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post #3781 of 4472
10/22/11 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by upstate-avfan-da View Post

The analog dock jack is just a single jack (non RCA) I think right? It wouldn't work.

Thanks for the link, if I get desperate I may shell out the $40. Kinda pricey.

Dock analog audio jacks (red,white) which is below the Sat/CBL not the single video Dock jack.
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post #3782 of 4472
10/22/11 at 3:49pm
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Dock analog audio jacks (red,white) which is below the Sat/CBL not the single video Dock jack.

Ah didn't even realize they were there, I will try it out tomorrow... Wife is killing me to hook it up lol. Any ideas on the odd color coming through? Maybe I can take a picture tomorrow too. Its odd.
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post #3783 of 4472
10/22/11 at 4:07pm
No need for a picture. As there is no video chip in the 591, it's either the Wii, the cable or a defective 591 .. rule out 2 of the 3 and you have your answer.
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post #3784 of 4472
10/23/11 at 6:35am
Thanks JD, maybe I will just hook up to the tv direct. Have a feeling might be bad component on 591 if anything. Not worth dealing with service over as all my other stuff uses hdmi.
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post #3785 of 4472
10/24/11 at 8:59pm
Hey all, needing some help here!

Anyone have any video issues with a directv HD DVR (HR24) and the Denon 591? Everything has been working fine up until recently. Whenever I have the receiver on and the source as the DirecTv I get video issues. It's as if the video is out of horizontal sync. Part of the picture refreshes itself when the other part doesn't. This is usually lower half/vs top half. This doesn't seem to happen on Blu-ray discs or when I'm just passing through the Denon to the directv.

I've tried a microprocessor reset and that did nothing for me. Any suggestions?
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post #3786 of 4472
10/24/11 at 10:07pm
I have the HR24 and Denon 591 in my bedroom setup. Use it daily for the past 9 months or so. No problems at all.

What resolution are you sending out from the HR24?

Also try switching HDMI cables if you can.
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post #3787 of 4472
10/25/11 at 3:40am
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Originally Posted by totalkonfuzion View Post

Hey all, needing some help here!

Anyone have any video issues with a directv HD DVR (HR24) and the Denon 591? Everything has been working fine up until recently. Whenever I have the receiver on and the source as the DirecTv I get video issues. It's as if the video is out of horizontal sync. Part of the picture refreshes itself when the other part doesn't. This is usually lower half/vs top half. This doesn't seem to happen on Blu-ray discs or when I'm just passing through the Denon to the directv.

I've tried a microprocessor reset and that did nothing for me. Any suggestions?

If replacing the HDMI cables doesn't work, a work around is to bypass the 591 and connect the HDMI directly to the TV with an optical cable from the DVR to the 591.
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post #3788 of 4472
10/25/11 at 8:55am
jdsmoothie

You mean connect he audio directly, right? I could definitely try that. I have an optical cable laying around. I noticed that I went into the DirecTV setting and switched off "dolby digital" and the issue seemed to have gone away. I switched it back on now and it's still not doing it. I think I might have a faulty DirecTV receiver. It'll cost me $25 or so for shipping to get myself a refurbished replacement but I might just do that to rule out a bad DirecTV DVR as the root of the problem.
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post #3789 of 4472
10/25/11 at 9:01am
DVR--(HDMI)---> TV
DVR --(Optical) --> 591

Of course if the DVR is defective, replacing it should resolve your issue as well.
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post #3790 of 4472
10/25/11 at 9:02am
Jdsmoothie,

As always you have been helpful. The fact that the issue is only happening with the DVR to me seems a little suspicious of a bad DVR. $25 might be worth it just to ease my mind, because this video issue is downright distracting.
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post #3791 of 4472
10/25/11 at 10:16am
I purchased a denon 591BA system (open box) from Best Buy a few months ago. I've been having problems with the center speaker - I feel the sound from it intermittently becomes too low - it's as if the speaker wire connections at the back are 'lose' and cause noise/crackles in the sound. I've done the audyssey calibration a few times and I am familiar with the dynamic EQ, dynamic volume features etc. This problem occurs even when those features are turned off. I've also changed the speaker wires to 14-gauge. My front and surround speakers seem just fine - the sound is loud, clear, and crisp - but not from my center speaker.

My question is this: if there is something wrong with the center speaker, would the audyssey calibration function on this unit detect it? If not, is there a way for me to test the center speaker to make sure it's working within normal parameters.

I also purchased the Best Buy geek squad 2-year protection plan but they're asking me to bring in the entire unit for checkup which is a hassle.

I haven't tried resetting the microporcessor. Is it a good idea to do so?

