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post #4981 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Econoline View Post

I need some advice on the center channel sound from my 1120.

I've tried two completely different center speakers, a Polk CS-10, and a Magnepan MMGC. With either speaker in a 3.1 HT setup my center sounds harsh, tinny, and shrill. I've tried streaming 5.1 from Netflix as well as BluRay DVD's and both sound equally bad.

Thinking that the MMGC might be overloading the 1120 amp, I connected it through an external Halfer amp and it sounded exactly the same. I tried calibrating the receiver with MCACC and still the center speaker never sounds right. Using a virtual center sounds better but that isn't what I want. The system is up against a bare wall, no wall treatments or carpeting, which could be partially responsible.

I'd really appreciate any thoughts or ideas on what could be wrong with my setup that could cause this problem. With center alone it is really hard to listen too.

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Originally Posted by howzz1854 View Post

my guess is your center is colored to begin with. if your main L/R are less colored, you can tell MCACC to calibrate according to FRONTS. there're three options of auto calibration. "all channel", "FRONTS", or "opposites". in this case if your fronts are less colored, i would calibrate to the fronts. all channel in this case will just make your fronts sound tinier and more shrilling.

try that and report back.

I wasn't aware that I could calibrate to the FRONTS with MCACC. I tried that and there is a significant improvement in the center sound.

I want to add some wall treatment behind the speakers next, but I think I'm on the right track now.

Thanks again for your help with the calibration, I never would have tried that.
post #4982 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Econoline View Post


I wasn't aware that I could calibrate to the FRONTS with MCACC. I tried that and there is a significant improvement in the center sound.

I want to add some wall treatment behind the speakers next, but I think I'm on the right track now.

Thanks again for your help with the calibration, I never would have tried that.

np man, glad i could help. smile.gif

when i first got it i wasn't familiar with MCACC, and right off the batt MCACC gave me ALL CHANNEL calibration result, which was shrill, overly bright and tiny. it wasn't until i started playing around with the calibration.

Pioneer can definitely do a better job with their manual. some of the explanations are vague at best and only causes more confusion.
post #4983 of 5025
you guys.... what would be a good AMP to get with the 1120 that'll allow me to do 9.1.
post #4984 of 5025
I always thought this AVR couldn't do 9.1or .2 , until the last couple of pages. I've been running a Onkyo 818 to achieve this, but am interested to use the 1120 with MCACC. I have a Emotiva XPA-7 which will run the front three and surrounds, then I can use the 1120 to run the heights and rear surrounds (or I can run the surrounds and heights off of the 1120). Does this sound right? My next question would be selecting the right processing setting. Is there a setting that correctly runs 9.1? I always thought that you needed newer processing (NeoX) to run a 9.1 correctly.
post #4985 of 5025
^^^ for AVRs that can do 9.1 simultaneously, you engage PLIIz Height, it'll enable both height, and rear surrounds. the SC-1521k's manual specified this.
post #4986 of 5025
Thanks for the info. So even if the manual is from a different model Pio (1521), it will still pertain to the 1120? I hope I'm reading your post correctly. I am currently waiting for my Costco to stock the 1522, but wanted to run the 1120 to see how it sounds compared to the 818 (XT32 no Sub. eq).
post #4987 of 5025
Finally pulled out my manual for the 1120. I don't know why, but I thought this AVR could only do 7.1. It states that you can do 9.1 in either FH or FW configuration on pg.16. redface.gif Thanks for the help howzz. The Emotiva amps are pretty nice if you want to run a 9.1. I'm running an older one, and it does IMHO, sound better when you push the sound.
post #4988 of 5025
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Originally Posted by grpape View Post

Finally pulled out my manual for the 1120. I don't know why, but I thought this AVR could only do 7.1. It states that you can do 9.1 in either FH or FW configuration on pg.16. redface.gif Thanks for the help howzz. The Emotiva amps are pretty nice if you want to run a 9.1. I'm running an older one, and it does IMHO, sound better when you push the sound.

thanks for the Emotiva recommendation. their prices do look reasonable. although i have had no experience in external amps. now i just need someone to confirm whether the 1120K can indeed do 9.1 simultaneously with front three channels sent to the amp, and the rest surrounds and height from the receiver. it'll really suck to have to spend some $800 to findo out.

