or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Recorders › DirecTV "Whole Home" DVR Questions
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

DirecTV "Whole Home" DVR Questions - Page 5

post #121 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by rad View Post

Also recommend getting a HD receiver vs. the SD receiver. After the initial cost the monthly charges would be the same and then you'll be able to view recordings from the HD DVR(s) which the SD receiver can't. Plus the HD versions of channel will look better on a SD set, just make sure that TV has at leaset composite video and analog audio outputs since the HD recivers don't have RF outputs.

I agree with your recommendation....just want to point out that even if he happens to have an older TV with RF input only he can still connect an HD receiver or HD DVR to it via an RF modulator. My bedroom TV is connected this way and the PQ is very good, much better in fact than the R10 DirecTiVo that also feeds that TV (via A/B switch).
post #122 of 240
Hey guys, thanks for your responses. The tv in question does have component connections. So I take it that an HD box would work with the analog tv and also be able to view recorded HD material? The upgrade to an additional HD box is $45.00. My wife is the one who watches that set when she doesn't like what we are watching on the main tv so I'll kick it around with her.
We are getting the WIFI kit for the direct tv cinema at no cost. Would that be all the internet access we need to handle all other functions such as setting the dvr with an I phone?
post #123 of 240
If you get an HD receiver or HD-DVR and hook it up to the old standard def TV it will then be able to watch recordings off the HD-DVR. If you get a standard def box it will not be able to (Whole Home DVR only works between HD receivers, and HD-DVRs). If your old standard def TV has component inputs I would definitely use them. You will most likely be very pleased with the picture quality using an HD-DVR hooked up to an SDTV over component. You can set the HD receiver to either crop or letterbox the HD picture as you see fit.

Yes the WiFi kit will be all you need to get your Whole Home DVR system online and get all the perks of doing so (iPad app, TV apps, On Demand, ordering PPV, etc).

Like the others said though, I would definitely consider getting two HD-DVRs. That would allow you to record up to 4 things at once, or watch two things live while recording two others. This comes in handy a lot if you have multiple people in the house that like different shows. My wife and I actually have 3 HD-DVRs and still run into issues every now and then on Monday nights where we can't watch and record everything we want (luckily her Hoarders, and Intervention shows are repeated a lot so we just record the repeats).

You will be able to access the recordings of each HD-DVR on each other, and on other HD receivers.
post #124 of 240
Are the HDDVR and the HD receiver interchangable? For example, if I have it installed in one of the bedrooms, and the HD receiver in the family room and I decide to swap them, can it be done? Or swap the HD receiver with the non HD receiver, can it be done with no problem?
post #125 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3vino View Post

Are the HDDVR and the HD receiver interchangable? For example, if I have it installed in one of the bedrooms, and the HD receiver in the family room and I decide to swap them, can it be done? Or swap the HD receiver with the non HD receiver, can it be done with no problem?

Do you have one coax cable connecting to the HD DVR or two? If one then you're on SWiM and no problem swapping things around. If you have two coax cable to the HD DVR then you'll lose use of the second tuner in the HD DVR.
post #126 of 240
He is a new customer so he should be on a SWM system. He shouldn't have any issues swapping around an HD receiver and HD DVR.

He does need to be careful if there are other devices hooked up like DECA adapters, the SWM power inserter, etc.
post #127 of 240
The more I research the more questions I have. I understand that I do not need an internet connection for whole home DVR, and that the only reason I would need an internet connection is for on demand content such as Direct TV cinema and so forth.

But I also read on a forum that a wirless connection would not deliver HD content. What confuses me about that is that if I have a Uverse 12 mbps connection, and my gateway 802.11 G does 100 mbps, which is much faster than the internet connection, or so it seems, how could it not deliver HD content wirelessly?
post #128 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3vino View Post

The more I research the more questions I have. I understand that I do not need an internet connection for whole home DVR, and that the only reason I would need an internet connection is for on demand content such as Direct TV cinema and so forth.

But I also read on a forum that a wirless connection would not deliver HD content. What confuses me about that is that if I have a Uverse 12 mbps connection, and my gateway 802.11 G does 100 mbps, which is much faster than the internet connection, or so it seems, how could it not deliver HD content wirelessly?

