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post #4711 of 5025
I believe the reason you cannot get it to power-on through he app is because telnet port 23 and http port 80 both shut down when you put the receiver into standby. I would be very interested in finding out if there is a IP-based workaround for this. I would hate to downgrade to IP blaster for a receiver that is supposed to have IP control.

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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

Has anyone installed the full version of this app from android marketplace?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/icontrol...ControlAVAFree
I have installed the free version and it works fine for basic control (the GUI could be better) like changing input, Volume and turns the receiver off (can't somehow to get get it to turn the Receiver on) Surely not an alternate to my trusty old harmony.
I would appreciate an opinion before going for the full version.
post #4712 of 5025
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Originally Posted by tomi1122 View Post

I believe the reason you cannot get it to power-on through he app is because telnet port 23 and http port 80 both shut down when you put the receiver into standby. I would be very interested in finding out if there is a IP-based workaround for this. I would hate to downgrade to IP blaster for a receiver that is supposed to have IP control.

Well I can turn on the receiver via web control through my browser with my laptop or android phone browser.
post #4713 of 5025
I just installed Front Heights and was wandering what listening modes, to use for blu-ray and for TV watching.
post #4714 of 5025
I know this may have already been answered. But I could not finding it by searvching.
I want to play my Wii but listen to a CD or the TV or anything else besides the game. How do I do that. Thanks in advance
post #4715 of 5025
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Originally Posted by darrenphillips View Post

I know this may have already been answered. But I could not finding it by searvching.
I want to play my Wii but listen to a CD or the TV or anything else besides the game. How do I do that. Thanks in advance

A few pages back I asked the same question...I wanted to play using my PS3 while listening to my music via the airport express I have, it turns out the only input that can do that is HDMI 2 or DVD.
The first device needs to be connected via HDMI and the device giving you music ie you SACD,DVD or any other device that has digital out will need to be hooked to the Digital in 1 in order for this to work.
post #4716 of 5025
I have a question regarding bass management of the 1120. From what I have read, with digital inputs, direct mode used BM but pure direct bypasses BM, running your fronts full range. Is bass management handled the same way with analog inputs (like the cd input not the 7.1 ins) or is there no BM at all with any of the analog inputs?
post #4717 of 5025
Hey 1120 Owners, would appreciate your guidance. My ancient (single DVI input, if you can believe it) Sony KP-65WS500 recently croaked, so a Panasonic Viera TC-P65GT30 now hangs in it's space. Since the new set is 3D capable, and because my "old" Pioneer VSX 918V has always lacked sufficient input/output options, I have been looking at what replaces it. To help decide, I've read this thread (and others) for hours. This weekend, I found an 1120-K on sale locally for $349, so bought it to preserve the option and price point. It's unopened, so I have 30 days to make a decision on it, and here is the rough cut on what I'm unsure about: (1) I've seen a higher than expected level of complaints (even after factoring in that whiners are over-represented as a rule), on multiple boards and websites, about problems with the 1120 going blinking blue light dead and/or HDMI video out dead during the first year. I like the features and I/O options, but honestly, reliability is my top priority. Do you think an 1120 is likely to be as steady a performer as my last two Pioneer receivers (a VSX-918 V and a VSX-D608, both still chugging), or is the 1120 more problematic, just as it is more featured? (2) I've read the 1120 firmware update posts with interest, and also apprehension. I'm grateful to the poster for making the update available, but puzzled about why Pioneer isn't making it available, unclear about the issues/problems the FW is intended to address, and a little worried that I'll unintentionally lobotomize my 1120 if I decide to keep it, and later update the firmware. Regrets the long post, but any candor on 1120 reliability / known risk areas will help me decide what to do here.
post #4718 of 5025
I have the VSX-32 which is almost an exact copy of the 1120. I have had it for a year and have not experienced any problems. I recently upgraded to the new firmware without issue. Since you have a new unit, it is very possible the latest firmware is already loaded. As far as I can tell, the latest firmware does not have anything major included. On the other hand, no one has reported any issues when they upgraded.

Pioneer historically has not released firmware to the public. I believe the new 2011 models have full networking and include over-the-network upgrading for the first time. In summary, don't worry about it.

