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post #4531 of 4995
^^^

no, speaker settings are global...

why do you want to do what you want to do?

fwiw, when you set them to "large", you are defeating the xover...
post #4532 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

no, speaker settings are global...

why do you want to do what you want to do?

fwiw, when you set them to "large", you are defeating the xover...


I see and understand the benefits of SMALL/80Hz crossover setting, just thought that leaving my two fronts to LARGE with lower crossover would fit better my ORCHESTRAL music collection that I somehow started to enjoy lately..
that´s the only reason, though
post #4533 of 4995
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very unlikely... the rules of acoustics don't change simply because of the source played... and again, once you set the speaker to "large", you defeat the xover... you aren't crossing at all then, you are feeding the mains the full range signal...

fwiw, i'm almost exclusively a classical listener, and i have mains that have proven in-room response well down into the 30's... i cross them at 80...

the a/v gods invented subwoofers for a reason...
post #4534 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

very unlikely... the rules of acoustics don't change simply because of the source played... and again, once you set the speaker to "large", you defeat the xover... you aren't crossing at all then, you are feeding the mains the full range signal...

fwiw, i'm almost exclusively a classical listener, and i have mains that have proven in-room response well down into the 30's... i cross them at 80...

the a/v gods invented subwoofers for a reason...

allright, I´d love to adopt some know-how from you
well, if we´re talking about some nice Verdi´s or Handel´s choruses, with exceptional vocal and multi-instrumental performances but not that much lower bass information, isn´t it better to let the fronts embrace that stereo input all the way, without a sub?
I´d really appreciate if you pointed me at right direction here..
as you probably know, I´d always prefer to set my fronts to SMALL with 80Hz crossover and I did initially, I´m just little curious with such particular source as classical music stereo..
post #4535 of 4995
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Originally Posted by jw00dy View Post

If you question is why the 63hz is grayed out, it's because your crossover to the sub is higher than that number so it's not going to EQ anything below the sub crossover point.

At least that's what I've gathered since mine does the same thing and I'm crossed over @ 80Hz.

Hi, jw00dy, ok let me understand this: since I have my crossover set to 80 Hz, anything below that number isn't being equalized?

I just talked to the Pioneer Customer Service. The guy said that if set the main speakers to LARGE, and the SW to + (a setting that is available when the speakers are set to LARGE,) then the 63 Hz will show up in the equalizer. He suggested that I try both way, i.e, speakers set to SMALL and LARGE and see which sound I prefer. Any thoughts?
post #4536 of 4995
@jlheholeo...

sure, no problem... later on today when i get some time, i'll give you the "long form" rationale for what i'm saying...
post #4537 of 4995
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Originally Posted by jhumur View Post

Hi, jw00dy, ok let me understand this: since I have my crossover set to 80 Hz, anything below that number isn't being equalized?

I just talked to the Pioneer Customer Service. The guy said that if set the main speakers to LARGE, and the SW to + (a setting that is available when the speakers are set to LARGE,) then the 63 Hz will show up in the equalizer. He suggested that I try both way, i.e, speakers set to SMALL and LARGE and see which sound I prefer. Any thoughts?

a) yes, that's true*...

b) yes, the first part is true. the second part, not so true. "large" and "plus" is very rarely (read: virtually never) the "better" option...

* technically, mcacc could be modifying slightly below the xover, as the xover isn't a brick wall, and mcacc has the ability to set wider filters than what you can through the manual graphic equalizer.... however, if you are crossing at 80hz, 63hz is essentially a full half octave below the xover, and at that point, there wouldn't be enough information left from the mains signal to be "worth" eq'ing...
post #4538 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

@jlheholeo...

sure, no problem... later on today when i get some time, i'll give you the "long form" rationale for what i'm saying...

cool, thanks a lot
post #4539 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

very unlikely... the rules of acoustics don't change simply because of the source played... and again, once you set the speaker to "large", you defeat the xover... you aren't crossing at all then, you are feeding the mains the full range signal...

