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First HDMI 1.4 EDID Report

post #1 of 19
6/2/10 at 8:39am
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Finally I received EDID report for HDMI 1.4 In in newest 3D LCD TV LE40C750R2W
Code:
Model name............... SAMSUNG
  Manufacturer............. Samsung
  Plug and Play ID......... SAM069B
  Serial number............ 1
  Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 51
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  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 890 x 500 mm (40,2 in)
  Power management......... Not supported
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... Not supported
 
Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,20
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,640 - Ry 0,330
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,300 - Gy 0,600
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,060
  White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
  Additional descriptors... None
 
Timing characteristics
  Horizontal scan range.... 26-81kHz
  Vertical scan range...... 24-75Hz
  Video bandwidth.......... 230MHz
  CVT standard............. Not supported
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #1....... 1360x768p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1360x768" 85,500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync
 
Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  67Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  72Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
     832 x  624p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
    1152 x  870p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1152 x  864p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  800p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x  960p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x  900p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1440 x  900p at  75Hz - VESA STD
    1680 x 1050p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
 
EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  DTV underscan............ Supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported
  Native formats........... 1
  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
  Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080i at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
 
CE video data (timings supported)
    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    1920 x 1080p at  30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001
 
CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz
 
CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 2.0
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ No
  Front center............. No
  Rear left/right.......... No
  Rear center.............. No
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... No
  Rear LFE................. No
 
CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 0.2.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... Yes
  Supports 30bpp........... Yes
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
  Data payload............. 20D0040140073F
 
Report information
  Date generated........... 02.06.2010
  Software revision........ 2.51.0.853
  Operating system......... 6.0.6002.2.Service Pack 2
 
Raw data
  00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,4C,2D,9B,06,01,00,00,00,33,13,01,03,80,59,32,78,0A,EE,91,A3,54,4C,99,26,
  0F,50,54,BD,EF,80,71,4F,81,00,81,40,81,80,95,00,95,0F,B3,00,A9,40,02,3A,80,18,71,38,2D,40,58,2C,
  45,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,66,21,50,B0,51,00,1B,30,40,70,36,00,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,00,00,00,FD,00,18,
  4B,1A,51,17,00,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FC,00,53,41,4D,53,55,4E,47,0A,20,20,20,20,20,01,7F,
  02,03,2E,F1,4B,90,1F,04,13,05,14,03,12,20,21,22,23,09,07,07,83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,6E,
  03,0C,00,20,00,B8,2D,20,D0,04,01,40,07,3F,02,3A,80,D0,72,38,2D,40,10,2C,45,80,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,
  01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D,80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80,A0,5A,
  00,00,00,9E,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,74
As you may see most interesting info isn't decode
Data payload............. 20D0040140073F

Is anybody knows program for more full decoding in comparison with moninfo ? http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm
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post #2 of 19
6/2/10 at 11:03am
The VSDB must be decoded by hand. I don't have the time now, I'll do it tomorrow and I'll post the results.
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post #3 of 19
6/2/10 at 11:24am
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Ok, waiting your results
Thanks in advance

For all - Some extraction from HDMI 1.4 specs including 3D E-EDID description

 

2010_03_04_3DExtraction_HDMI_Spec1.4a.pdf 388.25390625k . file
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post #4 of 19
6/2/10 at 1:49pm
I wrote my own little EDID parser, here is the printout from a Samsung 3D TV, firmware 1019.1. You can use that to verify your parsing.

Your parser has a problem with at least the HDMI physical address, it should be 2.0.0.0, not 0.2.0.0 on the "HDMI2" input.