also the rated 200watt per channel for Emotiva XPA-3 is RMS right? because it says minimum, and i am not sure what that means. does it mean when you turn it on, it sends 200 watts to each speaker? is there no way to turn that down? i am worried because if i get it, i would be hooking it up to my front three channels, and mains are rated at 100watts each, and center is rated at 75 watts. i don't want to blow anything.

here's the link
http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa3
post #4989 of 5025
It's a 200 watt capable source, but on turn-on (aside from a thump on some) it will be at zero watts assuming the input is inactive (volume all the way down), You should be safe.
post #4990 of 5025
thanks man...

unfortunately i got myself excited all for nothing.

i emailed Pioneer tech support. the confirmed that this receiver can only process up to 7.1 channels. i asked about adding an external amp to free up two channels to make room for 9.1, but they confirmed that it'll only process up to 7.1 only.

i guess i just saved myself some money. frown.gif
post #4991 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Kurtos View Post

Hi


I want to buy this receiver only if it can output 9.1 channels (7.1 with the 1120 and 2 channels with the pre-outs at the same time) Is this possible?


Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by plissken99 View Post

I'm sure it is. I'm doing 9.1(front height), with an Emotiva XPA5 driving 5 channels.
post #4992 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post


i saw that post before, but it's a bit ambiguous. i don't know if the user means he's doing 9.1 simultaneously, or 7.1 PLUS front height. because in the manual, it does say you can hook up 9.1, but it states that you can't run both Front Height and Rear at the same time. and that's what Pioneer said. so unless someone with a solid experience can elaborate more i am hesitant to spend another $500 to find out.
post #4993 of 5025
Mine only has 7.2 - 2 pre-outs for active subs and 7 channels. Can't do rear surround and front height at the same time, which would be 9 channels. Or you can do 5.2 and biamp your two front speakers.

To be clear, the speaker connections are there for all 9 channels, but the AVR will only drive 7 of them at a time. You can pick either / or, but not both.
post #4994 of 5025
dudes... after few weeks of fine tunning my JBL L820's. i can honestly say that everyone should have a 7.1 system. it is just THAT awesome. and i think all movies now should all come out with 7.1 as well. doesn't matter if the speakers are 5.1, they get upmixed anyway, but 7.1 really puts you in the scene.

i used to be a none believer, but it proved me wrong. it truely is awesome.
post #4995 of 5025
Semi-official end of thread.
Edited by mogrub - 7/16/13 at 6:11am
post #4996 of 5025
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

Semi-official end of thread.

Why? People can still have questions about this unit.
post #4997 of 5025
They sure can. Glad you're here.
post #4998 of 5025
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Originally Posted by ldeveraux View Post

Why? People can still have questions about this unit.

Yep, like me. smile.gif

Just bought one of these, used but in very nice condition. Got it to replace my B&K Reference 50 Series II that freezes up pretty often. I LOVE the sound of the B&K, and hope this one won't sound worse, but we'll see.

Anyway, my question: I don't have an HDMI TV yet. Connected by DVI from the cable box, component from PS3, and VGA from XBox.

I would like to get the lossless sound from my Blu Rays on my PS3.

I downloaded the manual and it looks like I should be able to connect an HDMI from the PS3 to the 1120, but only use the HDMI for sound, while the picture still goes through component. Currently, I use optical for sound to the receiver.

But I can't get the HDMI to work. First, the PS3 didn't "see" the HDMI connection, then I played with the PS3 settings and it saw it but wouldn't work.

Anyone try this?
post #4999 of 5025
Figured it out. I apparently have a couple of dead HDMI ports. Just on a whim, I switched to another one last night and it worked.