I think the 1120 is an excellent unit. It was a great value at $550. At $350 it's a steal.

I have a couple things for you to consider. The new 2011 models improve networking including Apple AirPlay and DLNA support. If this is improtant to you now or in the future, check out the new models. They will cost more, of course. Do you have DirecTV? DirecTV broadcasts two of their five dedicated 3D channels in an optional format that the 1120 doesn't support. There is some discussion that DirecTV may one day change the format but then again they may not. I believe the 2011 Pioneer models added the optional format. You will need to check the dedicated 2011 forum to make sure.
post #4719 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Raddle View Post

I have a couple things for you to consider. The new 2011 models improve networking including Apple AirPlay and DLNA support. If this is improtant to you now or in the future, check out the new models. They will cost more, of course. Do you have DirecTV? DirecTV broadcasts two of their five dedicated 3D channels in an optional format that the 1120 doesn't support. There is some discussion that DirecTV may one day change the format but then again they may not. I believe the 2011 Pioneer models added the optional format. You will need to check the dedicated 2011 forum to make sure.

Thanks Raddle, good thoughts all. Between Sonos and Apple TV, I probably don't require AirPlay / DLNA access. And since I switched from DirecTV back to Dish a couple years ago, that disconnect is not currently an issue. But since you know, and I should -- what is the format that DTV is sending that the 1120 can't handle, and is that exclusively a DTV issue? (I guess DTV subscribers can usually cable around that issue.) On my core issue, I am assuming your view is that the 1120 has been a good performer on reliability? Thanks again.
post #4720 of 5025
DTV broadcasts ESPN 3D and VOD 3D in 720p Side-by-Side. If DTV would broadcast these channels in 720p Top-and-Bottom, the Pioneer could display them. 720p SbS is an optional format; 720p TnB is a mandatory format. You are correct: the workaround is to cable directly to the TV from the STB and pipe an optical audio cable to the AVR. As far as I know, the issue is only with DTV.

The 1120, like most of Pioneer's line-up, enjoys a solid reputation for reliability.
post #4721 of 5025
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

Thanks Raddle, good thoughts all. Between Sonos and Apple TV, I probably don't require AirPlay / DLNA access. And since I switched from DirecTV back to Dish a couple years ago, that disconnect is not currently an issue. But since you know, and I should -- what is the format that DTV is sending that the 1120 can't handle, and is that exclusively a DTV issue? (I guess DTV subscribers can usually cable around that issue.) On my core issue, I am assuming your view is that the 1120 has been a good performer on reliability? Thanks again.

+1 to what Randle said. I have had it for over a year. The receiver is rock solid and comparable to my previous Pio Elite in terms of reliability. I did do the firmware upgrade without a hitch (I still don't know what it does
There were some lock on issues for converting SD signal to HD but once I unplugged the HDMI cables and plugged them back in I haven;t had that issue. At the price you paid its almost a no brainer. Just in case does your store offer extended warranty? I mean if its $$ and adds a couple of years you can always get it
post #4722 of 5025
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

+1 to what Randle said. I have had it for over a year. The receiver is rock solid and comparable to my previous Pio Elite in terms of reliability. I did do the firmware upgrade without a hitch (I still don't know what it does
There were some lock on issues for converting SD signal to HD but once I unplugged the HDMI cables and plugged them back in I haven;t had that issue. At the price you paid its almost a no brainer. Just in case does your store offer extended warranty? I mean if its $$ and adds a couple of years you can always get it

Thanks ElvisAhmed. No, I didn't buy an extended, but can go back and do that. If I convince myself to ignore the naysayers, which seems likely, I'll probably have concluded it will perform as reliably as my prior Pioneers, and will be comfortable going with the one year that Pioneer offers. Most of the boo hooing I've read has involved alleged early (a few weeks to a few months after purchase) flame outs. I'm starting to conclude it is likely just a higher than normal incidence of the "whiners are louder" phenomenon. I don't see anywhere near the same frequency of complaints on this Forum.
post #4723 of 5025
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

Thanks ElvisAhmed. No, I didn't buy an extended, but can go back and do that. If I convince myself to ignore the naysayers, which seems likely, I'll probably have concluded it will perform as reliably as my prior Pioneers, and will be comfortable going with the one year that Pioneer offers. Most of the boo hooing I've read has involved alleged early (a few weeks to a few months after purchase) flame outs. I'm starting to conclude it is likely just a higher than normal incidence of the "whiners are louder" phenomenon. I don't see anywhere near the same frequency of complaints on this Forum.