Samsung UN40C7000WFXZA V.1019.1

Code:
EDID[0][00]: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00
EDID[0][08]: 4C 2D AC 06 01 00 00 00
EDID[0][10]: 34 13 01 03 80 59 32 78
EDID[0][18]: 0A EE 91 A3 54 4C 99 26
EDID[0][20]: 0F 50 54 BD EF 80 71 4F
EDID[0][28]: 81 00 81 40 81 80 95 00
EDID[0][30]: 95 0F B3 00 A9 40 02 3A
EDID[0][38]: 80 18 71 38 2D 40 58 2C
EDID[0][40]: 45 00 A0 5A 00 00 00 1E
EDID[0][48]: 66 21 50 B0 51 00 1B 30
EDID[0][50]: 40 70 36 00 A0 5A 00 00
EDID[0][58]: 00 1E 00 00 00 FD 00 18
EDID[0][60]: 4B 1A 51 17 00 0A 20 20
EDID[0][68]: 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC
EDID[0][70]: 00 53 41 4D 53 55 4E 47
EDID[0][78]: 0A 20 20 20 20 20 01 6D
EDID[1][00]: 02 03 29 F1 46 90 04 05
EDID[1][08]: 03 20 22 23 09 07 07 83
EDID[1][10]: 01 00 00 E2 00 0F E3 05
EDID[1][18]: 03 01 6E 03 0C 00 10 00
EDID[1][20]: B8 2D 20 D0 04 01 40 00
EDID[1][28]: 37 01 1D 00 72 51 D0 1E
EDID[1][30]: 20 6E 28 55 00 A0 5A 00
EDID[1][38]: 00 00 1E 01 1D 80 18 71
EDID[1][40]: 1C 16 20 58 2C 25 00 A0
EDID[1][48]: 5A 00 00 00 9E 8C 0A D0
EDID[1][50]: 8A 20 E0 2D 10 10 3E 96
EDID[1][58]: 00 A0 5A 00 00 00 18 00
EDID[1][60]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
EDID[1][68]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
EDID[1][70]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
EDID[1][78]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 75

[EDID] The first DTD of 5 is native

******************************************
Displaying EDID Version.Revision 1.3
******************************************
Header 00 ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 - OK
Vendor: SAM (Samsung), Product: 0x06AC, Serial#: 0x00000001, 52/2009
Display - Input Definition: 0x80, Digital,
  Non-VESA-DFP profile,
  Size: 890 by 500 mm, Gamma: 2.20,
  Features: No Standby, No Suspend, No Active Off,
  RGB Display, No sRGB, Preferred Timing, No GTF
Color Characteristics:
  Red   x=0.640 y=0.330
  Green x=0.300 y=0.600
  Blue  x=0.150 y=0.060
  White x=0.313 y=0.329
Established timings: 0xBD, 0xEF, 0x80
  720 x 400 @ 70Hz IBM, VGA
  640 x 480 @ 60Hz IBM, VGA
  640 x 480 @ 67Hz Apple, Mac II
  640 x 480 @ 72Hz VESA
  640 x 480 @ 75Hz VESA
  800 x 600 @ 60Hz VESA
  800 x 600 @ 72Hz VESA
  800 x 600 @ 75Hz VESA
  832 x 624 @ 75Hz Apple, Mac II
  1024 x 768 @ 60Hz VESA
  1024 x 768 @ 70Hz VESA
  1024 x 768 @ 75Hz VESA
  1280 x 1024 @ 75Hz VESA
  1152 x 870 @ 75Hz Apple, Mac II
Standard timing 1: 0x71 0x4F, 1152x864, 4:3, 75 Hz
Standard timing 2: 0x81 0x00, 1280x800, 16:10, 60 Hz
Standard timing 3: 0x81 0x40, 1280x960, 4:3, 60 Hz
Standard timing 4: 0x81 0x80, 1280x1024, 5:4, 60 Hz
Standard timing 5: 0x95 0x00, 1440x900, 16:10, 60 Hz
Standard timing 6: 0x95 0x0F, 1440x900, 16:10, 75 Hz
Standard timing 7: 0xB3 0x00, 1680x1050, 16:10, 60 Hz
Standard timing 8: 0xA9 0x40, 1600x1200, 4:3, 60 Hz
Number of 128 bytes EDID Extension blocks: 1

******************************************
Monitor Name - Name: "SAMSUNG"
Monitor Range Limits - Vert. 24-75 Hz, Hor. 26-81 kHz, PixClk up to 230 MHz
******************************************

