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post #121 of 188
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It's difficult to say since no remote has it all, especially for less than a few hundred dollars. I've used JP1 remotes since long before harmony existed and still prefer them. They are much more powerful and flexible than harmony and very cheap, but they aren't for everyone since they have no LCD and require some skill to program. URC remotes are fantastic, but are generally more expensive than harmony, and it can be difficult to obtain the software. Xsight remotes are better in some ways, worse in others. They are much cheaper than harmony and have no macro limitations, many more devices, RF, and re-arranging activities is no problem. But they lack harmony's state tracking. That's not a problem for me since all my devices have discrete input and power commands (or reasonable workarounds). Personally, my family uses Xsight, and I use JP1. There are reports the Xsight has been discontinued in the US, but I haven't seen any real proof yet.

I used to be a big harmony fan before logitech ruined them (like removing macros, severely limiting device count in low end models, destroying the ability to re-arrange activities, removing pronto hex import, etc.). I do keep a harmony for access to their code database, but not for everyday use.

A lot of people like iOS or Android based remotes. I'm personally not a fan (don't like touch screens or want to risk damaging such an expensive device). Of course high-end remotes like RTI and Crestron are great too but in a totally different league.

If you're happy with harmony besides the activity order, I recommend you keep what you've got. Without significant extra cost, every other option will involve compromises.
post #122 of 188
hi guys

is possible to have the discrete code fot toshiba ZL1 for

TV (DTT)
HDMI1
HDMI2
HDMI3
HDMI4


I tryed with those but not work ( sorry for my bad english , i'm italian )




Protocol=nec1 Device=64 TV setup code 0156 (10156), 1156, 1256, 1356, 1656, 0765, 0767, 0845, 1711

Device Code: 64 Function: 35 EFC: 219 HDMI 1
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94

Device Code: 64 Function: 36 EFC: 212 HDMI 2
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94

Device Code: 64 Function: 37 EFC: 216 HDMI 3
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94


ANOTHER HDMI3 ?
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94




Device Code: 64 Function: 57 EFC: 025 HDMI 4
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94

Device Code: 64 Function: 61 EFC: 024 Ant/Cable
0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AC 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0689 0157 0056 0015 0E94
post #123 of 188
I recently won a hardfought battle with my Harmony One that had been raging for some time. For some reason, some of the remote codes for my Pioneer VSX-1017 were missing from the Harmony One IR Learn database list when I added the VSX-1017 reciever/device to my Harmony One family room remote. The original remote for the VSX-1017 did not even have the buttons for one of the main inputs (VIDEO/GAME) or A/B speaker switching! Thanks Pioneer! Therefore I could not even do an IR Learn from the original remote for them. One of the inputs "SIRIUS" (to which my off air TV antenna audio is connected) was on the original remote as a shift+Sirius input, sharing a button with another main input. The sift+Sirius button(s) worked just fine on the original remote but was not in the IR Learn database of the Harmony One and the IR Learn never took when trying to put it into the Harmony One via the original remote. Probably a delay issue with the "shift", but I could never resolve it.

After just living with the fact that I would just have to switch speakers using the button on the front of the reciever and two activities would not go to their desired input on power-up (using "Input-Next" until the desired input came on), I had an epiphany. Since the IR Learn function on the Harmony One didn't seem to be working much, I started thinking about adding codes directly to the database which would be pretty much fool proof as long as the correct code was in place. There are complicated ways to do it via software, etc. and the "Zapper" thing on the My Harmony member's website never displayed the "Hex Code" input option like it was supposed to (I had the hex codes for the inputs) to convert and add the codes to the database manually. Logitech wanted money to do it for me since my 90 day "honeymoon" period was over. The challenge was on.

I had 3 codes I needed to make my AV receiver 100% functional with the Harmony One. All other devices in my activities were being controlled just fine with the exception of the Wii which is RF and I can't justify getting the RF remote just to turn a little box on and off. I don't play Wii that much anyway and the Wii RF remote is needed to control the thing anyway much less than to turn the Wii box on or off.