There's no problem using a wireless connection for the Internet connection since on demand content is not streamed but downloaded to the hard drive for viewing. Where wireless is not recommended is when use for WHDVR/MRV content.
post #129 of 240
Got hooked up for D* on Sunday and it appears everything went pretty well. The tech was not able to hook up the wirless D* cinema adapter. It turns out that it does need to be hard wired to the router, and that wirless means to the boxes and not the internet. Since it would have been a custom wiring job to hook it up, I passed on it. I didn't think I needed it anyway. I do have a bunch of other services I can go to using my Blue Ray player. However, the only service I'm paying for is Netflix.
post #130 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3vino View Post

Got hooked up for D* on Sunday and it appears everything went pretty well. The tech was not able to hook up the wirless D* cinema adapter. It turns out that it does need to be hard wired to the router, and that wirless means to the boxes and not the internet. Since it would have been a custom wiring job to hook it up, I passed on it. I didn't think I needed it anyway. I do have a bunch of other services I can go to using my Blue Ray player. However, the only service I'm paying for is Netflix.

The "tech" didn't know what he was doing.
I have the wireless CCK, which connects with a coax to the receiver network and wirelessly to my router.
post #131 of 240
Yep, like VOS said the tech was wrong. The wireless CCK hooks up to the coax cable near one of your receivers and then gets online using your existing wireless network (I believe someone figured out that your password has to use all upper case letters if you are having a hard time getting it to connect).

If the tech didn't leave the Wireless kit you should call DirecTV and try to get them to send you one for free. If they won't do it I believe you can buy one pretty reasonably from DirecTV and we can help you hook it up yourself.
post #132 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerstalker View Post

Yep, like VOS said the tech was wrong. The wireless CCK hooks up to the coax cable near one of your receivers and then gets online using your existing wireless network (I believe someone figured out that your password has to use all upper case letters if you are having a hard time getting it to connect).

If the tech didn't leave the Wireless kit you should call DirecTV and try to get them to send you one for free. If they won't do it I believe you can buy one pretty reasonably from DirecTV and we can help you hook it up yourself.

Thanks. It looks like the tech was wrong. Based on the research I've done, there are three ways to connect. One is to connect the coax from the wall to the dcck and a supplied coax from the dcck to the receiver. Another uses an ethernet cable to the receiver. Another one uses an adapter and seems a little more complicated. None shows an ethernet wire connected to the router.

Which is the one that would be the best way to connect? If it seems simple enough, I'll give direct tv a call.
post #133 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3vino View Post

Thanks. It looks like the tech was wrong. Based on the research I've done, there are three ways to connect. One is to connect the coax from the wall to the dcck and a supplied coax from the dcck to the receiver. Another uses an ethernet cable to the receiver. Another one uses an adapter and seems a little more complicated. None shows an ethernet wire connected to the router.

Which is the one that would be the best way to connect? If it seems simple enough, I'll give direct tv a call.

Which is "best" depends on your receiver.

If you have an H/HR24/25 this is a good way:


If you have an earlier receiver [without internal DECA] then this will work:


If you already have a white DECA then:

With this you can use the CCK ethernet jack for other devices
post #134 of 240
I have an H25 and an HR24. The connection looks simple. Other than using it for D* Cinema and ordering pay per view, what advantages are there to hooking it up?
post #135 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by n3vino View Post

I have an H25 and an HR24. The connection looks simple. Other than using it for D* Cinema and ordering pay per view, what advantages are there to hooking it up?

That's probably the major thing. TVApps, DirecTV2PC, & the smart phone apps are a few others.
post #136 of 240
For those wanting to take your recordings "on the road", NOMAD is coming:
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=197046
post #137 of 240
I just saw a commercial for free "whole home DVR". Does anybody know if that includes existing customers or if it's just a special for new subscribers? I've been quoted $250 to have "whole home DVR" installed a few months ago, and I think that's ridiculous (on top of the $3 a month.... which I don't necessarily mind).
post #138 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfyncsu7 View Post

I just saw a commercial for free "whole home DVR". Does anybody know if that includes existing customers or if it's just a special for new subscribers? I've been quoted $250 to have "whole home DVR" installed a few months ago, and I think that's ridiculous (on top of the $3 a month.... which I don't necessarily mind).