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Detailed timing descriptor 1 (Preferred)
Resolution: 1920x1080p (59.94Hz)
Pixel Clock: 148.351Mhz
Image size: Hor 160 mm x Vert 90 mm
Horizontal: Border: 0 pixels, Sync Offset: 88 pixels, Sync Pulse Width: 44 pixels (Total Blanking = 280)
Vertical: Border: 0 lines, Sync Offset: 4 lines, Sync Pulse Width: 5 lines (Total Blanking = 45)
Stereoscopic: No Stereo, Digital Separate Sync, VSync Negative, HSync Negative
******************************************

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Detailed timing descriptor 2
Resolution: 1360x768p (60.01Hz)
Pixel Clock: 85.500Mhz
Image size: Hor 160 mm x Vert 90 mm
Horizontal: Border: 0 pixels, Sync Offset: 64 pixels, Sync Pulse Width: 112 pixels (Total Blanking = 432)
Vertical: Border: 0 lines, Sync Offset: 3 lines, Sync Pulse Width: 6 lines (Total Blanking = 27)
Stereoscopic: No Stereo, Digital Separate Sync, VSync Negative, HSync Negative
******************************************

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Detailed timing descriptor 3
Resolution: 1280x720p (59.94Hz)
Pixel Clock: 74.175Mhz
Image size: Hor 160 mm x Vert 90 mm
Horizontal: Border: 0 pixels, Sync Offset: 110 pixels, Sync Pulse Width: 40 pixels (Total Blanking = 370)
Vertical: Border: 0 lines, Sync Offset: 5 lines, Sync Pulse Width: 5 lines (Total Blanking = 30)
Stereoscopic: No Stereo, Digital Separate Sync, VSync Negative, HSync Negative
******************************************

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Detailed timing descriptor 4
Resolution: 1920x1080i (59.94Hz)
Pixel Clock: 74.175Mhz
Image size: Hor 160 mm x Vert 90 mm
Horizontal: Border: 0 pixels, Sync Offset: 88 pixels, Sync Pulse Width: 44 pixels (Total Blanking = 280)
Vertical: Border: 0 lines, Sync Offset: 2 lines, Sync Pulse Width: 5 lines (Total Blanking = 22)
Stereoscopic: No Stereo, Digital Separate Sync, VSync Negative, HSync Negative
******************************************

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Detailed timing descriptor 5
Resolution: 720x480p (59.94Hz)
Pixel Clock: 27.000Mhz
Image size: Hor 160 mm x Vert 90 mm
Horizontal: Border: 0 pixels, Sync Offset: 16 pixels, Sync Pulse Width: 62 pixels (Total Blanking = 138)
Vertical: Border: 0 lines, Sync Offset: 9 lines, Sync Pulse Width: 6 lines (Total Blanking = 45)
Stereoscopic: No Stereo, Digital Separate Sync, VSync Positive, HSync Positive
******************************************