I then found a website that sold nothing but new and used remotes (they're all over the internet) and had good pictures of the remote for sale. I began perusing remotes of similar Pioneer AV receiver models because I knew their remotes would probably work for most of the inputs on my receiver. I located one remote for a VSX-1022 that had the "Input Video/Game" button and the "Input Sirius" button on it (dedicated with no "shift" required). Then I found a remote for the VSX-1018 that had a "Speakers" button on it.

Rather than buy the OEM remotes and attempt an IR Learn I knew probably wouldn't work, I simply added the recievers/devices to my family Room Harmony One account, updated the remote, verified the code was in the device's IR Learn database list, verified the touch screen buttons worked on the reciever for the missing inputs and speaker toggle issue, renamed them RECIEVER 2 (VSX-1022) and RECIEVER 3(VSX-1018), re-did the activity setup for the activities missing the inputs by substituting reciever 2 or 3 for the original reciever, assigned the speaker toggle button for the activities that needed speaker toggling (we like to listen to the radio tuner or satellite music on the back patio speakers), and updated the remote. Verfified EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT!

I don't know why I didn't have this revelation years ago, but better late than never. This probably isn't new for most Logitech officianados on here but I feel pretty sweet right now. Didn't have to buy the original remotes, didn't have to pay Logitech to add the codes to my account, and everything works great. Hope this helps someone! biggrin.gif
post #124 of 188
^ ^ ^
That's good thinking! That approach could be useful in many other situations.
The Harmony has it's limitations in programming, but with some sharp thinking like that you can pretty much get it to perform the way you need it to.
Good job! Thanks for sharing and welcome to the forum.
post #125 of 188
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Also realize that all harmony models from the past couple of years won't do sequences at all. This includes the 900, 1100, 600, 650, 700, OnePlus and Link. The 600, 650, 700 and OnePlus will do them if you use the old 7.7 stand-alone software rather than the MyHarmony.com software. On remotes that can't do sequences, the raw learn trick can get you 3 commands or so in one depending on the signal complexity, your target device and your skill.
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I used to be a big harmony fan before logitech ruined them (like removing macros, severely limiting device count in low end models, destroying the ability to re-arrange activities, removing pronto hex import, etc.). I do keep a harmony for access to their code database, but not for everyday use.

Epic thread...thanks for that first of all. Reading through all of this thread and elsewhere, it basically seems like the Harmonys are on the decline, and the newer versions (especially the current most expensive model the 900) are essentially worthless for us power users with the lacking macro support. The lower end models seem even more atrocious with only being able to be programmed with myharmony.com.

So are there any Harmony models actually worth getting? The 650 and 700 seem like the only choices worth a damn as they still support the standalone software, have macro support, color screens (if that's your thing), and support a decent number of activities/devices. Is that everyone else's assessment as well?

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It's difficult to say since no remote has it all... I've used JP1 remotes... They are much more powerful and flexible than harmony and very cheap, but they aren't for everyone since they have no LCD and require some skill to program.

Cost or skill to program isn't really a problem for me personally, but the barrier to entry seems really high. Google Harmony and you go right to the website and can buy the remotes...how do you even get started with any of the alternatives? For JP1, you have to read a ton of stuff and make your own connector cable and all this and that... It took me a long time searching just to find a JP1 remote for purchase new (finally found RCA RCRP05BR on Amazon). Although it seems like you need to get one anyway if you want to use hex codes for your Harmony, as learning from the JP1 as suggested in this thread seems by far the easiest way to accomplish that feat. Does the Python script from earlier in the thread work for adding hex codes to Harmony? Is there really no way to add them yourself in the software or on members.harmonyremote.com? I guess I like the look and feel of the Harmony, and I like the simplicity of its use for my family, but I also need it to be able to do what needs to be done.

It seems like options are "go Harmony, be careful about models you buy, and deal with the limitations" or "take a ton of time to acquire and properly configure a JP1 (or other) remote". Both seem likely to yield a remote that "does everything I want", but who knows which path is easier. =)
post #126 of 188
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AFAIK the python script still works for batch loading pronto hex into a harmony.