Well the thing is now receivers are more like a PC and thus its more likely to be software issue rather than the hardware giving out. Add to that the unpredictably of HDMI it is a recipe for electronics to go crazy. I mean seriously handshake issues! I never had any before HDMI. Cable length issues unheard of in my case and I had 75 ft cable run for my front Projector. IMO as far as the hardware part is concerned this receiver is rock solid. I would check what the extended warranty costs, even if it is extended due to your credit card if it another 10-20$ (shouldn't be a lot more as its determined my price of hardware in most cases) I would go for it that way its the problem of the store to figure it out if anything goes wrong.
post #4724 of 5025
Hey guys I'm looking to cut the cable and I was wondering how to make on of those antennas from monoprice work with this receiver...
post #4725 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Evildude View Post

Hey guys I'm looking to cut the cable and I was wondering how to make on of those antennas from monoprice work with this receiver...

Please explain? Are you planning to use a Over the Air Antenna? You can't directly connect those to a any AVR. I am assuming you are going to hook it up to your TV and then use the toslink to get the audio to play out from the Pio as that's the only way you can tie the receiver into the equation.
post #4726 of 5025
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

Please explain? Are you planning to use a Over the Air Antenna? You can't directly connect those to a any AVR. I am assuming you are going to hook it up to your TV and then use the toslink to get the audio to play out from the Pio as that's the only way you can tie the receiver into the equation.

Damn, I knew it..
Well right now I'm thinking to also use the hulu plus and netflix on the PS3 but I think I might get a Roku box, TWC just got me too upset this afternoon and I'm so ready to cut them off...No more F1 races tho
post #4727 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Evildude View Post

Damn, I knew it..
Well right now I'm thinking to also use the hulu plus and netflix on the PS3 but I think I might get a Roku box, TWC just got me too upset this afternoon and I'm so ready to cut them off...No more F1 races tho

Well I don't see how it would make a difference in terms of sound quality as your HDTV will be sending out the audio for your Receiver to play via toslink or audio return channel via HDMI (I am not sure your display will be capable of this) The downside could be that you will not be able to use the Marvell Chip for up converting SDTV signal to HD. I don't know of any receiver which will catch OTA channels and then play them on your tv.
post #4728 of 5025
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Originally Posted by nickwin View Post

I have a question regarding bass management of the 1120. From what I have read, with digital inputs, direct mode used BM but pure direct bypasses BM, running your fronts full range. Is bass management handled the same way with analog inputs (like the cd input not the 7.1 ins) or is there no BM at all with any of the analog inputs?

Can anyone comment on this?
post #4729 of 5025
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Originally Posted by JimR013 View Post

Has anyone gotten the Audio Return thru HDMI working with Vizio XVT554
Seems like it should work according to the manual but I can't find a function for it in Menu Settings

Page 23 of the Manual may help:

When the TV and receiver are connected by HDMI connections, if the TV supports the HDMI Audio Return Channel function, the sound of the TV is input to the receiver via the HDMI terminal, so there is no need to connect an audio cable. In this case, set TV Audio at HDMI Setup to via HDMI (see HDMI Setup on page 52)
post #4730 of 5025
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

... now receivers are more like a PC and thus its more likely to be software issue ... [consider the extended warranty], that way its the problem of the store to figure it out if anything goes wrong.

That's good advice, thanks EA. That said, we are talking about BB here, and I'm not convinced they could diagnose a head cold, even if the patient was sneezing, coughing, and had a sore throat.

Not saying. Just saying.
post #4731 of 5025
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

That's good advice, thanks EA. That said, we are talking about BB here, and I'm not convinced they could diagnose a head cold, even if the patient was sneezing, coughing, and had a sore throat.