Quote:


Does anybody know

"no but", it sounds like being "free with a new install".
post #139 of 240
Alright guys, I've been lurking as a guest for a while. Just had some questions. I currently only have an HR22-100 in my condo, but I am buying a new house (moving in next month) and am planning on a new setup. For reference, my initial installation was NOT a SWiM, but I added the SWiM LNB and associated equipment after the fact because I didn't want them drilling holes all over a rental.

In my new house, I was thinking of adding another DVR (HR24), and then adding 3 or 4 more H24/H25 HD receivers. Here are my questions:
  1. If I am reading correctly, the only box that will need a DECA adapter is my old HR22, correct?
  2. Any chance I could get D* to upgrade my HR22 to an HR24?
  3. Does D* ever give you a deal on more receivers when you do a move?
  4. How about hooking up to the wireless router? What is the cleanest way to do this? I have seen the wired broadband connection kit (DECABB1R0) and the wireless one (CCK-W) but I have heard the wireless is not suitable for a WHDVR service - any truth to that? Just looking for the cleanest way to tie this into my home network.
  5. I have DSL so a phone jack is what dictates where my router will sit. At this time, I am not sure if there is a coax port in close proximity to a phone line. Thus, the wireless route is most attractive to me but if it ain't gonna cut the mustard, then I guess I go the wired route. Worst-case scenario, I could get some powerline adapters to run the wired ethernet over to the DECABB1R0 or the normal DECA adapter.
  6. Okay, honestly, I don't really understand the purpose of DECABB1R0 or the CCK-W at all. Will they serve to bridge the ethernet connection onto the coax like a normal DECA adapter or no? I guess I need a little explanation on how they work...
  7. Any other equipment I am going to need to get?

Thanks in advance!
post #140 of 240
1) yes
2) & 3):shrug:
4, 5, & 6) Wireless bridges to your home network for internet, and works fine, since this leg isn't normally streaming HD through MRV. The Wireless has a pass through mode so they can be installed inline on the coax feeding a receiver.
post #141 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by veryoldschool View Post

1) yes
2) & 3):shrug:
4, 5, & 6) Wireless bridges to your home network for internet, and works fine, since this leg isn't normally streaming HD through MRV. The Wireless has a pass through mode so they can be installed inline on the coax feeding a receiver.

So for my application, the CCK-W should work fine? I think I get what you are saying. With a SWM install, the MRV isn't being passed through the wireless, it is still stacked on the coax via DECA. The wireless is only for D* Cinema and other internet-related functions. Is that a correct interpretation?

If that's the case, I think I will go that route and see what I can finagle D* out of in the way of receivers. I think I have fulfilled my 2-year agreement so maybe I can use that as leverage. Its frustrating how much better new customers are treated compared to loyal existing subscribers.

Oh thought of another couple questions. With this, I still need the power inserter for the SWM LNB, correct? I currently have the PI behind my HR22, so on which side of the CCK-W would it go - LNB side or receiver side? Or does it matter?

Lastly, does the CCK-W eliminate the need for a DECA power inserter?
post #142 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by LipschitzWrath View Post

So for my application, the CCK-W should work fine? I think I get what you are saying. With a SWM install, the MRV isn't being passed through the wireless, it is still stacked on the coax via DECA. The wireless is only for D* Cinema and other internet-related functions. Is that a correct interpretation?

If that's the case, I think I will go that route and see what I can finagle D* out of in the way of receivers. I think I have fulfilled my 2-year agreement so maybe I can use that as leverage. Its frustrating how much better new customers are treated compared to loyal existing subscribers.

Oh thought of another couple questions. With this, I still need the power inserter for the SWM LNB, correct? I currently have the PI behind my HR22, so on which side of the CCK-W would it go - LNB side or receiver side? Or does it matter?

