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post #1 of 29
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I Visited the sony store by me, They had a new demo disk, it was showing Open season, Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, toy story 3 trailer.

For me I was not impressed at all with the 3d. One the motion on screen starts moving fast, I can see the the flickering of the glasses. After 5 minutes of viewing I had to take them off, as I started getting eye strain.

Also there was noticeable ghosting on shots.

The fact that I can see the shutter going off on the glasses really bothered me.

Has anyone else had any experiences with this. I am looking at getting a new tv later this year. I have also seen the samsung 3d tv c7000 and was not impressed with that as well.

I feel the technology is being rushed out and there is a lot of quirks that need to be figured out.
post #2 of 29
I have not seen any Sony 3DTVs yet, but I do know that the general consenus is that Sony seems to be bringing up the rear with this year's 3D sets. That could be the reason why the demos weren't that impressive. Just a thought.
post #3 of 29
I find it hilarious that Sony managed to screw up so bad with the 3D sets. I mean they are extremely late to market and are even using RealD Crystal Eyes for their ASGs. How the hell can a company screw up that bad after all that is insane.
post #4 of 29
I was at a Sony Style Store this weekend and the have one big loop of all the previous demos + a few new things. I watched the loop 2X and there was no flickering or ghosting and I was looking for it. As I was watching a foreign speaking guy came up and starting asking 3D questions. Since I have a Samsung PDP I mentioned it a couple of times. Just then one of the store clerks comes over and takes over the conversation. I think he didn't like me mentioning Samsung. But like I said it wasn't intentional and if he would have said something to me I would I told him so.
post #5 of 29
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Originally Posted by peter0328 View Post

I find it hilarious that Sony managed to screw up so bad with the 3D sets. I mean they are extremely late to market and are even using RealD Crystal Eyes for their ASGs. How the hell can a company screw up that bad after all that is insane.

Sony is not nearly as late to maket as the content providers.

Unless you're one of the rare soccer fans in the US, there isn't anything to view in 3D except for various demo discs.

If Sony had no 3D sets available until next year, I'd consider them late to the party. As it is, they are just not the 1st to arrive.
post #6 of 29
Sony certainy did not expect their 3D sets to be late to market since if they did they would not be one of the sponsers of broadcasting world cup games in 3D.
post #7 of 29
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Originally Posted by walford View Post

Sony certainly did not expect their 3D sets to be late to market since if they did they would not be one of the sponsors of broadcasting world cup games in 3D.

Exactly, they pretty much paid for the ESPN 3d coverage by themselves.
post #8 of 29
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Sony certainy did not expect their 3D sets to be late to market since if they did they would not be one of the sponsers of broadcasting world cup games in 3D.

Not necessarily.

They could have made the decision to sponsor the 3D World Cup anyway, even knowing they wouldn't have product to sell. It's hard to say.
post #9 of 29
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Not necessarily.

They could have made the decision to sponsor the 3D World Cup anyway, even knowing they wouldn't have product to sell. It's hard to say.

Yeah, agreed. Doesn't the normal HD feeds also have Sony as a sponsor and stuff? I know the 3D channel has Sony in the scoreboard.

I think it's funny that Samsung sponsors football and Sony is sponsoring futbol. lol
post #10 of 29
Sony is Shi te at 3D so is Samsung, Panasonic is the way, with there new Plasma Technology it walks all over LCD and LED technology, you want real and fast picture tech then Panasonic is the only choice, it as a set dont look as pretty as Sony or samsung , but picture quality and speed it makes up for by a whole long way
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

I Visited the sony store by me, They had a new demo disk, it was showing Open season, Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, toy story 3 trailer.

For me I was not impressed at all with the 3d. One the motion on screen starts moving fast, I can see the the flickering of the glasses. After 5 minutes of viewing I had to take them off, as I started getting eye strain.

Also there was noticeable ghosting on shots.

The fact that I can see the shutter going off on the glasses really bothered me.

Has anyone else had any experiences with this. I am looking at getting a new tv later this year. I have also seen the samsung 3d tv c7000 and was not impressed with that as well.

