*OFFICIAL* Denon AVR 391 / 591 / 1611 Owner's Thread - Page 51

Add me to the list of owners - I just bought a 591 a couple hours ago from Amazon. One or two retailers had it somewhat cheaper, but since I'm a Prime member the 3.99 to ship it next day sealed the deal. I'll have it tomorrow.

Can't wait !

Not the only reason to get the 1611 instead of the 591. You may be able to get more input flexibility at a lower price. As batpig told you, please check the first post of this thread. Knowing now what I didn't know then, I would have purchased the 1611 from an online vendor instead of the 591 I did purchase from the local big box.

Nevertheless, I'm happy. And I'm not complaining. I'm hoping Santa will bring me a new BD player. And, although this is way too much to even hope for, a 3D TV, too.

C'mon Santa.

Sorry, my bad! With the 591 you can have 7.1 if you get an additional 2-channel amp.

My problems are getting worse with my new 591. I think I got a lemon. I get no video output to my TV at this point. The Tv is a Vizio. I'm trying to output via hdmi and I get nothig. Is it possible that a setting is wrong? Is it time to send this thing back and buy something better?

Is there a master remote control list somewhere? I checked at the beginning of the thread.

Ideally I'd like my new Denon remote to control my FIOS HD box and my TV. I don't think its going to be able to control my PS3 (bluetooth), but I have hopes of eliminating some clutter all the same.

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Try the reset the microprocessor (p. 70) procedure. What was the result of using another STB model? If the same issue, then it may be the 591 considering you tried a component connection with the same result. If you can exchange it relatively easily (ie B&M store) do so, otherwise, I would suggest returning it and either getting a 1611 or trying a different brand of AVR.

Prior model year Denon AVRs listed the remote codes in the back of the Owner's manual, however, the HDMI 1.4 AVR remotes now have the codes stored in them. By control, if you simply mean turn ON/OFF then as long as the component has HDMI-CEC (which includes the PS3 slim) then the Denon remote should work for this. You can also list your specific TV and Fios box model and see if anyone is currently using the same models. You can also use the "Search This Thread" button in the various HDMI 1.4 Denon AVR threads using the TV and Fios model name/number as the keywords to see if you get any hits. Although generally the easiest (and most wife/kid friendly) solution is getting a universal remote (eg. Harmony) to control all the major functions of every component, rather than simply a few key functions which the Denon remote would be limited to doing.

Improved my issues but did not eliminate them by limiting the SPDIF output to 96kHz, previously sending 192kHz. Still not completely gone. Would love to hear from other Denon / HTPC users if they have a problem.

Like many others I have loud pops; Mine occur when skipping backward/forwards during video playback from WMC7. Connected through HDMI, DolbyDigital audio.

I had an AVR-590 with the same setup and never a single pop.

I submitted an online question at the Denon website.
We'll see what they say, but I think it is a firmware issue; They should not create pops when there is an interruption in the AC3 stream.

-R

To further make mine kid/wife friendly, everything goes though CEC. So it does not matter which remote they pick up, all basic functions can be handled by the tv remote (which controls volume through cec) and items turn on and off together. TV->1611->slim PS3

Best part like i said is once the movie is over I turn off teh TV and it shuts the rest down. And when i turn on the PS3 it automatically switches input and turns on the receiver and tv if not already on.

I've looked back a couple of pages and don't *think* I have a handshake issue but here it goes:

I have a Denon 1611, ps3, directv, and a Acer Revo 1600 htpc running linux. All of these are connected via hdmi.

PS3 and Directv work perfectly. HTPC displays video, but does not put out sound, ever. When I have it running directly to my tv, both video and audio works fine. I've tried connecting it to different inputs on the 1611, but none of them output sound. I've also tried to switch listening modes from direct, stereo, etc which doesn't work, and also tried changing settings on the htpc to output digital and stereo.

Any other ideas on what to try? At this point I really don't care if it's just stereo coming out, I need the sound to work too.

At least one review of that HTPC indicates audio issues when connected to an AVR. The reviewer's work around was to connect the HDMI directly to the TV with optical out from the TV to the AVR.

So I bought a Denon DHT-391XP from Amazon.com even after reading this thread (or at least most of it). It didn't seem like anyone here or anywhere else on the internet has ever had sound quality issues with the 391 receiver, so I went with the purchase.

I got my system setup today and was surprised to find that the sound quality in the midrange area seems... muddy. The 391 only has the ability to adjust the treble and bass only. It seems to me like the midrange is higher than it should be out of the box.

Is this just a known issue with the receiver and just not talked about, a setting I'm missing somewhere, or do I have a defective unit? It's not me because other people visiting the same thing.

I'm running my system in a 3.1 setup for the time being until I move in a couple of months. Any assistance is appreciated.

