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post #151 of 1268
Didn't care for it at all. Three things that stood out to me: 1. I hate timelines that bounce around (12 hours before, 6 weeks before, 12 months before, etc.). I f you can't build a story in a linear fashion there is a problem. 2. They were still displaying actor names 45 minutes into the show. Seriously, you can't list them all at the beginning or the end? 3. When the airplane is heading towards the President there is extreme turbulence on the ground ahead of the plane. I know it is a small thing, but that is so unrealistic that it distracted me.

I might give it one more episode, but that's it about it.
post #152 of 1268
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Originally Posted by tomhunter8 View Post

Didn't care for it at all. Three things that stood out to me: 1. I hate timelines that bounce around (12 hours before, 6 weeks before, 12 months before, etc.). I f you can't build a story in a linear fashion there is a problem. 2. They were still displaying actor names 45 minutes into the show. Seriously, you can't list them all at the beginning or the end? 3. When the airplane is heading towards the President there is extreme turbulence on the ground ahead of the plane. I know it is a small thing, but that is so unrealistic that it distracted me.

I might give it one more episode, but that's it about it.

1. I don't hate the "____ days/hours ago" gimmick, but I do agree it was overused in the pilot, hopefully they'll tone that down abit.

2. Those weren't the actors names, they were the characters.

3. I thought the same thing at the time, but after the disappearance of the plane, I figured the action on the ground was related to the "rift" or whatever that was that teleported the plane away.
post #153 of 1268
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Originally Posted by RockyF View Post

I figure it'll crash on the Lost island.

..

Was that Ben from LOST that I seen on the plane?
post #154 of 1268
That was not turbulence from the plane...
post #155 of 1268
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Originally Posted by RockyF View Post

3. I thought the same thing at the time, but after the disappearance of the plane, I figured the action on the ground was related to the "rift" or whatever that was that teleported the plane away.

Correct. That was the idea.
post #156 of 1268
Smells like a parallel universe show to me. Jason Ritter somehow travels between the universes, which is why his cruise ship room got changed. Just before the plane was going to crash, he shifted it into the parallel universe - or perhaps his original universe.
post #157 of 1268
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Originally Posted by SeattleAl View Post

Smells like a parallel universe show to me. Jason Ritter somehow travels between the universes, which is why his cruise ship room got changed. Just before the plane was going to crash, he shifted it into the parallel universe - or perhaps his original universe.

Maybe parallel universes at work but I think the reasons Ritter lost his cabin was just because the bad guys are very efficient. If they are not another faction of aliens/visitors then they are at least extremely powerful government forces. They would have to be one of the two in order to completely shut down air traffic control and then jam the systems of an F16.
post #158 of 1268
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Originally Posted by RockyF View Post

3. I thought the same thing at the time, but after the disappearance of the plane, I figured the action on the ground was related to the "rift" or whatever that was that teleported the plane away.

Same here. At the time I was wondering why it was so windy and that it made no sense for a jet engine to be doing that, then it all became clear.
post #159 of 1268
Hi guys, Gotta admit this makes me nervous. The only saving grace was the ending which means I have to watch next week all because I guessed everything but the plane going through the rift.
post #160 of 1268
Finally got around to watching this yesterday evening. I'm curious to see where it goes, but I'm far from hooked. The pacing seemed awful. It was like they were trying to have high tension for 60 straight minutes. It just made it feel hectic. Not to mention the constant jumping around the chronology didn't seem worth it. Was it trying to use "flashbacks" like Lost?

As far as the plane disappearing: Anybody actually remember "Millenium" (the movie, not the show)?

