall, I am most pleased with everything. My setup would benefit from adding some additional low-end to my l/r mains, which will mostly help with music sound staging. To accommodate the living space, the best way to do this would be to either go with Monoprice 10" passive in-walls under my mains, or go with infinite baffle subs from Parts Express.

Either way, they will need an external amp(s) to power them. I would like to continue using my 15" custom sub, and my Denon does have 2 sub jacks on the back.

Can you make any wiring recommendations based on what info I've given? Series, parallel, LFE splitter? How can they best be connected to my Denon? Any amp suggestions? I'd prefer only purchasing/using one amp to power both in-wall subs.

Thanks in advance.
post #4875 of 5023
If your FL/FR speakers are set to SMALL/80Hz as is recommended when using Audyssey, there should be no reason to add low end to them. Otherwise, dual subs can be connected with an "Y" RCA splitter.
post #4876 of 5023
Indeed they are, JDS.

I was hoping to achieve more bass presence in the front area solely for music listening purposes. My sub is currently located behind the MLP and to the left...so its really impressive for movies, but I definitelty would like to hear more from the l/r mains for music.

It is not probable to relocate my sub because of its size. Trust me, it puts out a lot of quality bass - I was just hoping to hear a bit more from the front.

If I can't do this, I maaaay have to bust out my DCM TimeFrames in another room, just for music listening.

Any good Denon receiver recommendations for 2 channel stereo music?
post #4877 of 5023
Then as long as the passive subs are individually amped, you can still connect the current sub to one sub pre-out and the 2 new subs to the second sub pre-out via a "Y" splitter, or if speaker post only capable, connect each main speaker to a sub with the sub connected to each of the FL/FR speaker posts on the AVR. As is the case when adding any new speakers or subs, you'll want to rerun Audyssey again.
post #4878 of 5023
I "think" I figured it out.

What if I pick up two of these:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083705&p_id=4928&seq=1&format=2

And one of these:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10903&cs_id=1090305&p_id=9995&seq=1&format=2#description

Then...just connect the output terminals properly (l main to left sub, r main to r sub) and send the "input" of the speaker selector to the l/r main terminals on the 2311CI?

Will that in essence, give me the lower end I want from the front mains, while still sending only the LFE to the sub I custom built? I think so. I will basically make my l/r mains "bigger" in the eyes of the Audyssey, without technically adding another sub.

The selector is supposed to send the proper impedence to the amp. I just wonder, if I connect an 8 ohm 3-way speaker to a passive sub, what that may do the the overall impedence. Both the 3-way and the passive sub are rated at 100 watts nominal, 200 watts peak.

Hopefully ths will work. Buying a separate amp and doing another sub setup will probably have bad results. I have read that with my version of Audyssey, it will treat 2 subs (or in my case - 3) as one during the calibration process.
post #4879 of 5023
^^ Sorry to be a pain. I posted on the MonoPrice forum and haven't heard whether the wiring scheme for my l/r mains and passive subs would "work" in achieving my goals. Does anyone happen to know if this can/will work? I don't want to buy the equipment and risk blowing my receiver or anything.
post #4880 of 5023
This is kind of a hail mary but: is it possible to output video through the main HDMI out AND a composite (analog) video out at the same time? I have the Denon powering a setup that is in another room from the main TV and have thus installed a 7" monitor right above it so I can make setup changes. Because of my setup I'm having significant handshake issues as the Denon/Mac Mini that I'm using as input sorts out the monitors. Also I can only view the Mac Mini's content on this small monitor and not any other less utilized source. It would be much easier if I could run a composite cable from my Denon to the 7" monitor and just mirror whatever is being sent to the main TV, but I'm afraid this wouldn't be possible. Any help?
post #4881 of 5023
Just an update...

I recalibrated my system. Results were the same, but this time I left the crossovers where they were and did not up them to 80 hz. The crossovers for the l/r mains are 60 hz Nd the center channel is 40 hz.
The result is a better musical performance from the front speakers.
I think that rather than building in wall subs, I will just keep things as is.

At least for now. smile.gif

Thanks again for you help.
post #4882 of 5023
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Originally Posted by sethfeinberg View Post

This is kind of a hail mary but: is it possible to output video through the main HDMI out AND a composite (analog) video out at the same time? I have the Denon powering a setup that is in another room from the main TV and have thus installed a 7" monitor right above it so I can make setup changes. Because of my setup I'm having significant handshake issues as the Denon/Mac Mini that I'm using as input sorts out the monitors. Also I can only view the Mac Mini's content on this small monitor and not any other less utilized source. It would be much easier if I could run a composite cable from my Denon to the 7" monitor and just mirror whatever is being sent to the main TV, but I'm afraid this wouldn't be possible. Any help?

Shouldn't be a problem as long as you have a composite video cable connected from the source as well as an HDMI cable to the AVR.
post #4883 of 5023
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Shouldn't be a problem as long as you have a composite video cable connected from the source as well as an HDMI cable to the AVR.

So to clarify: you're saying I would need an HDMI AND composite cord going from EVERY source INTO the AVR in order to get the Denon to output mirrored displays to my TV and 7" monitor?
post #4884 of 5023
Yup.
post #4885 of 5023
Check out the video flow chart diagram in the beginning of your manual. They key thin to understand is that there is no "downconversion" of video signals, thus the need for the additional cables to provide a "legal" signal for the composite video output.
post #4886 of 5023
Quote:
Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Check out the video flow chart diagram in the beginning of your manual. They key thin to understand is that there is no "downconversion" of video signals, thus the need for the additional cables to provide a "legal" signal for the composite video output.

I gotcha, that makes sense though will be slightly difficult to actually implement. Not sure how I'd get an analog video source out of my Mac Mini which is where the 7" monitor is most useful. Hypothetically, lets say I do get one of those yellow plugged composite cords into the AVR for each source, what special settings would I need to enable to get dual video out from all the sources?

And by the way, thanks so much for the information. You guys are the best.
post #4887 of 5023
Nothing. The composite video IN will only go out the composite video out and the HDMI IN will only go out via the HDMI OUT. smile.gif
post #4888 of 5023
Since its the Mac mini you care about, what about simply getting a splitter for the monitor output and running that directly to a small secondary monitor?
post #4889 of 5023
I posted this in main forum prior to seeing the owners' thread....

I have a Denon 2311ci that i had been using for my theater setup. I replaced it with a Marantz separate system several months back. I want to use the 2311ci to run (2) pairs of outdoor speakers (KEF Ventura 6 rated at 6ohms). I hooked it up and during recent use, the AVR is running very hot and has shut off a few times.
I have since picked up an external amp in an attempt to help alleviate some of the load that the 2311 was carrying and using it now only as a pre. I have an Apple TV hooked up, via HDMI, to stream music to the outside speakers. After hooking up the external amp, however, and trying to run it through the Zone 2 preout config, this will not work anymore. Is there any other setups that will allow me to still use the Apple TV to stream music, via the HDMI input, and output to an external amp to drive these speakers?
post #4890 of 5023
HDMI signals (or any digital signals) will not go to Zone 2.

But a question -- if you are using the 2311CI to directly run the outdoor speakers, why even use Zone 2? As far as the 2311 is concerned, those are the "main zone" right?
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