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post #4441 of 4583
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Originally Posted by b33b View Post

Thanks for the remote recommendations, probably need two of them as my wife usually falls asleep with the remote on her side of the sofa - not that I would do anything like that. At A4L I keep forgetting my goal and start playing the 'for another $30' game.

Just a cautionary note: before buying two Harmony remotes to use on the same setup as you describe, do some reading about how Harmony works. One remote in a system is great. Two will be a headache as the active remote will "remember" which state each component is in, but the "spousal" remote will not have this information and will not function correctly in most circumstances. IOTW, the remotes will not be synched and will not perform as you wish if you alternate using them during one viewing/listening session.
post #4442 of 4583
Hard to imagine life with just one remote but good to know. Thanks.
post #4443 of 4583
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Originally Posted by b33b View Post

Hard to imagine life with just one remote but good to know. Thanks.

You can certainly use two, but it will be much less efficient, ie, extra button presses and some frustration initially as the user learns the "workarounds" necessary. FWIW, the same sync issue occurs if one person uses a Harmony and another person presses buttons on the AVR, TV, etc. It isn't an insurmountable problem, but it really defeats the primary advantage of the Harmony--at least for that session.
post #4444 of 4583
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames View Post

You can certainly use two, but it will be much less efficient, ie, extra button presses and some frustration initially as the user learns the "workarounds" necessary. FWIW, the same sync issue occurs if one person uses a Harmony and another person presses buttons on the AVR, TV, etc. It isn't an insurmountable problem, but it really defeats the primary advantage of the Harmony--at least for that session.

Agreed. However, my wife and I have a pretty good partial solution. The Harmony One primarily stays on my end-table. When I leave the room or go to work, etc., I hand her the H1. We have the satellite remote setup to change volume on the Denon 1611 and it, of course, controls the satellite STB. There's nothing she can do with that remote to get anything out of sync, and it's 90% of her viewing. If she wants to switch to the PS3, XBox 360, or the Seagate media player, then, yes, she'd need the H1. I simply make it my habit to put the phone and the H1 on her end-table when I leave.
post #4445 of 4583
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Originally Posted by krolholio View Post

I'm wondering if anyone might have a quick fix for a remote control/volume issue on my AVR 391 receiver. I've had the unit since early 2011, and the only issue I've had so far (unit would freeze up and not respond to remote or front panel controls and had to unplug from the power source) was been handled by Denon's factory authorized service center last spring. Currently, I am not able to continuously change the volume on the unit from the remote control as I had been able to in the past. To change the volume, you have to depress the volume up or down buttons for every increment you want to change it (VERY tedious!). Everything else on the remote seems to work fine.

Although I am not the only person in our house that has used it, the only instance I can personally reference was that someone had the volume turned way up (probably turned on our TV and ran the audio thru the receiver) and when I turned on the receiver one day the audio was really loud and I manually turned it down on the front panel. Doesn't seem that that should have messed up the remote though. So I'm wondering if there is a setting somewhere that I am missing that I might be able to change volume continuously again on the remote.

Thanks!

Hi krolholio!
Did you find out how to change again the volume in a continuous way? I'm a AVR-1610 Receiver owner ... and I'm "suffering" the same issue ... I've found your post googling and other few ones in different DENON receivers .. but the problem is the same and no one knows about a setting that can fix / change this... Any info about how you fixed (or not) your remote / receiver would be appreciated!
Thanks
Marcos
post #4446 of 4583
I am manually trying to change the db of my speakers. I get it set the way i like it then when i power the unit off it goes back to the settings that it was before. Can anyone help me by telling me why it keeps going back and not staying where i put it.
post #4447 of 4583
What model are you using and are you using the Quick Select buttons as they must be rememorized after resetting the volume?
post #4448 of 4583
avr 391 and no i am not using the quick select
post #4449 of 4583
how do you go by rememorizing
post #4450 of 4583
ok i think i have figured it out will let u know
post #4451 of 4583
i got it thanks
post #4452 of 4583
My AVR-591 is acting oddly. The remote control is not responsive. If I turn the volume down, it sometimes does and sometime does not, for example. I replaced the batteries and tried a harmony with the same result. Also, it started switching inputs all on its own. I was watching a movie on the PS3, and it automatically switched to the radio. The next morning, when I turned it on, all my settings were gone, like the input names, radio presets. I reset the microprocessor, but is still is acting weirdly. Anyone else have this issue?
post #4453 of 4583
This has cropped up on a few owners, so your best bet is to check Denon's website for a repair facility in your local area. If your unit is outside the 2 year warranty, if purchased using a credit card, check with the credit card issuer as they may add a 3rd year for free (Amex will for sure as will some MC/Visa).
post #4454 of 4583
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Originally Posted by jonrichards1974 View Post

My AVR-591 is acting oddly. The remote control is not responsive. If I turn the volume down, it sometimes does and sometime does not, for example. I replaced the batteries and tried a harmony with the same result. Also, it started switching inputs all on its own. I was watching a movie on the PS3, and it automatically switched to the radio. The next morning, when I turned it on, all my settings were gone, like the input names, radio presets. I reset the microprocessor, but is still is acting weirdly. Anyone else have this issue?