I feel the technology is being rushed out and there is a lot of quirks that need to be figured out.
post #11 of 29
Thankfully not everyone shares your opinion.
post #12 of 29
Obviously you are a fan of samsung or sony
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Thankfully not everyone shares your opinion.
post #13 of 29
Obviously you are a fan of samsung or sony
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

Thankfully not everyone shares your opinion.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by carllequesne View Post

Obviously you are a fan of samsung or sony

Wow, why do people jump to the fanboy conclusion so often, look at almostinsanes profile, he posts in all different threads. I saw the HX800 at a Sony Style last week and I think it looks great. We all have opinions, in my opinion you need to keep your opinion to yourself.
post #15 of 29
Ok fine i have my opinions, but i get customers coming into our shop all the time, and when they leave they have bought a Panasonic and Bose sound system. I have been in this industry for 10 years i know good quality products. I also work in the returns dept and panasonic and bose fail less, than all competitors
post #16 of 29
Would love to but breaks all company policies, I know all this through expierence, I worked at sony store for 6 years then moved to a Company, that sold All Brands, I know what i am on about dude, we deal in High end products, We Know our stuff, I send products for repair all the time, trust me panasonic and bose LASTS THE LENGTH OF TIME
post #17 of 29
P.S the screen in sony tv is Samsung or no sorry it might be Sharp now, they are gonna supply sonys screens now, Panasonic make there own , as do Samsung too be fair
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by carllequesne View Post

Would love to but breaks all company policies, I know all this through expierence, I worked at sony store for 6 years then moved to a Company, that sold All Brands, I know what i am on about dude, we deal in High end products, We Know our stuff, I send products for repair all the time, trust me panasonic and bose LASTS THE LENGTH OF TIME

One dude's experience in one or two stores does not represent the worldwide success or failure rate of electronics equipment. You are hardly qualified to make the statements you are making.

Trust you? We don't even know you. This is a science forum. Facts rule. You are welcome to your opinion, But to spout opinion as fact is just wrong.
post #19 of 29
I dont have time to research it i have job and family, Believe me i work with Engineer every day, I know u are in dissmisable mode dude
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One dude's experience in one or two stores does not represent the worldwide success or failure rate of electronics equipment. You are hardly qualified to make the statements you are making.

Trust you? We don't even know you. This is a science forum. Facts rule. You are welcome to your opinion, But to spout opinion as fact is just wrong.
post #20 of 29
Sorry but i know what i am taking about is real, i dont lie if u ugly and ask me if u ugly i will say yes, i dont lie i cant tell the Lie, i speak my mind and dont lie. i have upset alot of people because of it, but that is me. I know my Tech due
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I dont have time to research it i have job and family, Believe me i work with Engineer every day, I know u are in dissmisable mode dude
post #21 of 29
Most of us just have our personal experience to guide us as to brands. Some have worked in the industry at the retail level, and have some actual experience with dealing with customer issues.

I appreciate hearing from those and don't feel that spreadsheets, lie detector tests, or the administration of truth serum is needed to take a person's experience into consideration.

Panasonic makes some fine products. They have also made some real stinkers.

Same with Samsung and Sony.

Anybody buying a 3D set today should learn as much about the sets as is practical, including how manufacturer's stack up in the area of customer service. Here, Panasonic has a pretty solid reputation, followed by Samsung. Sony seems to have no service and treats their customers like an enemy.

In the end, you'll end up with the set that has the features you want and gives what you perceive to be the best pq. Eyes all differ. And the connection between the eyes and the brain of the viewer is the biggest variable in determining pq.
post #22 of 29
I know u taking the pee but it ok we in the know, know you want cra ppy, last 5 mins good`s, it is ok ,your choice.enjoy products with one year warranty
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

"dude"
"Trust me"
"believe me"
and
"i work with Engineer"



I am convinced. I am going to scrap all my equipment today and replace it all with Panasonic. Sorry I doubted you.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by carllequesne View Post

Ok fine i have my opinions, but i get customers coming into our shop all the time, and when they leave they have bought a Panasonic and Bose sound system. I have been in this industry for 10 years i know good quality products. I also work in the returns dept and panasonic and bose fail less, than all competitors

Guys, he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about if he actually thinks Bose makes good speakers (sound quality, not "fail less"). If they suck from the beginning who cares if they fail or not...
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by peter0328 View Post

Guys, he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about if he actually thinks Bose makes good speakers (sound quality, not "fail less"). If they suck from the beginning who cares if they fail or not...