Thanks for the help.
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post #3792 of 4472
10/25/11 at 10:19am
Sounds like you just got a defective center speaker. Try resetting the microprocessor before returning it back to BB.
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post #3793 of 4472
10/25/11 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by abuhafsa View Post

I purchased a denon 591BA system (open box) from Best Buy a few months ago. I've been having problems with the center speaker - I feel the sound from it intermittently becomes too low - it's as if the speaker wire connections at the back are 'lose' and cause noise/crackles in the sound. I've done the audyssey calibration a few times and I am familiar with the dynamic EQ, dynamic volume features etc. This problem occurs even when those features are turned off. I've also changed the speaker wires to 14-gauge. My front and surround speakers seem just fine - the sound is loud, clear, and crisp - but not from my center speaker.

My question is this: if there is something wrong with the center speaker, would the audyssey calibration function on this unit detect it? If not, is there a way for me to test the center speaker to make sure it's working within normal parameters.

I also purchased the Best Buy geek squad 2-year protection plan but they're asking me to bring in the entire unit for checkup which is a hassle.

I haven't tried resetting the microporcessor. Is it a good idea to do so?

Thanks for the help.


You could try using one of the other speakers as the center and giving that shot.

You could also do a microprocessor reset, but you will loose your audyssey calibration settings
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post #3794 of 4472
10/26/11 at 6:16am
Hi all,

I keep seeing the 1611 being recommended for posters asking about low cost setups. As that's what I'm looking for it's on my list. I'm putting together a 3.1 systems for HT only (blu ray, PS3, cable). The < $300 price tag is appealing but I can go higher if I gain some feature or capability that real-world users think are must haves. I'm such a newbie I don't know what I would be missing. Also, is there any issues with the 1611 that is resolved in later models?
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post #3795 of 4472
10/26/11 at 6:25am
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Nope .. no issues with the 1611. The primary benefit of it's replacement the 1612 is that it features a nicer GUI that can display over 2D video to include the volume bar (a feature you would have to jump up to the 2311CI/891 to get in the XX11/X91 models), but also loses 2CH in the process, dropping down to 5.1.
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post #3796 of 4472
10/26/11 at 9:31am
Thanks jdsmoothie. A few follow-up questions.

Regarding the volume display... not sure I fully understand your statement, so with the 1611 if I increase the volume via the AVR remote there's no visible display on the TV screen(no meter bar, no decimal value)? Seems odd...

Has there been a critical firmware update that I should be aware of? I know you can't update the 1611 via network but would like to know if there is something out there.

If any 1611 owners read this, I'd love to hear your real-world reviews.

Oh yea, this unit will be paired with (most likely) a Panasonic ST30/GT30 so I would be using the Panny Netflix app -- is there an issue of audio from the Panny back into the Denon? (Come to think of it, I could aslo use the PS3 Netflix app if that has benefits).

thanks!
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post #3797 of 4472
10/26/11 at 9:42am
Correct, no visible display of the volume bar on the TV, rather only on the AVR's front panel display. No critical update that I'm aware of. Audio from the Panny can be passed back to the AVR via the ARC feature on the TV over the HDMI cable that connects the AVR to the TV.
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post #3798 of 4472
10/26/11 at 9:49am
Thread Starter 
for a little bit more you might also want to consider the 1712 model, which should be just over your $300 price point. It offers a few "upgrades" in addition to the GUI/volume display that the 1612 has -- 2 more HDMI inputs (6 instead of 4), a few more analog inputs on the back (2 extra RCA audio and 1 component video), but most importantly the more advanced room correction of MultEQ XT instead of "regular" MultEQ.
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post #3799 of 4472
10/26/11 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct, no visible display of the volume bar on the TV, rather only on the AVR's front panel display. No critical update that I'm aware of. Audio from the Panny can be passed back to the AVR via the ARC feature on the TV over the HDMI cable that connects the AVR to the TV.

Thanks jdsmoothie. Great info. Your info on the volume display was exactly the real-world type of feedback I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

for a little bit more you might also want to consider the 1712 model, which should be just over your $300 price point. It offers a few "upgrades" in addition to the GUI/volume display that the 1612 has -- 2 more HDMI inputs (6 instead of 4), a few more analog inputs on the back (2 extra RCA audio and 1 component video), but most importantly the more advanced room correction of MultEQ XT instead of "regular" MultEQ.

Thanks batpig. Does the 1712 allow for analog devices to by sent via the single HDMI connection to the TV (e.g., a Wii)? I think I read that the 1611 has this but the 1612 did not. I guess I also have the same general question about the 1712... does it have any real-world issues that I should be aware of? (heading on over to the xx12 thread...).
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post #3800 of 4472
10/26/11 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by blur456 View Post

Does the 1712 allow for analog devices to by sent via the single HDMI connection to the TV (e.g., a Wii)? I think I read that the 1611 has this but the 1612 did not.