And my guess as to what's going on overall: The 97 (Plus whatever "others" are not imprisoned) are humans from the far future sent back to "fix" something. Basically, I'm expecting The 4400 minus the power-of-the-week storylines.
post #161 of 1268
Sorry if this was posted already, but during the second time they showed the president being rushed to his vehicle, it was a different camera angle and all the stuff on the tables was vibrating and moving and everything was getting upturned and falling, and water spraying, etc. What the heck was causing that. The plane wasn't even close so it wasn't causing it, not sure what the significance of that was.
post #162 of 1268
The backwards E in the title may indicate a "mirror universe".

post #163 of 1268
I don't mind the jumping-timeline. It's a puzzle show. The idea for the writers is to give the viewers some "a-ha!" moments throughout the show, as if we're in on something.
post #164 of 1268
I can't always put my finger on why I like something, but I liked this, and will continue to watch to see where it goes. By comparison, I didn't find the premise of Flashforward very compelling, so maybe they're on to something here. This is an intriguing premise, with enough 'layers' to keep us guessing for a while. What more could you ask of a serialized conspiracy drama?
post #165 of 1268
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

I can't always put my finger on why I like something, but I liked this, and will continue to watch to see where it goes. By comparison, I didn't find the premise of Flashforward very compelling, so maybe they're on to something here. This is an intriguing premise, with enough 'layers' to keep us guessing for a while. What more could you ask of a serialized conspiracy drama?

I thought FlashForward had a great premise, but horrible execution. I really wanted to like the show but it seemed like nothing ever really happened.

I don't know what to make of The Event yet. I'm still waiting to see what the premise even is. I realize pilots can often be pretty different from the rest of the show. I'll definitely give it a few episodes to see where it's going and what kind of tone it settles into.
post #166 of 1268
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Originally Posted by NeoCortex View Post

I thought FlashForward had a great premise, but horrible execution. I really wanted to like the show but it seemed like nothing ever really happened.

I don't know what to make of The Event yet. I'm still waiting to see what the premise even is. I realize pilots can often be pretty different from the rest of the show. I'll definitely give it a few episodes to see where it's going and what kind of tone it settles into.

Regarding FlashForward: Exactly. Nothing ever happened. And, would you say that a premise that doesn't seem to allow your story to go anywhere is a good one?

I think The Event has a lot of room to grow, it's opening up on so many fronts.
post #167 of 1268
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Regarding FlashForward: Exactly. Nothing ever happened. And, would you say that a premise that doesn't seem to allow your story to go anywhere is a good one?

A premise like FastForward's would be tricky to pull off well. It definitely does have a lot of potential, though. You would get into the whole fate/free-will debate. Or simply having suspense of seeing flashforwards out of context and wondering what they mean. This is stuff that FlashForward seemed to attempt, just really poorly. I still say that FlashForward would make an awesome mini-series, but is not likely to ever be a good continuing show.
post #168 of 1268
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

The plane wasn't even close so it wasn't causing it, not sure what the significance of that was.

It was the buildup to the portal opening. That's why I was completely unshocked when something like that happened to the plane.

This is one of those cases where the buildup trying to create suspense has the opposite effect and completely deflates it.

Had they not done that, I might have entertained the thought that the plane might actually crash. However, they might as well put up a blinking on screen graphic that said "See this plane? Something weird is about to happen to it!"
post #169 of 1268
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Same here. At the time I was wondering why it was so windy and that it made no sense for a jet engine to be doing that, then it all became clear.

But what wasn't clear is when they were doing the "flashback" timeline, the first couple of times there was no wind. No hurricane-like activity. Nothing. Then, all of a sudden, it was there just for the end. That bothered me.

The other thing that bothered me was the bad prop gun on the plane. His hands were all black and the door had all kinds of black markings. (sarcasm on obviously!)
post #170 of 1268
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

Maybe parallel universes at work but I think the reasons Ritter lost his cabin was just because the bad guys are very efficient. If they are not another faction of aliens/visitors then they are at least extremely powerful government forces. They would have to be one of the two in order to completely shut down air traffic control and then jam the systems of an F16.

I thought for sure he was going to say, uh, let me go to the safe. The ring I locked up is in there. "How would I know the code!?!?" Or maybe that's in a flashback for next weeks episode.
post #171 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Chris Rein View Post

But what wasn't clear is when they were doing the "flashback" timeline, the first couple of times there was no wind. No hurricane-like activity. Nothing. Then, all of a sudden, it was there just for the end. That bothered me.