fwiw, i'm almost exclusively a classical listener, and i have mains that have proven in-room response well down into the 30's... i cross them at 80...

the a/v gods invented subwoofers for a reason...

hi, ccotenj, according to the Pioneer CS guy (some of the most unfriendly people I know, BTW), on the VSX-1120-k, if you set the speakers to LARGE, and set the SW to +, some signals will still get forwarded to the SW. Is he right? I didn't have the presence of mind to ask him about the crossover point with the speakers set to LARGE.
post #4540 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

a) yes, that's true*...

b) yes, the first part is true. the second part, not so true. "large" and "plus" is very rarely (read: virtually never) the "better" option...

* technically, mcacc could be modifying slightly below the xover, as the xover isn't a brick wall, and mcacc has the ability to set wider filters than what you can through the manual graphic equalizer.... however, if you are crossing at 80hz, 63hz is essentially a full half octave below the xover, and at that point, there wouldn't be enough information left from the mains signal to be "worth" eq'ing...

Thank you, Chris. Informative and helpful! I'll leave my speaker settings as they are, and not worry about the 63 Hz bar in the equalizer.
post #4541 of 4995
I have minor question:

When I switch to a DD/DTS (SD/HD) audio source from a PCM/Stereo one, the receiver flashes the following message:

"DIAL. NORM +4".

Where does it means? Where does it come from? How do change it?

It's a minor question because the 1120-K is set up perfectly, but I RTFM and could not find a reference to DIAL. NORM +4, was curious if someone might shed some light on it.

I might help me sleep better.
post #4542 of 4995
Hmmm, I thought I answered the exact same question last week.

Regardless it's part of Dolby Digital spec. For better info, visit www.dolby.com
post #4543 of 4995
Just picked up a 1120 as well, woot. It seems AirPlay is not an option for it based on what I am reading - is it at least possible to somehow edit the Internet radio stations that are in it? Through the PC or something?
post #4544 of 4995
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

A few quick comments regarding power consumption and hdmi pass through:

1. If you are very concerned about power consumption, I recommend you rely on the rear-mounted, 5 watt speakers within your LED HDTV.

2. HDMI Passthrough is going to use a fair amount of idle power. In other words, you are foregoing the power when firing up the receiver to rely just on the tv speakers in exchange for using significantly more power at idle all the time. It would be my uneducated guess that the receiver uses less than a watt at idle with HDMI mode in eco and no pass through. For practical purposes, let's say the receiver uses 30 watts with pass through enabled. Now let's assume you want to watch tv at night for two hours without amplification from the receiver, so you continue to only use 30 watts. If you power on the receiver on mute, let's say it uses 80 watts for those two hours.

So, let's compare total usage using the hdmi passthrough method versus my Polish passthrough method of putting it on mute.

Passthrough: 30 watts x 24 hours = 720 watts
Polish passthrough: 1 watts X 22 hours + 80 watts x 2 hours = 182 watts

Wow!!!

Is this actually accurate? I'm all for convenience, but I do care about waste as well lol.
post #4545 of 4995
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post

Just picked up a 1120 as well, woot. It seems AirPlay is not an option for it based on what I am reading - is it at least possible to somehow edit the Internet radio stations that are in it? Through the PC or something?

Yes, you can at least edit thru its web client, and I'm pretty sure you cam edit the radio list directly thru the receiver.

I've had great success with the former method.

James
post #4546 of 4995
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post

is it at least possible to somehow edit the Internet radio stations that are in it? Through the PC or something?