+1 I totally agree, this guy has no idea what he it talking about, he cant even formulate correct sentences.
post #25 of 29
Yeah but he work with engineer everyday! You dissmisable mode dude!
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by carllequesne View Post

you want real and fast picture tech then Panasonic is the only choice,

All of the current generation 3D TVs change the content for each eye at 1080p 60fps. The fact that the Panasonic Plasma uses a 10 refreshs of each frame a second to increase brightness which it calls 600Hz subframe is not relevent.
post #27 of 29
I went and saw the HX800 at the sony store today. I thought the picture looked fantastic. The 3d seemed to have more depth than the samsung (I had 3 PN50C7000's that failed for different reasons, had flicker/flashing on the glasses).

It felt on par with the Panasonic 3d. Just more pleasing to look at.

As well, it has the 2d to 3d conversion, which is something *I* want. Panasonic doesnt have it, otherwise I would have gotten one first.

But I watched for about 15 minutes, saw no flickering/flashing.. 3d was great.. pic was great.

I'd say the person who posted about the 3d looking bad, perhaps the set wasnt set up right or the glasses were out of juice or not on. Something probably wasn't right.
post #28 of 29
Having viewed four 3D LCD TV's I personally find the Sony to be my preference despite the fact Panasonic 3D was the best the fault with it is that it lacks the ability to present 2D to 3D and the fact the screen is dramatically DIMMER than the Sony - peak brightness/white is pathetic on the Panasonic as tested recently on televisioninfo.



Admittedly I can't stand Panny plasma having owned one - as my sunny room destroyed it during daytime hours and it was a mirror at night. However, the VT25 I saw was the first plasma I observed that had more of an LCD matte surface. As much as they can try an flaunt black levels - they are certainly not Black in a bright sunny room and the WHITES are dirty, dull and urinated look on their whites. If I were to buy a plasma at all it would be this one for it's 3D but I find the Sony to be an overall better panel.

My personal experience has been excellent with both Sony and Sharp TV's as I own two of each and never had a single service repair needed with the oldest at 7.5 yrs for my Sony 23" Kitchen Counter LCD and my 57" Sharp at 4 yrs - and the Panasonic lasted one week as I could not tolerate it's deficiencies in my Sunny Room and got rid of it and would never make that mistake again.

If you have a SonyStyle check out the HX909 or HX800 --- the 3D was quite good and especially the gaming - the least impressive display content was the soccer IMO while the USC/Buckey game was quite interesting showing the potential for football as the camera work is much closer than in Soccer but the video gaming was AWESOME!

While some reviewers mentioned Blue Blacks all I saw were deep blacks with excellent depth of field especially when displaying star fields = WoW factor. If you prefer plasma by all means the Panny should be great for you but if you prefer LCD Sony is a winner IMO as it's far brighter and brightness counts with 3D and the glasses that are used.

carllequesne?

Are you communicating from another language/country - your communication comes off as stunted or stuttered and you really shouldn't come in here with an attitude of arrogance and knowing everything as this forum is loaded with actual Engineers and highly skilled members that work in the field professionally or as a hobbie but coming in and insulting doesn't help and if you have nothing to learn from the rest of us why are you here? Share but don't belittle others sharing as it' sunlikely you know anyone's background here to make such judgements. Nobody knows it all here.
post #29 of 29
I've seen the Sony, Samsung and Panasinic 3D T.V.s.

Sony - good 3D, but poor 2D to 3D conversion in low, medium or high mode.

Samsung plasma - the 58" I saw had great blacks when the source was a USB stick and very weak blacks when the source was a 3D BD player (??). The 2D to 3D conversion is the best I've seen so far.

Panasonic - best overall image, but no 2D to 3D conversion so its off the list.
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