I might need to re-watch some of the episode. When the end scene was happening, I remember thinking that I could have sworn there was no wind like that during the President's flashback scene. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.

So the opening teaser bit had the high winds. The second look at it in the President's flashback had no wind. The final scene, "present", version had high wind. Either they are setting us up for multiple dimensions, or this show is already starting off with massive continuity problems.
post #172 of 1268
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Originally Posted by NeoCortex View Post

...or this show is already starting off with massive continuity problems.

Agreed, and why did the Secret Service not enter the Pres' limo and then speed off to avoid the plane crashing into it? Keep the door open, show shock and horror of the impending doom??? Not up to high standards!
post #173 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Agreed, and why did the Secret Service not enter the Pres' limo and then speed off to avoid the plane crashing into it? Keep the door open, show shock and horror of the impending doom??? Not up to high standards!

I thougght the same thing, but then I thought could they leave even if they wanted to. I cant remember clearly, but I believe they were behind a gated complex, if the gates were closed, they wouldnt be able to leave until they were open. I also thought that leaving the door open was another hole, the safest thing would be to close the door, the limo would be able to take a pretty big impact (not an airplane, but its better then leaving the door open) due to its armor.

While there were somethings that made me go hmmmmmm, I am not going to give up on the show, afterall if I wanted to watch reality Id watch a documentary .
post #174 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Agreed, and why did the Secret Service not enter the Pres' limo and then speed off to avoid the plane crashing into it? Keep the door open, show shock and horror of the impending doom??? Not up to high standards!

Yeah, that was what I said before. A plane is a weapon as we all know, but it is not like a bomb on the ground. It seemed the SUV driver would have sped off and gotten some distance away but whatever, maybe he was in shock.

I think the other flashbacks did not show the high winds b/c they only occurred as the plane was getting close and the sky was opening up. Yeah, there was one scene where the President was in the SUV but IIRC, they did not show the tables (wind) at that time.

So, it was deliberately omitted from the earlier scene (partial view) but not excluded from possibly have happening.
post #175 of 1268
Wasn't crazy about it either. I know shows like this have to try to meter out the revelations, but the dialogue in this pilot seemed almost as forced as Lost...when you are talking to people that already have security clearance about an important matter, do you dance around the subject?

Anyway, it's sci-fi, so I'll watch for now.
post #176 of 1268
I really like the first show. Have to admit that the shifting was a bit disturbing trying to figure out the "when" am I?

I will def continue watching....

Hoping NBC won't burn me again!

Anyone out there seen the vastly underated Charlie Jade?
post #177 of 1268
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Agreed, and why did the Secret Service not enter the Pres' limo and then speed off to avoid the plane crashing into it? Keep the door open, show shock and horror of the impending doom??? Not up to high standards!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's bothered by this stuff. A little shock and horror is fine, but it went on way too long.

Another thing: the Prez flying to the secret site using only a solo copter? That would never happen.
post #178 of 1268
I like this show, but I believe that the NBC execs. would love reading this forum.

This show has been successful at creating wild speculation and confusing its audience.

I think the viewer needs to understand that the goal for NBC was to create wild speculation and confuse.

The "Pilot" was all about generating questions, not answers.

No one will know what "The Event" truly is until The Event decides to show us.
post #179 of 1268
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Originally Posted by ltownsend View Post

I really like the first show. Have to admit that the shifting was a bit disturbing trying to figure out the "when" am I?

I will def continue watching....

Hoping NBC won't burn me again!

Anyone out there seen the vastly underated Charlie Jade?

'Charlie Jade' was outstanding, easily the best show ever to tackle the alternate universe(s) angle for TV, highly recommended.
post #180 of 1268
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Originally Posted by bruce73 View Post

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's bothered by this stuff. A little shock and horror is fine, but it went on way too long.

Another thing: the Prez flying to the secret site using only a solo copter? That would never happen.

I have no idea whether this is true or not. But when I worked in a downtown Chicago highrise, and when George W. used to come to the city to visit, I could watch his solo military helicopter fly in and out of the city. Unless he wasn't in there, but I would find it hard to believe.
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