You can build a JP1 cable if you want, or you can just buy one already made, then download the software and go. It's a lot easier than it used to be. There are at least 100 JP1 remote models, so you don't necessarily have to get the RCA. If you have cable tv, you probably already own a JP1 remote and don't know it. Check the chart in my signature to confirm.

I've personally given up on harmony, but they apparently work fine for people with limited requirements. It is sad to see such a great device destroyed by its own creators. I see iOS and Droid devices quickly taking a lot of harmony's market share as Logitech blindly keeps cutting features.
post #127 of 188
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

AFAIK the python script still works for batch loading pronto hex into a harmony.

Well that's excellent news.
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You can build a JP1 cable if you want, or you can just buy one already made, then download the software and go. It's a lot easier than it used to be. There are at least 100 JP1 remote models, so you don't necessarily have to get the RCA. If you have cable tv, you probably already own a JP1 remote and don't know it. Check the chart in my signature to confirm.

I don't have cable TV. Despite there being 100 models, it seems like very few of them are actually available anywhere. The list in your sig is last updated 2010, and practically none of them are readily available online from a reputable source. I don't really want to buy an old used probably-broken remote on ebay from some guy with no reviews. Several of the OFAs are on Amazon, but in extremely limited quantities and only from Amazon Marketplace sellers. There's a ton of newer OFA remotes with OAR-prefixed model names, but who knows if they're actual JP1 and what support exists for them if any. Quick searches on a few of the model numbers turn up blanks or old posts saying they don't have the connectors. Kind of the same deal with the latest models actually visible on oneforall.com...the assumption is they're all JP1, but are they really...who knows...and even if they are, is it still the same protocol (not some new JP1.x or JPX) and will anything out there actually work for them. If the current state is "easier than it used to be", it must have been truly chaotic before. =)
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I've personally given up on harmony, but they apparently work fine for people with limited requirements. It is sad to see such a great device destroyed by its own creators. I see iOS and Droid devices quickly taking a lot of harmony's market share as Logitech blindly keeps cutting features.

I agree completely...very disappointing. For my particular situation, I'll probably go with one Harmony for the main room and some cheapo old JP1s for the other rooms (that have extremely limited control requirements). All I personally really need beyond extreme basics is the ability to program commands from pronto hex to send the switching signals to my matrix. That seems possible and not terrible with either choice.

Thanks for your response mdavej.
post #128 of 188
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I understand what you're saying about the availability of current JP1 models and the confusing interfaces. Although I maintain that list, there really hasn't been much to add in the past 2 years, maybe half a dozen. Many are OEM models that come with other equipment, hence no possibility of finding them retail. A few, like the often recommended RCA are available almost everywhere (best buy, frys, sears, radio shack, drug stores, grocery stores, etc.).

The problem is UEI, the maker of all JP1 remotes, keeps changing the interface, so we struggle to keep up. 10 years ago when the first JP1 remote was reverse engineered, all had the original JP1 interface (as we called it due to the label on the circuit board), then a few years later came, JP1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 2.0. Some are compatible with each other, some aren't. However, we do now have a universal interface. If you buy/build a JP1.3 cable and a JP1 EEPROM adapter, it will work with any JP1 type of remote. Unless you already have a very old remote, you will never use the JP1 EEPROM adapter, so a JP1.3 is sufficient for all modern remotes, including JP1.4 and 2.0..

None of this really belongs in the Harmony Tips thread. So I encourage you to visit the JP1 forums and ask questions or join the discussion there. We'll be glad to answer. Also check out our Wiki if you are interested. If you have questions about a specific model, we can likely answer immediately as we're constantly determining if new models are JP1 compatible. We can usually tell by the styling or the code lists without even opening the battery door.