Not saying. Just saying.

Well actually I would say a place like that is in your favor as they usually have no questions asked policy (in my experience) and would give you store credit or a equivalent receiver without bothering to have it repaired. The best part is their extended warranties are pegged to the sale price so you can get a deal on the extended warranty as you are paying less than 500$.
post #4732 of 5025
Is the cross over active on the vsx1120 when using the stereo analog inputs?

Thanks
post #4733 of 5025
question...this might have been addressed, so point me in the direction if needed. my 1120 flashes every now and then when watching TV with my DISH receiver. it doesn't do it all the time but the screen will go black for second, the audio doesn't go out. i haven't seen the flicker/flash with any other inputs, especially my blu ray player. should i contact Panasonic or is this a common problem with the SAT receiver/AVR combo.

thanks
post #4734 of 5025
what exactly is flickering/flashing? I use my 1120 with my 722 dish reciever and the only thing that flickers/flashes is the audio input indicator when the 722 has audio dropouts.
post #4735 of 5025
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Originally Posted by gollumis View Post

question...this might have been addressed, so point me in the direction if needed. my 1120 flashes every now and then when watching TV with my DISH receiver. it doesn't do it all the time but the screen will go black for second, the audio doesn't go out. i haven't seen the flicker/flash with any other inputs, especially my blu ray player. should i contact Panasonic or is this a common problem with the SAT receiver/AVR combo.

thanks

It might be the Marvell Chip lock in issue that I was encountering when switching between SD and HD. I would recommend unplugging the HDMI cables and doing a power cycle. I think its just the HDMI handshake at work.
post #4736 of 5025
SRussell,

i have a 722 as well....what i mean by flahing is the TV (it goes black and then its back), nothing changes on the 1120 screen, as i said the audio doesn't drop out. This happens on HD channels every now and then.

Elvisahmed,

I had a feeling that it was a handshake issue (i have tried to explain that to the wife too. lol) how do i do this? unplug the HDMI from the 1120.....then what?

thanks for the response's
post #4737 of 5025
I'm noticing that when I have some input (TV or HTPC or BR/DVD) turned on but no sound for about 10 minutes, my SUB starts clicking several times then shuts off. Never did it with old Onkyo AVRCVR. Any problem with this?
post #4738 of 5025
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Originally Posted by gollumis View Post

SRussell,

i have a 722 as well....what i mean by flahing is the TV (it goes black and then its back), nothing changes on the 1120 screen, as i said the audio doesn't drop out. This happens on HD channels every now and then.

Elvisahmed,

I had a feeling that it was a handshake issue (i have tried to explain that to the wife too. lol) how do i do this? unplug the HDMI from the 1120.....then what?

thanks for the response's

Well what you need to do is unplug all the HDMI cables from 1120 and other devices. Turn off the power and turn it on after a bit for all components. I know it sounds silly and kind of like the old days of windows PC where the support used to tell us please close all application and turn off the PC and restart it after a couple of minutes. Hopefully this will work for you otherwise I would just connect via component video or maybe even pass through.
post #4739 of 5025
I don't see any sort of screen flashing on my Sony SXRD RPTV with the 1120 when watching my 722. All connected via HDMI.
post #4740 of 5025
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Originally Posted by SRussell View Post

I don't see any sort of screen flashing on my Sony SXRD RPTV with the 1120 when watching my 722. All connected via HDMI.

How frequently are you experiencing the audio drops, and do you know whether they are 1120 or 722 driven, or a cabling issue?

I had a persistent audio drop issue with the 722k and my Pioneer VSX-918V. The drops only happened when listening to the 722k via the VSX-918 when the signal was carried via HDMI. It was a really specific fault sequence that required recording on one tuner, watching the 722's other tuner in live mode, and then pausing playback while watching the "live" feed. Each and every time, that would generate audio drops from that point forward that rendered the TV virtually unwatchable. (Once triggered, the drops continued even after you caught up with live programming). Only heard via HDMI. Any other connection used (optical, RCA, whatever) was drop free. So I just cabled around it. That said, persistent drops between the 722k and the 1120 would drive me nuts.
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