NEW MITSUBISHI HC 9000 : FULL HD, 3D and..... Lcos panels - Page 24

Yes and no, but let me make sure you understand what happens. The projector is native 16:9 as most are now. Whatever the light output you have is based on that. When you watch scope, you only use the middle of the panel obviously. And that means only that portion of the pixels, and the light output...roughly 25% less than with the full panel. But, when you zoom, you are taking the image and making it larger, which ultimately decreases the foot-lamberts off the screen, even though the light from the projector is not less. So ultimately that yields an even larger perceived drop.

Whether it is an issue depends on all your specs (room, size, etc...) and personal preference.

I'm really enjoying this projector. I only have one complaint. The convergence adjustment needs finer controls, I'm either on one side of the green or the other. Is this a hardware limitation or a firmware thing?

Its totally a firmware thing. But adjusting to hide the misconvergence, and all less than one full pixel convergence adjutments by software or firmware adjustments simply hide the misconvergence , may make other things worse. Any viewer no matter how unsophisticated can see misconvergence and eliminating it to his peepers when perched two inches from the screen is the only thing such a viewer cares about and the set manuafacturers have learned to keep them happy by letting the customers hide misconvergence with most thinking they through the adjustments have really converged things. Be careful what you wish for if you end up adjusingt things fractionally between say .3 and .4 pixels. Far better to leave a tad misconvergence if you can't see it from your viewing position. I have discussed this many many times before in many threads and I am not going to engage in another discussion here. Its complex. If you want to discuss just give me a call.

I have used and reviewed the HC9000D. Its a nice machine, enjoy, and don't fret about a small amount of residual misconvergence when viewed up close.

Thanks. The only reason why I even ask about it is because I watch many foreign films with subtitles. The red fringing is noticeable in the subtitles from viewing distance. Not a deal breaker as I'm enjoying this projector more than I should. I've already put 100 hours on it in the few weeks that I've had it.

I'm very curious on how software aligns/hides convergence since it is a physical attribute.

Reading thru this whole thread I'm surprised not more people buy this over the Epson 5010 or BenQ W7000. Given the new price at $3K shouldn't it be compared to those more often?

This is 2 yr old projector with dimmer, not as good 3D (like the VW90) so people may not be willing to shell out 3K when they can get newer, brighter projectors like 5010, W7000, RS45 for less.

Hello All, Need some help or should I say advice. Came home today and fired up the HC9000 to watch some of the Brit Open, on the left edge of my picture there is a pink streak showing up? Its is dark near the bottom of the screen than the top. When I pull up the test pattern the entire edge of white on the color pallet is pink, darker on the bottom. What do you all think the cause of this could be? I have only had the projector for aprox 4.5 months and hate to see problems with the picture as the projector has been great! Thoughts anyone?

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5938
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=de&to=en&a=http://cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/Mitsubishi_HC7800/Brillen/HC7800%20Brillen.htm

If you want to discuss this, please give me a call. Sub pixel adjustment uses two pixels to do the job of one, putting a line on two pixels instead of one and thus having the
Inter pixel spacing making the line wider. Because of the use of two pixels instead of one, resolution is reduced as well as sharpness in any area or zone where use of sub pixel adjustment is made. Experts feel that if only a tenth or two tenths of a sub pixel adjustment is made, the positives may outweigh the negatives. Three tenths or four tenths is the worst case. A half pixel adjustment would never be used because such would just shift half pixel misconvergence from one side of the pixel to the other.

Does this look like this effect from the JVC RS20 ? :

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1346620/rs20-pink-band#post_21746987

Or is it more "cloudy" like shading?
Had the pink band on my RS20 (luckily I still had warranty back then) which I sold and swapped for the IMHO much superior HC9000.
I really hope that the HC9000 does not experience this problem, once it hits 1000+ hours.

sure... now....

can you take a picture of it and post it? someone may have an idea if they see it...

haven't seen that issue here... mine gets reasonably heavy use (1200 hours in 7 months)...

Hmm...what subsection might we find this thread on?

the "call mike" subsection... give him a call, he's super helpful...

yea yea yea... deals can be had on buggy whips too...

I am President of the I like Mike club.

Where? I am in desperate need of replacing my whip...

^^^

y'know.... nah, i'm not gonna go there...

however, for the discriminating user...

http://www.buggy-whips.com/

edit: btw, that's safe for work...

Probably more demand for these. I know a guy that bought one of those older giant commercial 16mm projectors from a church that no longer used it. The thing was 100% steel and it weighed like several hundred pounds?
Looks sort of like this one, but his was more steel and heavier I think...


It needs a special outlet. It is just sitting in his garage and he doesn't even own a digital projector (Well I gave him my old Sanyo if that counts). I think he paid $500 for it, I was like you got a giant chunk of steel sitting in your garage that gets no use. He had a bunch of old 16mm films which is the "reel reason" he bought it, but there is no way for him to realistically set the thing up. This guy still owns lots of VCR tapes and laser disc players, he loves that retro-stuff.
Edited by coderguy - 7/26/12 at 5:16am

i have a slightly used (1996 Electrohome Marquee 9500LC I am considering retiring for a Mits 9000. I might consider a straight up swap (actually, you pay the shipping on the 9500!)

I just gave away both of my CRT projectors, just to get them out of the house. They were nice SIM/Seleco units, but noisy, space hogging, power gulping furnaces, plus they're loaded with all kinds of hard-to-dispose-of nasty stuff. So someone got a super deal--FREE!--and I don't have to haul them over to the monthly electronics waste collection and pay a hefty per pound fee.

Might be time to call someone about a good deal on a 9000.

My HC9000D showed up today from Mike^. I just got it hooked up so still need to callibrate but picture looks aw-fricking-some. I had to wait for my neighbor to come over to celing mount it. I have a broken foot and the things weighs 33 pounds. This is a big step up from the Sony VW50 I had previously. shipping was fast and resonable concidering it went from NY->WA. I'm glad I didn't go with one of those less reputable online shops.

What is your set-up? Screen size, material, gain, throw distance, ambient light?

Room: 17x23ft Dedicated HT no windows and cave painted
Throw: ~14ft celing mounted. I had to reduce the size a bit from factory. The PJ is mounted level near the top of the screen and the lens shift got the picture where it needed to be.

Screen: 133 16x9 Da-Lite Da-Mat 1.1 gain. <- I would not recommend if you don't have a cave.

I'm not into the whole 3D thing so I doubt I'll ever use it.

Played a bit of Xbox last and watched StarTrek. With the PJ and my screen the image is very natural they way I like it (more film like) and not over saturated or over sharp. I still haven't put up any test material and checked convergence and find tuned focus.

Hi

I own a JVC X3 and i have the opportunity to buy for at same price these projectors:

MITSUBISHI HC9000D (8 HOURS USE) - 1900€
JVC X30 (200 HOURS USE) - 1930€

They will be used in a room with white walls, 1,5 meters of wall will be darkened when i will project. The screen is 120 inches with gain 1:0 and the projector will be at 5 meters from screen. Could someone tell which is the better choice?

Could someone help me with this?
Thanks!!

I have own both projector and no doubt for me the Mits is a overall better projector.