******************************************
******* CEA Data Block collection ********
******************************************
Version: 3
BasicTVSupport: 0xF1 (underscan=1, basicaudio=1, yuv444=1, yuv422=1)
SpeakerConfigurationCode: 0x01 0x00 0x00
HDMI_sink: 1
HDMI_PhysAddr: 1.0.0.0
SinkCapability: 0xB8 (AI=1, DC48=0, DC36=1, DC30=1, DC444=1, DVIDual=0
MaxTMDSClock: 225 MHz
No Latency data present.
HDMI Video information present.
Display does not support any IT content types.
Number of HDMI 1.4 VICs: 0
3D Present: yes, 3D Multi: Struct and Mask, VESA Image Size: Rounded to 1 cm, Number of 3D Structure bytes: 4
  0x01  0x40  0x00  0x37
Supports 3D structure: Top and Bottom
Supports 3D structure: Side by Side (Half) with Horizontal Sub-Sampling
VIC #0 (16, 1920x1080p 59.94/60Hz (16:9)) supported in 3D
VIC #1 (4, 1280x720p 59.94/60Hz (16:9)) supported in 3D
VIC #2 (5, 1920x1080i 59.94/60Hz (16:9)) supported in 3D
VIC #4 (32, 1920x1080p 23.97/24Hz (16:9)) supported in 3D
VIC #5 (34, 1920x1080p 29.97/30Hz (16:9)) supported in 3D
ColorimetrySupport: 0x03 (xvYCC601=1, xvYCC709=1)
MetaDataProfile: 0x01
VideoCapability: 0x0F (CE over=1, under=1, IT over=1, under=1, PT over=0, under=0, AVI-Q=0)
******************************************
Number of audio descriptors: 1
 1: Format #1 Linear PCM, up to 2 channels, fs:32/44.1/48 kHz, 16/20/24 bit
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Number of short video descriptors: 6
 1: VIC 16 - 1920x1080p 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - Native
 2: VIC  4 - 1280x720p 59.94/60Hz (16:9)
 3: VIC  5 - 1920x1080i 59.94/60Hz (16:9)
 4: VIC  3 - 720x480p 59.94/60Hz (16:9)
 5: VIC 32 - 1920x1080p 23.97/24Hz (16:9)
 6: VIC 34 - 1920x1080p 29.97/30Hz (16:9)
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post #5 of 19
6/2/10 at 6:36pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scarabaeus View Post

I wrote my own little EDID parser, here is the printout from a Samsung 3D TV, firmware 1019.1. You can use that to verify your parsing.

Your parser has a problem with at least the HDMI physical address, it should be 2.0.0.0, not 0.2.0.0 on the "HDMI2" input.

Thanks for your report.

No problem with HDMI address - it's standard for Ã*ny Sink HDMI, as TV
You may check hundreds reports http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:14612-2#1 in my russian thread http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:14612

Are you able to use my Raw Data for your parser?
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post #6 of 19
6/3/10 at 1:48am
Ok, I decoded the CEA extension:
02,03,2E,F1,4B,90,1F,04,13,05,14,03,12,20,21,22,23,09,07,07, 83,01,00,00,E2,00,0F,E3,05,03,01,6E,
03,0C,00,20,00,B8,2D,20,D0,04,01,40,07,3F*,02,3A,80,D0,72,38 ,2D,40,10,2C,45,80,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,
01,1D,00,BC,52,D0,1E,20,B8,28,55,40,A0,5A,00,00,00,1E,01,1D, 80,D0,72,1C,16,20,10,2C,25,80,A0,5A,
00,00,00,9E,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,74

02: CEA-861 EDID Extension
03: Version number
2E: d = 46 ; DBC = Data Block Collection (video, audio, vendor, ) is from 4 to 45
F1: Basic discovery information (listed by Moninfo)

4B: Video: 11 bytes: 90,1F,04,13,05,14,03,12,20,21,22 (these are the VICs supported, listed as CE Video data by Moninfo)
23: Audio: 3 bytes: 09,07,07 (Audio data listed by Moninfo)
83: Speaker: 3 bytes: 01,00,00 (Speaker allocation data listed by Moninfo)
E2: type 111: 2 bytes: 00,0F: I don't know what is type 111
E3: type 111: 3 bytes: 05,03,01: I don't know what is type 111

6E: VSDB(Vendor Specific Data Block): 14 bytes: 03,0C,00,20,00,B8,2D,20,D0,04,01,40,07,3F
03 0C 00: Vendor is HDMI
20 00: A=2 B=0 C=0 D=0: 2.0.0.0: CEC physical address (Moninfo reports 0.2.0.0, it must be a bug)
B8: features supported (listed by Moninfo)
2D: 45 * 5 = 225 MHz (TMDS clock)