Wonder how much it would be to get that repaired?
post #5000 of 5025
Probably more than it's worth! I would buy a different unit.
post #5001 of 5025
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Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post

Figured it out. I apparently have a couple of dead HDMI ports. Just on a whim, I switched to another one last night ...
Worth a look to check your HDMI and audio assignments in the 1120 menu settings. They can be switched all over the place to accommodate various user needs. That seems at least as likely an explanation for what you have going on as multiple port failures would be. Cheaper to fix too. Good luck! 🍺
post #5002 of 5025
Not sure if this thread is still being followed but I've got an hp dv6936 laptop that I can connect w/ HDMI to my TV and get sound and video sent to the TV but when I try running through my vsx1120k with the same HDMI cable, I only get video passing through to the TV and no sound through the receiver. Signal select is set to HDMI for the input I'm using. I'm going crazy trying to figure out how to get the sound to run through the receiver to my speakers. Please help.
post #5003 of 5025
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Originally Posted by alfanut33 View Post

Not sure if this thread is still being followed but I've got an hp dv6936 laptop that I can connect w/ HDMI to my TV and get sound and video sent to the TV but when I try running through my vsx1120k with the same HDMI cable, I only get video passing through to the TV and no sound through the receiver. Signal select is set to HDMI for the input I'm using. I'm going crazy trying to figure out how to get the sound to run through the receiver to my speakers. Please help.

After you plug in the HDMI cable to the receiver, check to make sure that the HDMI/VSX-1120 is set as the playback audio device buy right-clicking the little speaker icon on the taskbar and selecting "Playback devices"
post #5004 of 5025
Hello guys. My receiver is loosing renamed inputs name and also last volume position. I tried a search but I'm on my phone and could not find anything. I wonder if it has anything to do with an internal memory battery or something? Any help please?
post #5005 of 5025
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Originally Posted by chiquito3 View Post

Hello guys. My receiver is loosing renamed inputs name and also last volume position. I tried a search but I'm on my phone and could not find anything. I wonder if it has anything to do with an internal memory battery or something? Any help please?
Hmm Do you unplug your AVR? or is it even losing names while in standby. I recall my older receiver having a battery inside but there is no mention of it in the manual. Have you tried calling support?
post #5006 of 5025
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Originally Posted by elvisahmed View Post

Hmm Do you unplug your AVR? or is it even losing names while in standby. I recall my older receiver having a battery inside but there is no mention of it in the manual. Have you tried calling support?

I have it connected to a smart strip current protector that disconects it. But it has been connected there for a very long time but this issue did not happen before. Thanks for your reply.
post #5007 of 5025
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Originally Posted by chiquito3 View Post

I have it connected to a smart strip current protector that disconects it. But it has been connected there for a very long time but this issue did not happen before. Thanks for your reply.
Hmm I would try plugging in directly and see if it still continues to happen.
If that doesn't help I would contact support.
post #5008 of 5025
I have had my receiver for about three years. In the past few months I have lost connection for Internet radio and my Bluetooth adapter. Has anyone experienced either of these problems and figured out how to troubleshoot? My AVR is connected to an Ethernet switch that shows active for the connection to the AVR. I have reseated my BT adapter but no luck.
post #5009 of 5025
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Originally Posted by mogrub View Post

Worth a look to check your HDMI and audio assignments in the 1120 menu settings. They can be switched all over the place to accommodate various user needs. That seems at least as likely an explanation for what you have going on as multiple port failures would be. Cheaper to fix too. Good luck! 🍺

Figured I'd update what happened with my receiver:

Got a new Panasonic 65VT60 TV, so now I REALLY needed my HDMI ports to work....and they were refusing to.

Now, since I bought this used, the dude had some presets named already. I had simply done away with a couple, and renamed others. But no HDMI video was passing through at all.....I could see the receiver's menu on the TV through HDMI, so I know the output was working, but nothing else.

So, I looked up how to do a complete reset. Reset the receiver back to factory. BOOM. Everything worked. All I had to do was name the connections, and make "not visible" the ones I wasn't using, like CDR and such.

Now it works perfectly, just as designed. About the only complaint I have is it's kind of slow to change when you go to another input, but it still works.

After doing this, the PS3 played with the receiver as nice as could be, too.

Before anyone gives up on their receiver, I highly recommend doing the factory reset first, see if that restores your HDMI function.
post #5010 of 5025
I am thinking about upgrading from 5.1 to 7.1. I am not interested in Front Hight or Front Wide. I assume that Speaker B is what to set the Speaker System to if I don't plan on using Front Hight or Front Wide. I plan on sending multi-channel PCM from my BDP-23FD so I can take advantage of the PQLS feature. I have a question. How are 7.1 Blu-ray discs recorded? Are the extra surround tracks supposed to be heard from the sides or the middle rear?
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