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post #3811 of 4464
^^
It's a throwback from pre-Dyn EQ/Vol times ... best to leave it OFF.
post #3812 of 4464
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by abuhafsa View Post

Has anyone used the Cinema EQ feature on the 591? It sounds like a 'night mode' option. Is it something worth leaving turned on for most movies? How does it interact with Dynamic Volume?

Thanks.

it has nothing to do with "night mode" or Dynamic Volume. Not sure what made you think it sounds like that.

Cinema EQ is a legacy method for rolling off high freq's to deal with harsh film soundtracks (a relic from the old days when DVD's weren't mastered well for HT). Try this next time: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cinema+eq

it is essentially redundant with the "reference" Audyssey curve. You should ONLY use it if you desire additional roll-off on the high freq's (e.g. if a particular soundtrack sounds "harsh" even with MultEQ engaged).
post #3813 of 4464
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I have the HR24 and Denon 591 in my bedroom setup. Use it daily for the past 9 months or so. No problems at all.

What resolution are you sending out from the HR24?

Also try switching HDMI cables if you can.


I'm sending 720p/1080i/1080p it seems to happen regardless of resolution, but maybe I could be wrong. It definitely happens on HD content more frequently. It's quite frustrating to be honest. It almost looks like old VHS tracking..it's very odd.

I've now switched ALL HDMI cables with on affect. I hooked up the directv receiver directly to the TV and watched an hour of a movie and did not see the affect. The second I hooked it up through the receiver and passed the video through the receiver the video issues was there again.

Ugh..so frustrated.

Are there any settings I can/should check on the Denon?

I've seemed to replicate it more at 720p output from the DVR...now this is the only source doing it, Blu rays and DVD's don't have this issue at all. This is what caused me to replace the DVR in the first place.

So now we have a new DVR, new HDMI cables and the DVR is the only source that has this issue and only when passing through the Denon 591. I have no idea why this is...it's puzzling to me.
post #3814 of 4464
Called Denon today and they advised me to try component cables and an optical cable for audio to see if I had the same issue. Really don't want to have to fallback on this but will try it for testing purposes.

I just watched Scream 4 at 720p and did not experience the same effect as watching HD content on DirecTV at 720p. Could it be that I'm having some sort of HDMI Handshaking issue with just the DVR?


Will try component cables and update you guys again
post #3815 of 4464
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Have you tried resetting the DVR? Also, you may be better served passing the HDMI from the DVR to the TV and optical to the 591 as using component doesn't provide the HDMI pass through option while in Standby.
post #3816 of 4464
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Have you tried resetting the DVR? Also, you may be better served passing the HDMI from the DVR to the TV and optical to the 591 as using component doesn't provide the HDMI pass through option while in Standby.

Yup, reset the DVR. This is a brand new unit. Latest firmware update on it. HR24/200. Everything had been working fine up until about a month ago when I started noticing this strange occurrence.

I could definitely circumvent the receiver for the video but the whole point of the receiver was for simplicity, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered really. I honestly think there is something haywire with the Denon 591..but Denon states that if the problem doesn't happen on more than one source then it isn't a problem they deal with. I can't replicate the issue on blu rays or DVD, even when I play them at 720p though.

Let me try to capture this effect on video and post it somehow.
post #3817 of 4464
Hopefully some kind soul can answer this question

Does the 591 have a virtual surround mode when headphones are plugged in?


If so, does anyone know how this compares to "Dolby Headphone" or the Dolby processors such as the Astro Mixamp and Turtle Beach Earforce?

Thanks!!!
post #3818 of 4464
I'm building my first real home theater, and am leaning toward getting a 1611 before they disappear completely. The key features were MultEQ (important for my irregularly shaped room), 7.1 support, and video conversion to HDMI. With the latter two features being dropped from the successor 1612, sticking with last year's model seemed to be the clear choice, unless there are any issues that haven't been apparent in what I've researched so far.

Going with a refurbished one would be a significant savings -- are there any widespread defects with this model that would make getting a refurb riskier than usual?

Also, the 75 wpc spec is a bit lower than the others in the same price range. I've heard not to place too much stock in this because the specs are all inflated and the actual power usage in home settings usually stays below 10. Is that right, or has anyone with this model actually felt it to be underpowered? It will be driving two each Infinity Primus P363 and P143 for now, in one half of a 12 x 25 space.