To address your immediate problem, you should really look at what user Barf is doing in the JP1 forums with his IrpMaster program. It will import, generate, analyze and transmit pronto hex to many devices. In that case you don't need a remote at all, just an IR interface. For signal capture an analysis, the IRWidget designed and sold by one of our members is an excellent tool. If you ever want to use an actual remote, JP1 is the cheapest, most powerful solution, though not the easiest.
post #129 of 188
Holy god, logitech is removing macros on newer models? Have the harmony developers actually given a reason why? If that's the case, no more harmony remotes for me. Not having macros isn't a complete deal breaker, but they seem to be moving in the direction of TAKING AWAY control from the user, which defeats the whole point of getting a harmony IMO.
post #130 of 188
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Don't panic just yet. Remember harmony has 2 types of macros - activities and sequences. Only sequences have been removed from all new models. There are ways to get around that in all models except the Link, 200, 300, 900 and 1100 by using the old software. While having no sequences is bad for advanced users, most others won't notice.
post #131 of 188
Sequences were what I was worried about, as I do use them occasionally. Moreover, I got a 300 for my workout room and the online software is horrid. It sounds like Logitech is trying to move all remotes to that software. That would be awful.
post #132 of 188
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In that case, it is time to panic. All their new remotes use the new software, which I agree is horrid. A few years during the beta of myharmony, I reported every issue and missing feature in great detail and received responses from the developers that all those features that were dropped from the old software would never be added to myharmony. At the time I didn't really believe it, but years later they've done little more than window dressing. So it looks like the end of the line.
Edited by mdavej - 8/21/12 at 7:52pm
post #133 of 188
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In that case, it is time to panic. All their new remotes use the new software, which I agree is horrid. A few years during the beta of myharmony, I reported every issue and missing feature in great detail and received responses from the developers that all those features that were dropped from the old software would never be added to myharmony. At the time I didn't really believe it, but years later they've done little more than window dressing. So it looks like the end of the line.
I'm still able to use to old software with mine, and thats why I'm still using my goood old 688 I bought many years ago. It still works fine and does everything I want. I will probably never buy another Harmony again if they continue on the path they're on now.
post #134 of 188
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If you buy/build a JP1.3 cable and a JP1 EEPROM adapter, it will work with any JP1 type of remote. Unless you already have a very old remote, you will never use the JP1 EEPROM adapter, so a JP1.3 is sufficient for all modern remotes, including JP1.4 and 2.0..

Good to know.
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None of this really belongs in the Harmony Tips thread. So I encourage you to visit the JP1 forums and ask questions or join the discussion there. We'll be glad to answer. Also check out our Wiki if you are interested.

I agree, I have, and I will.

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While having no sequences is bad for advanced users, most others won't notice.

This is the real problem...such things cut deep to a lot of us, but most don't even know what they've lost.
post #135 of 188
Hi all. I just purchased a Harmony 700 remote, and then -- trying to do a bit of research on how to use it (I've never had a universal remote before), I came across this thread. I have read several posts, and I'm really confused at this point.

Since I don't even have the remote in-hand yet, a basic question. When I go to program this thing, should I be using software (7.7), as opposed to myharmony.com? That's what it sounds like is the case, from what little I've read. Will this 7.7 software come with my remote, or do I have to get it elsewhere (or, can I create an account at members.harmonyremote.com -- which seems to be another preferable way to program, as opposed to myharmony.com?)

Thanks,

Steve
post #136 of 188
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7.7 and members share the same login, config and drivers. They are interchangeable. Myharmony is totally independent. If you have looked at the differences and decide the 7.7 is best for you, download it from the logitech site, install it and create an account (or several if you want), then use either 7.7 or members for config. I use both all the time. You can use myharmony as well with a different login. Just realize your members/7.7 account and myharmony account share no data, so each will overwrite the other on your remote. You can always go back to one or the other at any time.