Hi blur456, neither receiver will pass analog audio through HDMI out (only HDMI Input). For a Wii (if its important to pass audio), you may want to consider a Wii2HDMI.
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post #3801 of 4472
10/26/11 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by blur456 View Post

Thanks jdsmoothie. Great info. Your info on the volume display was exactly the real-world type of feedback I was looking for.



Thanks batpig. Does the 1712 allow for analog devices to by sent via the single HDMI connection to the TV (e.g., a Wii)? I think I read that the 1611 has this but the 1612 did not. I guess I also have the same general question about the 1712... does it have any real-world issues that I should be aware of? (heading on over to the xx12 thread...).

Yes, the 1611 will let you pass analog video to HDMI but the 1612 and 1712 will not. Of the new models you'll have to at least go to the 1912 to get his feature.

I have the 591 which is the 5 channel version of the 1611 and I can connect a device via component video and it will output thru HDMI.
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post #3802 of 4472
10/27/11 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by totalkonfuzion View Post

You could try using one of the other speakers as the center and giving that shot.

You could also do a microprocessor reset, but you will loose your audyssey calibration settings

Thanks jdsmoothie and totalkonfuzion,

So I used one of the front speakers as the center speaker and couldn't hear any difference. Then I took the speaker to BB to compare it to one they had in store and couldn't hear a difference either. So it seems the speaker is fine. The wierd thing is, when I took it back home it sounded fabulous - and only the night before even my wife noted that there was 'something wrong' with the center speaker.

So now im beginning to think that the problem is not with the speaker but with the connections and/or the receiver. I haven't tried resetting the processor yet to avoid having to calibrate again - but I think I should just go ahead and do it.

Another thing, when playing the LOTR EE blu-ray, sometimes when I select 'Play Movie' from the main menu, I get loud pink noise from ALL the speakers. If I stop the movie and replay it doesnt happen again. Has anyone experienced this?
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post #3803 of 4472
10/27/11 at 11:01am
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If when you replaced the center speaker with a front speaker and still heard the crackling noise, it's likely something caused by the AVR. Reset the microprocessor and see if that resolves the issue.
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post #3804 of 4472
10/27/11 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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If when you replaced the center speaker with a front speaker and still heard the crackling noise, it's likely something caused by the AVR. Reset the microprocessor and see if that resolves the issue.

What's the difference between resetting the microprocessor and unplugging the unit for a few hours, other than erasing the setting from flash memory? I'm assuming that it's not the setttings in memory that are causing the erratic behavior, but the processor.

I'm just trying to understand what a reset would achieve that unplugging overnight wouldn't.

Thanks for all your help.
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post #3805 of 4472
10/27/11 at 11:49am
Unplugging results in a "soft" reset (no settings change) while a microprocessor reset results in a "hard" reset (settings return to factory defaults and often clears up other anomalous issues). Definitely worth unplugging first though if you've got the time.
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post #3806 of 4472
10/27/11 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

for a little bit more you might also want to consider the 1712 model, which should be just over your $300 price point...

I haven't found the 1712 for under $370, most places sell it for $399. Is there a place that usually sells these for closer to $300? accessories4less is sold out (they had them for this much).

thanks everyone for your responses, its been very helpful.
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post #3807 of 4472
10/27/11 at 1:31pm
Accessories4less is a brand new Denon authorized refurb reseller and is scheduled to get their first batch of Denon refurbs in next week at the earliest. Check with Electronics Expo and AV Science for their best deals on new stock.
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post #3808 of 4472
10/28/11 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Unplugging results in a "soft" reset (no settings change) while a microprocessor reset results in a "hard" reset (settings return to factory defaults and often clears up other anomalous issues). Definitely worth unplugging first though if you've got the time.

Thanks again.

I did a hard reset today and recalibrated. I watched a few scenes of Gladiator, FOTR, and LOTR and noticed that the center was much stronger than before. Dialog was clearer too. I'm going to spend some more time listening tonight but I think it did make a discernable difference.

One thing though, during calibration the mic fell off the couch onto the carpet below. It was attached to a stand. I hope I didn't damage the mic. Do you know if the mic that came with the unit is shock/drop resistant, or is it easy to damage?
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post #3809 of 4472
10/28/11 at 7:13pm
I doubt there was any damage, especially as it only fell on carpet. Run another AUTO SETUP to confirm.
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post #3810 of 4472
10/28/11 at 7:15pm
Has anyone used the Cinema EQ feature on the 591? It sounds like a 'night mode' option. Is it something worth leaving turned on for most movies? How does it interact with Dynamic Volume?

Thanks.
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