Thanks.
post #3819 of 4464
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Originally Posted by terminaldawn View Post

Hopefully some kind soul can answer this question

Does the 591 have a virtual surround mode when headphones are plugged in?


If so, does anyone know how this compares to "Dolby Headphone" or the Dolby processors such as the Astro Mixamp and Turtle Beach Earforce?

Thanks!!!

Yes, as noted on p. 25 of the Owner's manual, although cannot say how it compares with Dolby Headphone which is only on the flagship model, 5308CI.
post #3820 of 4464
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Originally Posted by Boojum42 View Post

Going with a refurbished one would be a significant savings -- are there any widespread defects with this model that would make getting a refurb riskier than usual?

Also, the 75 wpc spec is a bit lower than the others in the same price range. I've heard not to place too much stock in this because the specs are all inflated and the actual power usage in home settings usually stays below 10. Is that right, or has anyone with this model actually felt it to be underpowered? It will be driving two each Infinity Primus P363 and P143 for now, in one half of a 12 x 25 space.

Thanks.

No, no widespread defects with the 1611 and as the P363 are rated at 92db they should be fairly easy to drive. On average they'll only draw about 2-3W so the 1611 should serve you well, unless you like to listen to audio at blow the roof off levels.
post #3821 of 4464
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes, as noted on p. 25 of the Owner's manual, although cannot say how it compares with Dolby Headphone which is only on the flagship model, 5308CI.

Thanks
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I have the issue where my comcast cable box resets to defaut setting (720P). First it was happening when I upgraded to 3D TV and started using HDMI 1.4 cable directly to my TV. If i changed the cable to HDMI 1.3b the resets stopped. Then I added a Denon AVR-1611 into the mix and it started resetting again. Next I got the newest Comcast box Motorola RNG-200N which is supposed to support 3D and I could hook directly to my TV using an HDMI 1.4 cable without any resets. When I add the Denon back into the mix it starts resetting again. Weird because I can turn Denon or Comcast box on and off and it does not reset but when I power the TV off and on it then resets but only when connected to the Denon and not when straight to the box with the same cable. I have tried all the fixes listed including turning off simplink and all HDMI control. Only going directly to they TV and optical to the reciever works. I am really baffled since these receivers have HDMI inputs labeled sat/cable and say they support HDMI 1.4 and 3D but cannot be connected to these supposedly supported devices without handshaking issues. What the heck am I missing????? Note:TV is LG with ARC.
Thanks
post #3823 of 4464
^^
Cable/sat boxes often have issues when connected directly to an AVR. Your best solution may be to just connect directly to the TV w/optical to the AVR.
post #3824 of 4464
Hi All! For those unfortunate souls like me stuck in endless loops, excessive waiting times, audio and video drops using HDMI through the 1611 receiver, I ask you this:
Have you tried connecting BOTH HDMI AND COMPONENT AND OPTICAL CABLES TO YOUR TV? I know how stupid that sounds, really. BUT, it works. I had MANY issues with my Sony BluRay. It was mostly unusable through HDMI. So, I did what a lot of folks are doing now, falling back to component and optical cables. Which really is OK. But, if you are an A/V geek like me, and you've got the speakers, the home theatre room, the cables, and the time, you want that damn DD- TrueHD, and you want that damn DTS - Master Audio.

My question to all of you is this:
1 Have you hooked up both HDMI and component and optical cables?
2 Did you set up the receiver to use the HDMI input for video and audio?
3 Did you have the same problems as you were having before?

Like I said, I know this sounds nuts, but it worked for me!
post #3825 of 4464
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Just to confirm, all 3 cables are connected to the 1611, with the component and optical assigned to the same source name used for the source device HDMI cable? And after doing so, the HDMI handshake issue you were previously experiencing with the HDMI cable alone, went away?
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Just to confirm, all 3 cables are connected to the 1611, with the component and optical assigned to the same source name used for the source device HDMI cable? And after doing so, the HDMI handshake issue you were previously experiencing with the HDMI cable alone, went away?