Lastly, does the CCK-W eliminate the need for a DECA power inserter?

Yes, yes, and I wouldn't run 21 volts through my wireless CCK.
The CCK-W has it's own power cord.
post #143 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by veryoldschool View Post

Yes, yes, and I wouldn't run 21 volts through my wireless CCK.
The CCK-W has it's own power cord.

Sorry to be a PITA. So if I use the CCK-W, I will need no other power inserters in the entire system, save for the one I already have in the system for the SWM LNB?

I doubt directv is gonna cut me any deals so I will probably just install the system myself. Is D* currently shipping H25's or are they still passing out H24's? I want the H25 for my entertainment room as I can hide everything behind a wall mounted 52" Sony and have a super clean install.

Oh, and thanks a ton for all of the help!
post #144 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by LipschitzWrath View Post

Sorry to be a PITA. So if I use the CCK-W, I will need no other power inserters in the entire system, save for the one I already have in the system for the SWM LNB?

The only "other" power inserter would be for a DECA, and any DECA not powered by the receiver, will have its own power cord.
Quote:


I doubt directv is gonna cut me any deals so I will probably just install the system myself. Is D* currently shipping H25's or are they still passing out H24's? I want the H25 for my entertainment room as I can hide everything behind a wall mounted 52" Sony and have a super clean install.

Oh, and thanks a ton for all of the help!

H25s are only installed on new installs, but you can get them from retailers along with the wall mount and make sure to get the RF adapter too.
post #145 of 240
Im thinking about switching to direct tv. I want to go with the whole home dvr. I plan on doing some reading up. are most people happy with the whole home dvr? and does anyone have any ideas for putting a receiver in a room where you dont have a good space for one. my kitchen tv is wall mounted ( flush ) with no spot for a receiver. thanks , chris
post #146 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by slow ride View Post

Im thinking about switching to direct tv. I want to go with the whole home dvr. I plan on doing some reading up. are most people happy with the whole home dvr? and does anyone have any ideas for putting a receiver in a room where you dont have a good space for one. my kitchen tv is wall mounted ( flush ) with no spot for a receiver. thanks , chris

The HD receivers you would use with Whole Home are RF capable. You can tuck it inside the cabinet with the TV. Or someplace else nearby and jsut run the cables to the TV.
post #147 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by slow ride View Post

Im thinking about switching to direct tv. I want to go with the whole home dvr. I plan on doing some reading up. are most people happy with the whole home dvr? and does anyone have any ideas for putting a receiver in a room where you dont have a good space for one. my kitchen tv is wall mounted ( flush ) with no spot for a receiver. thanks , chris

Could you fit a H25 receiver behind it with a wall mount? See http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=189568 for some info on it.
post #148 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by rad View Post

Could you fit a H25 receiver behind it with a wall mount? See http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=189568 for some info on it.

thanks for the link. I just read it. sounds like thats the way to go. couple questions. how far from the tv can the h25 be & can it be completely hidden. but more likely though, is there a way to mount it behind a flat screen. thanks
post #149 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by slow ride View Post

thanks for the link. I just read it. sounds like thats the way to go. couple questions. how far from the tv can the h25 be & can it be completely hidden. but more likely though, is there a way to mount it behind a flat screen. thanks

How long a HDMI cable to you want to run, I think that would be the limiting factor. Here's a link for the wall mount kit, http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...he-H25-(H25MNT) see if that leaves you enough room. Here's also a link for the H25's RF remote kit, http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...ce=google_base although you might want to see if the IR will work well enough first.
post #150 of 240
Quote:
Originally Posted by rad View Post

How long a HDMI cable to you want to run, I think that would be the limiting factor. Here's a link for the wall mount kit, http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...he-H25-(H25MNT) see if that leaves you enough room. Here's also a link for the H25's RF remote kit, http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...ce=google_base although you might want to see if the IR will work well enough first.

do the installers have these kits on the truck or should I request them before ordering?

Im kind of on the fence between dish and there dual room receiver & directs whole home dvr. do you have any insight between the two. thanks again, chris
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HDTV Recorders
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Recorders › DirecTV "Whole Home" DVR Questions