Samsung C8000 and Audio Return Channel Problems? - Page 2

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

The challenge I have is that the TV takes about 5-7 seconds for the picture to warm up and come on. As soon as it does, having HDMI Control on the receiver and TV causes the TV to tell the receiver to switch to the TV input. This then moves my receiver off of HDMI 2 (where it needs to be) and over to an AV input on the receiver which is mapped to ARC. However no sound is coming through ARC at that point since its just the STB playing. Yes later if I use Netflix or Vudu it works, but most times I'm just TV watching. This means after the power on sequence I have to manually switch the AVR back to HDMI 2. That's not acceptable so I've given up on ARC unfortunately. Maybe one day they'll be a fix or someone will discover a work around.,..

I do get what you mean. I have the same issue when I shut off the BD player. I'd like the AVR to switch to the STB automatically but it will switch to TV input instead. The STB has HDMI but otherwise there is no CEC compliance so I guess that's why the AVR never switches to the STB even though I pretty much always have it powered on. I do agree that it is annoying but it isn't a dealbreaker. I just switch inputs manually. Perhaps you can try switching off the TV Anynet+? I'm not at home to test out whether this affects the ARC feature.

Yes! This is exactly the step I was missing. I tried it and it works wonderfully. Thank you so much!!



I tried to get the Playstation Media Server (PMS) going because I like that it'll transcode (?) the audio on the fly if it needs to. But I couldn't get it configured. It had nothing to do with the Samsung. Rather, I couldn't get it to see my PS3 (or Samsung either). I installed PC Share Manager and it does the trick.

Question: Is there any way to get the Media Play function on the TV to remember PC Media Share as the default DLNA server? Every time I go into the menu (or maybe its after a power off/on, but still...) it defaults to my USB drive in the TV or Media Player on my PC networks. So I have to press the "A" key and navigate to select "PC Media Share" to find the media I want.

Thanks again!

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

I am using the Samsung apps for Netflix and Vudu. I wanted to use ARC to get the audio from these apps over to the receiver. Unfortunately due to the input switching issue I mentioned I have given up on using ARC and am just feeding the optical out from the Samsung back to the AVR that way. Do you see any downside to this, aside from having to use an extra (optical) cable in the setup?

The challenge I have is that the TV takes about 5-7 seconds for the picture to warm up and come on. As soon as it does, having HDMI Control on the receiver and TV causes the TV to tell the receiver to switch to the TV input. This then moves my receiver off of HDMI 2 (where it needs to be) and over to an AV input on the receiver which is mapped to ARC. However no sound is coming through ARC at that point since its just the STB playing. Yes later if I use Netflix or Vudu it works, but most times I'm just TV watching. This means after the power on sequence I have to manually switch the AVR back to HDMI 2. That's not acceptable so I've given up on ARC unfortunately. Maybe one day they'll be a fix or someone will discover a work around.,..

Originally Posted by Raddle

Did you happen to get a starter kit with your TV? My Samsung BD-C5900 player also has Netflix, Vudu, etc. If you watch movies through this device, you won't need to use ARC. I turned off HDMI-CEC because of the problems you describe.

I never figured out a way around it other than using a very long Harmony remote control sequence every time I turned on the TV.

Originally Posted by Carny_Priest

I don't recall experiencing any sort of memory or default on the choice of media player inputs. If I recall, even if I plug in a USB drive, I still have to select the drive from the list of sources to access the media player. Again, for me, I'm pretty tolerant of the need to use the remote. In fact, I quit using a USB once I installed PCMS. PCMS is the only media player I have installed.

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

Thanks for confirming that its a problem for others as well. What AVR are you using? I am using the Yamaha RX-V667. I am really curious if its the Samsung TV or the Yamaha. I am pretty sure its the fault of the TV, but was wondering if I'd have better results with a different manufacturers AVR. So if you respond that you are using something other than a Yamaha, then we'll know for sure.

Originally Posted by Raddle

Pioneer VSX-32 (same as the VSX-1120)

Originally Posted by Carny_Priest

...PCMS is the only media player I have installed.

Originally Posted by Raddle

That's exactly what happens to me when HDMI-CEC is "on."

To quote cctoenj, "HDMI Control must die!"

Originally Posted by Raddle

I have read many posts of similar complaints. The solution is always to turn off HDMI-CEC. Others who know more than me have stated that the HDMI-CEC specification is not very strict and so there are many opportunities for responses between different manufacturers. IMO, we should not wait for a FW upgrade. I waited for a sale on a Harmony One (or 900) remote, turned off HDMI-CEC and started lurking in the Harmony threads.

Originally Posted by dre1973

By the sounds of it you still have not got this working. I was having the same issue and solved it I think.

Firstly you need to turn all the stuff back on to get the arc working again.
Then select whatever you are watching. Press tools button on tv and there should be a heading sound, click that and where it says PCM try and change it, if there is a dd soundtrack or dts you should be able to change it here, if not then I'm not sure, that's how I got mine to work.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

I need HDMI Control (CEC) enabled on the receiver and on the TV in order to use ARC. However with CEC enabled, when the TV first warms up and picture comes on, it causes the AVR to switch to the TV input, even though no audio is on that input. This causes you to loose the desired source on the receiver (in my case HDMI 2). Therefore you are forced to disable CEC and not use ARC. Does this sum up your situation as well?

Also I wonder if this issue is specific to the Samsung TVs. .

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

Thanks. I'd like to just confirm we are talking about the same exact issue. In my scenario I need HDMI Control (CEC) enabled on the receiver and on the TV in order to use ARC. However with CEC enabled, when the TV first warms up and picture comes on, it causes the AVR to switch to the TV input, even though no audio is on that input. This causes you to loose the desired source on the receiver (in my case HDMI 2). Therefore you are forced to disable CEC and not use ARC. Does this sum up your situation as well?

Also I wonder if this issue is specific to the Samsung TVs. If it is, then we may be able to get Samung to fix this with a firmware update.

Originally Posted by Carny_Priest

What's the point of ARC? For me, it's DD 5.1 OTA as well as DD 5.1 and DTS via the TV's mediashare features. Might be good for the TV's streaming apps as well, but I haven't put it to the test. Here, the source signals are received by the TV and are then routed to the AVR. As opposed to the BD player, Xbox or other component where the sound signal is sent to the AVR and not the TV. Yes, a toslink cable can perform the same function sending the sound signal from TV to AVR, but the ARC feature means one less cable to deal with which is nice.

By the way, I do have the same issues with CEC where the AVR switches to the wrong input. It's kind of a hassle but it doesn't bother me enough to give up the ARC feature.

Originally Posted by lovingdvd

What AVR manufacturer and model are you using please? I am trying to get Samsung to fix the issue and want to gather as much information as I can to provde it is not the AVR but rather a bug with the TV.