Check pages 81,82 of the receiver's manual, in there you'll find how to get the receiver's IP adress to change the stations and more...
post #4547 of 4995
I have a little minor problem I don't know what's causing it. When I connect the white cable to listen to music i have on my iPhone, no matter what song I play, there is popping/crackling noise in the background. Kinda sounds like if my songs are all like how vinyl records sound. I'm hoping it's just tue cable and not something with my reciever. Blu ray movies, or when I watch directv this doesn't happen. Anyone else have this issue?
post #4548 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ki11abee View Post

I have a little minor problem I don't know what's causing it. When I connect the white cable to listen to music i have on my iPhone, no matter what song I play, there is popping/crackling noise in the background. Kinda sounds like if my songs are all like how vinyl records sound. I'm hoping it's just tue cable and not something with my reciever. Blu ray movies, or when I watch directv this doesn't happen. Anyone else have this issue?

I got that before on a different HT but in my case was caused by the fact I had the tweeters really hot....
Try checking the EQ on the iphone it may just be set on "treble booster" or something like that.
post #4549 of 4995
Well just checked and my phone doesn't have the EQ on so I doubt it's that. But weird it only does it when I plug my phone and not in a movie or tv...any other suggestions?
post #4550 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ki11abee View Post
Well just checked and my phone doesn't have the EQ on so I doubt it's that. But weird it only does it when I plug my phone and not in a movie or tv...any other suggestions?
Is the cable damaged?
Maybe the tiny pins inside the iphone's end, dunno....that's kind of weird.
post #4551 of 4995
Well I'm hoping it's internally in the cable because I connect my phone on my car headunit and I don't experience the noise. Wish I had an extra cable to test. Maybe pioneer can RMA me one since it's less than a year?
post #4552 of 4995
If its an iPhone do you have IOS 4.1? IOS 4.2 fixed the issue you desrcibed for me caused by IOS 4.1.
post #4553 of 4995
I have 4.3.3. Soon as there is an update my phone has it within minutes so its not that. Unless they brought that bug back on this update?
post #4554 of 4995
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Originally Posted by pbrolick View Post

I didn't know if there was a certain input I should be using. It has been a while since I set it up and just got apple tv.


Nope just pick one input and rename it to Apple TV. It works like a charm for me. I dunno what is going on with your receiver.

Come to think of it. I had a green screen for a second when the inputs were changing over. Do you use a Harmony Remote to power everything up. I only ask because I was using an 880 (green screen), changed over to a ONE, and no more green screen.

I can't think of anything else I might have done to change things. It just went away, without me even noticing until reading your post. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
post #4555 of 4995
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Originally Posted by grpape View Post


Come to think of it. I had a green screen for a second when the inputs were changing over. Do you use a Harmony Remote to power everything up. I only ask because I was using an 880 (green screen), changed over to a ONE, and no more green screen.

Noticed you have a Harmony One with this unit. I'm struggling a little with my H1. All activities set up work fine but often, when switching activities from a power OFF position, the Input source on my Pioneer VSX-1120-K AV Receiver does not switch. Can I adjust something to lock that down?
post #4556 of 4995
Pretty new owner wondering if I can use my old Technics turntable with this unit?
post #4557 of 4995
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Originally Posted by Hotkey View Post

Noticed you have a Harmony One with this unit. I'm struggling a little with my H1. All activities set up work fine but often, when switching activities from a power OFF position, the Input source on my Pioneer VSX-1120-K AV Receiver does not switch. Can I adjust something to lock that down?

yup... change the power on delay for the avr device... that will give it an opportunity to power on and be ready to accept commands...
post #4558 of 4995
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Originally Posted by jleholeho View Post

cool, thanks a lot

y'know, i KNEW i owed somebody a response... i just couldn't find what thread it was in... i'm getting old...

sorry man, i got busy that day, and then went away for a long weekend...

as soon as i get caught back up on life again, i'll get you the promised response...

sorry again...
post #4559 of 4995
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

yup... change the power on delay for the avr device... that will give it an opportunity to power on and be ready to accept commands...

Worked! Thx.
post #4560 of 4995
^^^

cool... glad it worked out...

you are welcome...
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