I'll double check the settings tonight when I get home. However, I believe I set the audio AND video feed through HDMI - therefore the component and optical should be doing nothing...like I said, sounds crazy, but it worked for my Sony BluRay player. When I watch BR movies, the receiver says it's pushing out DTS MA or DD TrueHD to my speakers, no handshake issues like before.
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I have a quick question guys about the sub that's been driving me nuts since I bought it last year. I have the DHT-591BA hitb system.

Whenever the first time a low frequency sound comes in the sub kinda pops then kicks-in. Anyone else have this problem?

The controls on the sub are as follows: Volume is in the middle, polarity at 0, crossover at 180. And on the 591 receiver I haven't touched any of the sub settings. All are at default. I've also tried a different cables, but the same thing happens. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #3828 of 4464
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IIRC, a couple of 591BA owners have posted with sub issues, in the end getting the sub or whole setup replaced.
post #3829 of 4464
Zardoz04

I have the 591ba and I have the same exact issue. I contacted Boston acoustics customer support and they told me its normal. You hear the pop sound because the sub is in standby and the first low freq turns it on.
post #3830 of 4464
Thanks guys. abuhafsa, I called them too but the tech told me it sounds like an "electrical issue with the sub" and he suggested I get it repaired or replaced. And as luck would have it, I'm just over 1 year so the warranty for the speakers is gone. Funny how this always seems to happen when your warranty expires.
post #3831 of 4464
Zardoz04,

Just so that we're talking about the same thing. What I hear is a 'thump' when I turn the sub on or off. It also happens when the sub is on standby and I play something (coz its like turning the sub on). Are you referring to this thump as a 'pop' or are you hearing something different entirely?
post #3832 of 4464
So i tried to hook up my phone to the dock inpu(red/white, using cable that goes from 3.5mm headphone jack to red/white), however the sound does not come out of right speaker when using multi-channel stereo setting? Is there something I am missing?
post #3833 of 4464
Thread Starter 
sounds like you are getting a mono signal from the MP3 player. if you switch red/white does the sound come out of the right side now?
post #3834 of 4464
yeah, i did not try that (will do when i get home). I was able to get sound out of the right by switching to different modes.
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Below is email thread with BA cust support on 11/08/11 (TODAY): (Start reading from bottom)

BA:

Quote:


Normally this is the sound when the unit powers up cause your turning on the circuit. I do not believe this is going to damaged anything on your system. I have had system that do the exact same things and never had a problem.

Me:

Quote:


It does this only when turned on or off, or when the unit is in standby and I start playing something (effectively turning the unit on).
It does not happen during operation, as far as I know.

It is a fairly noticeable 'THUD' sound, so I don't know if it is a 'small' turn or not - it's relative. If you want I can send you a recording from my iPhone later tonight.

I am worried that there is something wrong with the unit and it will only get worse over time so I would like to get a clear resolution of the issue as soon as possible.

BA:

Quote:


If its a small turn on thump then the unit is ok, does it do this during operation as well or ONLY when turned on or off?

Me:

Quote:


Hello,

I have a MCS-95 speaker system that is still under warranty. Whenever I
turn the sub on or off, or when it comes out of standby, I hear a loud
'thump' sound. Is this normal?

The sub has always had this issue since I bought it. It's not something
that started happening recently. I have read on several forums that this is
a defect with the sub and that others have had to repair or replace because
of this issue.

Please advise.


Any comments?
post #3836 of 4464
^^
Not sure what response you're looking for .... if the BA guy says it's normal and won't issue an RMA, then that's it.
post #3837 of 4464
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Not sure what response you're looking for .... if the BA guy says it's normal and won't issue an RMA, then that's it.

Sorry, I'm new to the forums and don't see a way to create 'conversations' i.e. posts related to a single topic. All replies essentially are independent of other replies.

Any way, this was an addendum to my previous replies to Zardoz04 about popping sound coming from the sub.

I am still confused regarding this. I do hear a pretty loud thud when I switch the sub on/off. BA seem to indicate this is normal. Others on this forum suggest its a defect.
post #3838 of 4464
Hi all, tried searching first but could not find the answer anywhere.

What should I have the crossover set at for the Fronts, Centre and surround speakers?

What about the subs settings and the LFE or LFE + MAIN?
post #3839 of 4464
Just wanna make sure you can watch tv while the receiver is off while connected from a single hdmi to the tv
post #3840 of 4464
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