I have the issue with the stock remote but with the harmony everything works perfect.
post #4455 of 4583
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Originally Posted by Phil Lawton View Post

well i connected the composite video, but it's not working. I wanted to make sure it wasn't the TV so I hooked up an old DVD player strait to the TV and it works fine. Then I connected the same DVD player to the receiver. The audio gets sent to the receiver, but it looks like the video doesn't make it to the TV (The TV says no signal). I can't imagine that it is the cable since the one between the TV and the receiver is the same one i used between the TV and the DVD player. This is frustrating because when I connect the HDMI to the receiver it seems like it tires to send the signal through that, but the screen just goes black. (but it doesn't say no signal). Its like the receiver is refusing to send a signal to the monitor out.

Is anyone else having this problem? It seems that the video is never being sent from the monitor out. I realize that most people wouldn't want it sent through monitor out, but I have had this receiver for over 3 months and never been able to use the GUI because my TV wont do 480i over HDMI. Could it be that the monitor out is faulty?
post #4456 of 4583
^^
By "monitor out" you mean the composite video monitor out. So you have a composite video cable from the DVD player to the AVR and another composite video cable from the AVR to the TV as there is no video down conversion from HDMI sources? Also ensure whatever source name you are using DVD or SAT/CBL has the input settings set to NONE for HDMI and Component video.
post #4457 of 4583
I have the Denon 1611 avr. I have the avr sub trim set at different levels for the different inputs. The levels remain different from one input to another while the avr is on but when I turn the avr off and back on the trim is the same for all inputs. Example if I place the trim at -8 for tv and +5 for dvd it remains that way but goes back to the tv trim of -8 when I turn avr back on. How can I keep the changes I made without going back to default?
post #4458 of 4583
Try using a Quick Select for each input, making the volume change and the pressing/holding each Quick Select button for a few seconds to memorize the new settings.
post #4459 of 4583
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try using a Quick Select for each input, making the volume change and the pressing/holding each Quick Select button for a few seconds to memorize the new settings.

Unless I am doing it wrong, it still gives me the same settings for all inputs.
post #4460 of 4583
Okay guys this may be a Completely wrong Question/ idea.
I have a 391. Can I draw power from 2 of my outputs (Bridge?) to make it 4 ohms and connect them to a 4 ohm subwoofer. Im not sure if this is possible on a home receiver. Inform me please smile.gif
post #4461 of 4583
No. AVRs are not designed to power "passive" subwoofers.
post #4462 of 4583
Hi all, I am in need of some help as I am trying to do something the Denon 591 is not designed to do. A new multi-zone receiver is not possible right now. I'm new-house broke.

I want to add 2.0 outdoor speakers to my existing 5.1 setup for periodic music listening. What would happen if I ran two pairs of 8-ohm speakers off of the front channels of the 591?

I'm thinking of adding a switch to the front channels so I can turn the A/B on or off. Most of the time would just be A, but sometimes both A and B.

Can anyone provide insight as to what would happen if both were on? And would the receiver "know" when only one was on?

Thanks!
post #4463 of 4583
Thread Starter 
How could the receiver possibly "know" in this situation? It just send out a signal via the speaker terminals.

If you just wire the two speakers up directly, they would be hooked up in "parallel" and would present a combined impedance load to the receiver. For example, if you had two pairs of 8-ohm speakers hooked up, the receiver would be presented with a 4-ohm load. Probably not an issue but could be a problem at higher volumes.

If you added a speaker switch to control the A/B function, there are switches that provide an impedance matching function to avoid this issue. If you google or search on Amazon for this term you will find many options.

All that said.... by the time you factor in the cost and hassle of implementing this solution, you would be better served by simply swapping receivers. I bet you could sell your 591 and find a different Denon with 7 channels that can power Zone 2 for less than a 50 dollar incremental expense -- basically the same as what you would be spending on the speaker selector.