It's a tough call because myharmony is the latest, best looking and most user friendly, but woefully feature poor. The 7.7/members software is old and clunky but far more powerful. So each is a compromise. I've personally chosen to put up with the old stuff to get the functionality I need. If your needs are simple, then myharmony may suit you just fine and will be easier to set up and use.
post #137 of 188
Where can you safely download 7.7?
Edited by jimsfield - 11/10/12 at 7:35pm
post #138 of 188
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post #139 of 188
mdavej --

Thanks for the very clear explanation; right now my thinking might be that since I didn't even know what a "Harmony" was, until a week or so ago, that I would fall under the category of a "basic user." As such, I might be tempted to go the "user friendly" route and try myharmony.com, and at some point, if I need "more," I can always change over to the 7.7 or the "members" site.

Before I choose this course of action, though, I'm having a tough time figuring out if there is anything "obvious" that I'll be unable to do using myharmony that, within short order, I'll be kicking myself and saying "WHY didn't I go the other route." So, would it be possible for you, in brief summary form, to point out to a clueless universal remote newbie some common things that are "missing" in terms of capability at myharmony that would crop up for even a non-sophisticated user in a fairly simple home theater? In my case, all I'll need to control are a few components -- my projector, A/V receiver, Blu-ray player, Directv HD box, and one Lutron IR remote dimmer switch. No "old" equipment, nothing real sophisticated -- so perhaps "myharmony" might work out OK for me, at least at first?

Steve
Edited by steveg66 - 11/11/12 at 12:41pm
post #140 of 188
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Example: with myharmony you will be able to make a Watch Movie activity that turns on your tv, player, A/V and set the proper inputs with one button press. But if you want to make the Pause button pause your movie AND bring up the house lights (lutron) with a single button press, you can only do that with 7.7 (sequence capability). Another example: you want to make a Watch Netflix activity that not only turns on all your devices but also goes straight to Netflix. It's only possible to add that extra Netflix command with 7.7. You can of course press Watch Movie then press the Netflix button, but 7.7 can put all those steps into the activity.
post #141 of 188
Thanks, mdavej...

I think I'm seeing some of what you are talking about. Would it be correct to say that with myharmony, I would be able to program my remote such that I can "switch device" to any device I have, and control that device individually; also, I'll be able to use the few buttons at the top of the remote such as "Watch a Movie" to program a series of commands. However, aside from those buttons, the ability to execute several commands in sequence is limited. I would have to control devices individually much more often, as opposed to being able to sequence commands. HOWEVER, if using 7.7 software, there is much more flexibility to execute "custom" commands -- building your own sequences of commands to customize the remote to a specific setup or situation. Is that roughly correct?

Steve
post #142 of 188
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Almost. In myharmony, you can still add as many individual commands as you want to the screen in an activity, so no need to switch devices to send any number of single commands to different devices. You put everything you need on the screen in each activity. The difference is each of those buttons is limited to just a single command, rather than a string of them (besides the main activity buttons like Watch Movie). So it's just the automated part (extra commands in the activity macros or the sequence macros) that you'll be missing.

It wouldn't be so complicated had you not discovered harmony at the end of their temporary insanity. All remotes prior to the past 2 years could do everything. And the newest models now like the Touch can do everything. It's only the 200/300/600/650/700/900/1100 that can't when you use the myharmony software. I expect all models from here on to be fully capable like the old ones.
post #143 of 188
OK...I think I'm getting it. With myharmony, I can still set up an "activity," that will show up on my screen, but I'll have to utilize multiple presses of a button to execute each command in my "activity," as opposed to one single "button push" to execute several commands at once. The only "one button for several commands at once" option will be to use the buttons up top (watch a movie, etc.) While not as "elegant," I think I will try the myharmony programming and see how that goes, at least at first.

Temporary insanity -- that's funny! Wonder why they had a two-year hiatus where they made things so much more complicated? Did Logitech take over a smaller company that used to build the Harmony remotes?

Steve
post #144 of 188
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That's still not quite right. I guess I haven't been clear. Your activity will run every step automatically with one button press. Any commands besides what's in your activity will require separate button presses. For example, press Watch Movie, one button press turns everything on and selects all the proper inputs. But to turn on subtitles, for example, you'll still need to press several buttons to navigate menus and pick the subtitles function. With 7.7, you could put all those caption steps on a single button.