I found that I did not set mine up right the first time and it locked out the audio over HDMI and SPDIF for that input, except for stereo. I believe if I reset my AVR it will clear but for now I just switched to another input and it worked. What I had to fix on my HTPC was to reinstall my Nvidia HDMI Audio driver so that audio HDCP was reported to be working. After that everything connected fine but I am left with my speaker pop issue. I would be interested to here if you get the same pop once you get it working.

My findings after having this run through its paces for the first evening of watching some Blu-Ray & streaming Netflix as well as gaming:

A. Blu-Ray through my PS3 - awesome. I have the newer slim so I picked bitrate - I'm hearing things I never heard before from my older Onkyo TX-DS575. Its amazing. I really appreciate what this receiver can do.

B. Netflix, I wasn't as impressed with. My older Onkyo would try to convert the signal into Dolby so I'd get some sound out of the center channel - this receiver decides to play it in Stereo. Not sure what to do about that, as my PS3 is rigged correctly and everything else sounds wonderful.

C. Gaming - awesome. PS3 gaming sounds better, the 360 sounds the same. I expected that as the PS3 supports more audio formats.

I found the manual to be easier to read than people on this forum led me to believe it might. I ran into no issues, though I did not go very far into the advanced settings save the Input section.

Any tips for the Netflix issue?

You're looking for the Dolby PLII surround mode (p. 23) which will simulate a 5.1 signal from the Netflix 2.0 stereo signal. Play a Netflix movie and then press the STANDARD button on your remote until you see "DD PLII - Cinema".

Excellent !! What should I do to put the signal back to the way it was when I am done, or does it do that automatically?

Do I have to keep hitting the Standard button until I see 'Direct'?

Nope. Leave it on DD PLII - Cinema which will play the 5.1 sources as is and simulate 5.1 from 2.0/2.1 sources. The only reason to change it is if you prefer listening to 2 CH music in stereo in which case you would just press the D/ST button to get STEREO. You'll generally not want to use the DIRECT mode as Audyssey is not used in that mode.

So later when I put in a Blu-Ray disk it will not stay stuck on this mode?

It will play what you want .... see p. 24 in your manual for more details.

Thank you for all your help - Netflix was that much better ! I appreciate your time !

I tried this, and also reseting the reciever. At first, the sound worked. Satisfied, I switched it over to the ps3 to play some games. After a couple of hours I wanted to watch a movie so I switched back and no sound. Nothing else changed.

What is your maximum KHz that you pass to the receiver under audio device properties. Although the receiver will pass the "test" at 192KHz it resulted in similar problems for me with my 1611. The manual actually states it will only accept 96KHz.

Just noticed you are running Linux so not sure how or if this will apply to you.

The midrange is both too loud and muddy? You can turn up both the bass and the treble to get it to the same loudness as the midrange. The muddiness might be due to your subwoofer's location or volume or both, but that's just a guess.

Have you put the receiver in direct mode and listened to a two-channel source such as a CD or a MP3?

Also, you could try connecting the surround speakers, even if you don't have a proper place to put them.

I have to say, though, that the unit you have is advertised as "entry level". Are you sure that you'll be happy at that level? If you upgrade from the 391 to the 591 you get a huge boost in the capability to equalize things like a midrange that's too bright. In fact, it makes the adjustment for you automatically. Of course, if the speakers themselves are "entry level" I'm not sure that any amount of equalization will make them sound good to you.

What sounds bad to you might not sound bad to others. Did you tell your friends your opinion of the audio quality before you asked them theirs?

Also, speaker placement is important. My son-in-law bought a 3.1 Bose system, and said he was disappointed in the way it sounded. He said it sounded a lot better when he heard it in the store. I was staying with them when he told me this. I suggested that the difference is due to speaker placement. I moved them around a bit, and thought they sounded better. Then, the next day, he moved them back to where he'd originally had them!

I'm hooking up a new 591 today. It will be several weeks before we have surrounds (wife wants in-ceiling). With 3.1 speakers, is it still useful to run Audyssey?

Does the 591 have any simulated surround processing for 3.1 speakers? (Onkyo markets something called "Theater Dimensional".)

I can't seem to get any audio from my XBOX360. I have an original 360 from 05 (no HDMI) and I have the component cables hooked up to the "DVD" input in the back, and I've also gone to the INPUT ASSIGN menu to make sure DVD is set up to "COMPONENT" "1-RCA" only. I'm pretty new to home theatre setup in general, but I think I've set everything up correctly, any tips as to why I'm not getting any audio. As a side note, I have also tried to hook up my Wii to the "DVD" inout with the same results. Thanks in advance!

Hi wordsmith1976, with xbox 360 video connected via component cables and audio via optical cable. Assign DVD source input under Comp to "1" and Digi to "O1" and then set Input Mode to Digital.

Most definitely. But first, read first post in this thread and follow links to recommendations on how to run Audyssey. Doing it properly makes all the difference.

Component video cables carry video only. You'll also need to run audio cables. Either digital (optical or single RCA) or analog (red/white RCA jack pair).