What Moninfo calls Data Payload: 20 D0 04 01 40 07 3F
20: no video/audio latency fields; additional video formats present;
D0: 3D mandatory formats are present; 3D structure and 3D mask are both present; sizes are rounded to nearest 1 cm
04: total length of following 3D video formats = 4 bytes
01 40: 3D structure (3D video formats supported in general):
- Side-by-Side Half - Horizontal sub-sampling
- Top-and-Bottom
07 3F: 3D Mask (specific VICs for which 3D video formats listed in 3D Structure are supported):
- VIC 01: 90: 1920x1080p @ 59.94/60Hz (Native)
- VIC 02: 1F: 1920x1080p @ 50Hz
- VIC 03: 04: 1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz
- VIC 04: 13: 1280x720p @ 50Hz
- VIC 05: 05: 1920x1080i @ 59.94/60Hz
- VIC 06: 14: 1920x1080i @ 50Hz
- VIC 09: 20: 1920x1080p @ 23.98/24Hz
- VIC 10: 21: 1920x1080p @ 25Hz
- VIC 11: 22: 1920x1080p @ 29.97/30Hz

In practice, the display supports all CE formats listed by Moninfo in 3D with Frame Packing (because is mandatory) and in Side-by-Side half an Top-and-Bottom (specified in 3D structure), except:
- 720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz
- 720x576p @ 50Hz

You can't see 3D in standard resolution. It seems also that the TV is perfectly balanced bewteen NTSC and PAL lands, because for each 60Hz format there is a 50Hz format.

Because SbS and TaB are listed as non manadatory formats, it seems the EDID is an HDMI 1.4 one. In 1.4a it should not be necessary to list them in 3D structure, because they are manadatory. But I am not sure, it is possible that these formats are always listed in 3D structure to avoid misunderstanding.
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post #7 of 19
6/3/10 at 1:55am
Comparing the Mikl1984 EDID to the Scarabaeus one, the latter lacks of the 50Hz timings. It must be a difference between NTSC and PAL lands.
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post #8 of 19
6/3/10 at 7:57am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike5 View Post

Because SbS and TaB are listed as non manadatory formats, it seems the EDID is an HDMI 1.4 one. In 1.4a it should not be necessary to list them in 3D structure, because they are manadatory. But I am not sure, it is possible that these formats are always listed in 3D structure to avoid misunderstanding.

The formats are listed as "additional", not "non mandatory". The EDID is 1.4a, since 1.4 did not know TnB, yet. This, and the fact that the EDID has both 50 and 60 Hz modes, means that the general "3D present" info includes support for FramePacking 1080p24, 720p50 and 720p60, SbS 1080i50 and 1080i60, and TnB 1080p24, 720p50 and 720p60.

The SbS and TnB formats are then reiterated, and expanded to all the listed HD formats.
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post #9 of 19
6/3/10 at 11:12am
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike5 View Post

E2: type 111: 2 bytes: 00,0F: I don't know what is type 111
E3: type 111: 3 bytes: 05,03,01: I don't know what is type 111

First of all thanks a lot for your time!

Those bytes should be responsible for such lines in report of scarabaeus
ColorimetrySupport: 0x03 (xvYCC601=1, xvYCC709=1)
MetaDataProfile: 0x01
VideoCapability: 0x0F (CE over=1, under=1, IT over=1, under=1, PT over=0, under=0, AVI-Q=0)
What's they mean? I khew only ColorimetrySupport

Anybody has full HDMI 1.4a specs?
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post #10 of 19
6/3/10 at 11:30am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikl1984 View Post

Anybody has full HDMI 1.4a specs?

This is not part of HDMI 1.4a, only the HDMI VSDB inside the CEA extension is.

You can get the CEA 861 standard here:
http://ce.org/Standards/browseByCommittee_2641.asp

This is a bit schizophrenic about the HDMI and CEA standards. The HDMI specification defines the data path, and the CEA spec defines the video timings, info frames and EDID extensions used over this data path. Now, with the 3D additions, HDMI went ahead and plopped their own timing variations (e.g. frame packing, 4K) and data block extensions (VSIs and VSDBs) on top of the CEA stuff. That's why all the 3D stuff is wrapped inside these vendor-specific extension (owned by HDMI) inside the CEA structures.