All these sequences of steps are just macros. Universal remotes have been doing this for nearly 20 years. So it's nothing new. What is new is that logitech bought a great idea and decided ultimately to remove some macro capabilities everyone else has had forever and to call them different names (activities and sequences). Harmony dominates the market now because they make the programming so easy and have a great database of commands built by their users.

I think the hiatus was simply an attempt to save money. But it turned out to be a bad move. They lost many customers, including me, and sales took a big hit. Now that they've come to their senses, I hope they will start making some good products again. The new Touch, while flawed, is at least a step in the right direction.

Anyway, we can talk this to death, but it will be immediately obvious when you set up your remote.
Edited by mdavej - 11/12/12 at 6:51pm
post #145 of 188
Sounds good, mdavej. You are right -- things will be much more clear when I get the unit in my hand. I just didn't want to screw up and program it using the "wrong" method. But, it sounds like myharmony will work for me, initially, and then if I want to do more than what it allows, I can re-do things with the software.

Thanks much for your help! If I can't figure something out AFTER I get the unit and get it programmed, I'll post it then. Meanwhile, I really appreciate all your help!

Steve
post #146 of 188
mdavej --

I just saw in another post where you suggested the "Next Generation" extender for someone who was using an RF-type extender. Knowing very little about "extenders" at this point, is this one that might also work well for my situation, if, after I get my remote and get used to it, I may want to try an extender as we had been discussing?

Steve
post #147 of 188
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Sorry, but those tend not to work very well on current harmony models. Results are mixed, so you might get it to work, but many haven't, from what I've read. Look into Logitech's IR Extender system and see if that will do what you want. Otherwise if you really think you need RF, you should go for an RF remote like the 900. The advantage of RF is it requires no aiming. But it is expensive, generally. IR repeaters/extenders on the other hand, require aiming at the base which then relays signals via RF to IR blasters placed at your devices.
post #148 of 188
Got it, thanks!

Steve
post #149 of 188
mdavej -- I've been reading through the Harmony 700 thread, and things are becoming a bit more clear. I got my remote last night, I charged it overnight, and now I'm ready to start setting it up. Two questions...

One -- I am thinking about trying the software, vs. myharmony at this point, based on all I read on the Harmony 700 thread. So, I tried to set up an account at members.harmonyremote, and in doing so it said I have "old software" and asked me if I wanted to install a "software upgrade" (which, since I actually have NO software loaded, I answered yes). When doing this, it prepared me to download the "7.5" software build. However, talk here has been about 7.7 software. Is this just a mistake on the harmonyremote website (and if I download the "software upgrade" it actually will download the 7.7 version), or, would it truly download 7.5, such that I really need to first download 7.7 from elsewhere, and THEN go in and set up my account?

Two -- until I decide on whether to get an IR or RF repeater system, am I correct in thinking that I will have to, for now, set up my ceiling-mounted projector as a "device," so that when I want to watch TV or watch a movie or whatever, I will have to turn on the projector as a "device" FIRST? Then, after doing so, I could then hit my "watch TV" button? Assuming I'm correct with this thinking, then I presume that my "watch TV" button would be programmed NOT to include any projector commands, but instead would run commands only for the components co-located in my rack (i.e. the "watch TV" button should be set up to turn on A/V receiver, select HDMI input 1 on the receiver, and turn on DirecTV box). Then likewise, I would set up my Lutron IR dimmer as a device, and I could turn off the lights that way -- after executing the "watch TV" activity?

Steve
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Don't attempt to use members site until you download the 7.7 software linked in one of my earlier posts. When you use members, you must ignore all errors and keep clicking through and login at least twice.

Since you have a 700, RF is not an option. I would set the proj and light devices power settings on the harmony to leave the power always on, then add power buttons and other commands to your watch tv customized buttons. That way there is no need to leave the activity and use device mode at all. Your way will work, but my way is much easier. The IR is pretty powerful on the remote, so I'd at least try to use a mirror or something to hit everything at once.
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