For example, don't know where in Texas you are, but I was able to quickly find the following options in Dallas:

1. Denon AVR-791 for $140: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3745738674.html
2. Denon 1910 for $220 (I would negotiate this price down): http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ele/3740165741.html
3. Another AVR-791 for $195 OBO: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ele/3710981838.html
4. An AVR-1912 for $250: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3764780767.html

In Houston:

1. Denon 2309ci for $135: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3759564734.html
2. Denon 1611 (the same as your 591 but with 7ch and Zone 2), the guy is asking $300 but that is ridiculous, you can point out that Accessories4Less sells the refurb 1612 for $200: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3757483973.html
post #4464 of 4583
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

How could the receiver possibly "know" in this situation? It just send out a signal via the speaker terminals.

If you just wire the two speakers up directly, they would be hooked up in "parallel" and would present a combined impedance load to the receiver. For example, if you had two pairs of 8-ohm speakers hooked up, the receiver would be presented with a 4-ohm load. Probably not an issue but could be a problem at higher volumes.

If you added a speaker switch to control the A/B function, there are switches that provide an impedance matching function to avoid this issue. If you google or search on Amazon for this term you will find many options.

All that said.... by the time you factor in the cost and hassle of implementing this solution, you would be better served by simply swapping receivers. I bet you could sell your 591 and find a different Denon with 7 channels that can power Zone 2 for less than a 50 dollar incremental expense -- basically the same as what you would be spending on the speaker selector.

For example, don't know where in Texas you are, but I was able to quickly find the following options in Dallas:

1. Denon AVR-791 for $140: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3745738674.html
2. Denon 1910 for $220 (I would negotiate this price down): http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ele/3740165741.html
3. Another AVR-791 for $195 OBO: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ele/3710981838.html
4. An AVR-1912 for $250: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3764780767.html

In Houston:

1. Denon 2309ci for $135: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3759564734.html
2. Denon 1611 (the same as your 591 but with 7ch and Zone 2), the guy is asking $300 but that is ridiculous, you can point out that Accessories4Less sells the refurb 1612 for $200: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3757483973.html

I own the Denon 1611 and I agree $300 is too much for an avr that is 3 years old and used. I paid $290 shipped and brand new on Ebay 3 years ago.
post #4465 of 4583
Hey guys quick question for ya. Is there any benefit using an hdmi2wii adaptor over component cables besides a little more mess while hooking up a wii to a 591?
post #4466 of 4583
The Wii2HDMI would upscale the 480i video to either 720p or 1080p depending on the capability of your TV while the 591 would simply pass the 480i signal through as is.
post #4467 of 4583
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

How could the receiver possibly "know" in this situation? It just send out a signal via the speaker terminals.

If you just wire the two speakers up directly, they would be hooked up in "parallel" and would present a combined impedance load to the receiver. For example, if you had two pairs of 8-ohm speakers hooked up, the receiver would be presented with a 4-ohm load. Probably not an issue but could be a problem at higher volumes.

If you added a speaker switch to control the A/B function, there are switches that provide an impedance matching function to avoid this issue. If you google or search on Amazon for this term you will find many options.

All that said.... by the time you factor in the cost and hassle of implementing this solution, you would be better served by simply swapping receivers. I bet you could sell your 591 and find a different Denon with 7 channels that can power Zone 2 for less than a 50 dollar incremental expense -- basically the same as what you would be spending on the speaker selector.

For example, don't know where in Texas you are, but I was able to quickly find the following options in Dallas:

1. Denon AVR-791 for $140: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3745738674.html
2. Denon 1910 for $220 (I would negotiate this price down): http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/ele/3740165741.html
3. Another AVR-791 for $195 OBO: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/ele/3710981838.html
4. An AVR-1912 for $250: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/3764780767.html

In Houston:

1. Denon 2309ci for $135: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3759564734.html
2. Denon 1611 (the same as your 591 but with 7ch and Zone 2), the guy is asking $300 but that is ridiculous, you can point out that Accessories4Less sells the refurb 1612 for $200: http://houston.craigslist.org/ele/3757483973.html

The Denon 2309 is a steal for $135. Funny, the guy advertising it didn't mention it has 4 HDMI inputs.
post #4468 of 4583
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The Wii2HDMI would upscale the 480i video to either 720p or 1080p depending on the capability of your TV while the 591 would simply pass the 480i signal through as is.
Good to know JD thanks.
post #4469 of 4583
Hi, I'm new here. Just got a refurb 591 from accessories4less. I have it hooked up to an LG TV and a Win7 machine. Everything is working great except for one tiny thing. I already know what is going on. I just don't know if there is a fix or workaround. I am having EDID problems. Here is the explanation I found: http://www.creationnetworks.net/hdmi-audio-case-study-denon-av-receivers/

I am fairly certain I saw something about how to compensate for this while I was researching why Flash pushes stereo audio to all speaker channels, but I can't find anything now.
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