I'm not sure what went on between these two standardisation organisations, but this could have been much better coordinated and integrated into the CEA spec.
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post #11 of 19
6/3/10 at 12:17pm
Thread Starter 
Are you able to PM me CEA-861-E specs with me w/o distributing?
Honestly it's hobby for me and pay couple hundreds bucks not so interesting
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post #12 of 19
6/3/10 at 1:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikl1984 View Post

Are you able to PM me CEA-861-E specs with me w/o distributing?
Honestly it's hobby for me and pay couple hundreds bucks not so interesting

Sorry, no, I can't do that.
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post #13 of 19
6/3/10 at 10:31pm
Thread Starter 
Ok
Are you able to comment following lines from your report
MetaDataProfile: 0x01
VideoCapability: 0x0F (CE over=1, under=1, IT over=1, under=1, PT over=0, under=0, AVI-Q=0)
What's it mean?
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post #14 of 19
6/4/10 at 6:40pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by scarabaeus View Post

Sorry, no, I can't do that.


From GoldenEye (1995)

Boris Grishenko: [after hacking into an FBI database and blocking their trace scan] Better luck next time... Slugheads!

I am invincible!
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post #15 of 19
6/5/10 at 5:15pm
Yeah, dude, sorry. I work in the industry, and there's NDAs, and lawyers, and whatnot, and I'm just an engineer, so I don't meddle with that stuff. You're on your own. Either pay or look elsewhere.
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post #16 of 19
6/14/10 at 8:32am
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On my request http://forums.entechtaiwan.com/index.php?topic=7441 Entech made new version Moninfo
Software revision........ 2.52.0.857
Now it decodes all

Most interesting staff:
CE video capability data
CE scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
IT scan behavior......... Supports overscan and underscan
PT scan behavior......... Not supported
RGB quantization range... Not supported
YCC quantization range... Not supported

CE colorimetry data
xvYCC709 support......... Yes
xvYCC601 support......... Yes
sYCC601 support.......... No
AdobeYCC601 support...... No
AdobeRGB support......... No
Metadata profile flags... 0x01

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
CEC physical address..... 2.0.0.0
Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
Supports 48bpp........... No
Supports 36bpp........... Yes
Supports 30bpp........... Yes
Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... Yes
Supports dual-link DVI... No
Maximum TMDS clock....... 225MHz
Audio/video latency (p).. n/a
Audio/video latency (i).. n/a
HDMI video capabilities.. Yes
EDID screen size......... Rounded to nearest cm
3D structures supported.. Top-and-bottom, Side-by-side w. horizontal sub-sampling
3D formats supported..... Mandatory formats plus some primary VICs
1920 x 1080p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]
1920 x 1080p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1280 x 720p at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920 x 1080p at 30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

Waiting reports from other 3D TV for comparison
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post #17 of 19
6/27/10 at 4:38am
PlayStation 3's frame-packing consists of two 1280x720 images top and bottom with 30 lines of a flat colour (black I think) between them, giving 1280x1470 at 59.94Hz. I don't see any reference to this directly in the EDID.

Any idea why? Is it simply supported by default with mention of "side-by-side" and "top and bottom" and from there actual specs are derived from the HDMI 1.4 standard...?
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post #18 of 19
6/27/10 at 6:21am
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Originally Posted by Mike5 View Post

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What Moninfo calls Data Payload: 20 D0 04 01 40 07 3F
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D0: 3D mandatory formats are present; 3D structure and 3D mask are both present; sizes are rounded to nearest 1 cm

D0 is the byte where the EDID says that the mandatory 3D formats (including Frame Packing 720p@59,94/60Hz) are suppported.
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post #19 of 19
10/4/11 at 12:52am
Hi everyone
I writing a program that recognize if the EDID is a DVI / HDMI
And I want to ask how can I do it?
I know that If I have 1 block it's for sure a DVI EDID
But If I get 2 block ( block0 & block1) how can I know if it's HDMI or DVI EDID
Thanks roei atias
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