Official LG XXLD450 Thread - Page 18

hahaha good idea use the headphone jack for audio out, i was just pondering this dilemma with my new tv , thanks

Has anyone tried using the Re iPhone Universal Remote with this TV? I was thinking of getting this for my setup throughout the house.

I purchased the TV a couple of days ago and the picture looks very good! However, I hear a buzzing noise from the back of the TV when the volume is low or when using the TV as a monitor. I have an older Olevia LCD in the bedroom and I can barely hear any buzzing from it. If I giggle the HDMI1 cable a little I can alter the sound somewhat. Anyone come across this? It's kind of annoying!

Many electronics are known to have a humm or buzz. My receiver does it, my plasma i just bought does it etc.

If it is convenient for you, would you mind to do a few tests on your 37" 450 and see if it properly passes 4:4:4 and such with a computer in order to compare your results with rawashdeh? It would probably determine if infact the 37 version of the 450 is the odd ball of the 3?

Im still holding off on buying the 37 if it doesnt do it properly, and will probably just get the 42 if it comes down to it.

Thanks enphenate! Yeah, I certainly have had electronics that made humming/buzzing noise, however this TV is louder than all the others.

Based on the product code, I have an S-IPS panel- I would be glad to perform the 4:4:4: test, if it's not too complicated.

Hmm it might settle down after a while, if not i would maybe return it and see if a new one produces less noise.

Here is a link that refers to the test method!
Thanks a ton!

Those are nice pictures, What camera did you use by the way?

I am starting to really consider picking up a nice camera on sale this christmas to get on the those high clarity pixel shots.

I used a Nikon D90 50mm f1.8 and and extension tube. Though I have no macro rails so focus is not as sharp as I'd like, meh.
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Firmware? C'mon someone should have an idea where to get it. Mine is 3.00.25.

So, do I simply save Colmino's file and display it on the screen using Paint? If so, it certainly looks like zoran0909's photo- I did take some pictures and will post them tonight (though they are not as clear as zoran0909's).

Some photos: 37LD450

So, I got my 32LD450 today. I checked the box and the label thru the grill. It's an IPS. Awesome display. I calibrated it but decided the whites look to yellow or dull for me w/ the calibration. I am gonna try and play around eihthe pq settings but for now, it's on standard mode for picture. The display is flawless. Works wonderful w/ ps3, pc and over the air HD. The SD looks okay.

How does the LD450 compare to the S-IPS LH30 model? I had a 42" LH30 -- which I loved. The one complaint I have was that text in the color red was fuzzy.

I had to sell that LH30, but I'm looking for something --that'll be at the very least -- as good as that LH30.

Thanks! Also, does the LD450 have issues with red text being a bit blurry?

Thanks for the pics. Your pics definitely show 4:4:4 support, so the 37" seems to be okay. rawashdeh must have a dud display, or there's something fishy with his ati card. Could you post your full product code and manufacture date?

That red-blurry-text issue you had was due to lack of 4:4:4 support. Since the LD450 supports 4:4:4, you won't have that issue anymore

From owner opinions in this thread, there's three common weaknesses of the LD450. 1) black levels aren't that great -- 0.20 cd/m^2 seems to be the best it can get. 2) Some people experience a "skin tones too yellow" problem. And 3) Some minor backlight bleed on the screen perimeter.

All three weaknesses are completely subjective to your own eyeballs. For me, I hardly see these weaknesses unless I make an effort to seek them out.

Is anyone aware of the differences between the 32LD450 and the 32LD460?

Woot Looks like im going to return my Panasonic 42U25 for the 37LD450 tomorrow

So, when streaming video content from, say, Netflix the movie is choppy. However, when I stream Youtube video, like 1080P movie trailers, they look perfect. My DSL speed is 4Mbps, which should fast enough. Is there a setting on my computer or the TV that I should modify to get smooth video? Don't see this with Directv.

I find that to be the case as well.

I can vouch for 1 and 2, though my LD450 was bleed free.

You can achieve middle of the road 0.1cd/m2, but only if you dim the backlight substantially and sacrifice whites - which I initially thought I was okay with, but after some time spent wallowing in gray-white land, I opted out.

The yellow skin tones, I can also attest to that. It's easiest to eliminate them in Game mode with the skin tone specific setting, but you can also mess with red tint to introduce a little pink if you want to stay under Expert. I also used my Nvidia CP "Hue" slider to tidy things up. I wasn't crazy about either solution, as tint and hue both mess with overall PQ. I never did finish my 10-point grayscale calibration, so I honestly can't say whether doing so would've eliminated this particular issue.

Weird...I have problems with blurry red text on coloured backgrounds (red on black is bad). I have a 32LD450 W and have confirmed it's an IPS (label through the grille, looking at the panel info in service mode, knuckle test)...

I don't have a camera sharp enough to confirm 4:4:4 or not...I just thought it was bad calibration settings.

Blurry red text on black background is almost certainly a 4:4:4 issue, assuming of course the majority of other text color combos display properly.

The game Prototype is a great example. The menus are all red on black. The game itself will look decent enough on a set that fails 4:4:4, but the menus will be damn near illegible.

Are you on an Nvidia card? If so, you might require an EDID fix. I did.

Nope, ATI 4830 w/ latest Catalyst driver on 64-bit Windows 7.

So i picked up the 37LD450 today. Full product id was 37LD450-UA.CUSWLH.

I tried taking photos with a 5 yrs old point and shoot digital camera and it didint really help.

So far all i have done is set the input to PC and out of the box it looks good. Could be better but i will need to sit down and configure it a bit.

I am about to do the EDID fix as my red font is a little fuzzy.

Is there anywhere i need to set 4:4:4 on the nvidia control panel or anything like that?

My TV is hooked up to my Onkyo SR707 via HDMI and from the Onkyo to my PC via HDMI.

Anyone else got recommendations? Im still not sure if this is the IPS or not.

The general consensus is you leave the HDMI port unlabeled. PC mode forces Edge Enhancer to High, which messes up text clarity.

Once you install the EDID fix, that should enable proper 4:4:4 rendering and fix your red text issue. And make sure you're in 'Just Scan' aspect ratio. Other than that, you should be good to go.

If you still experience fuzzy red text, try connecting your PC directly to your TV. If the problem still persists, then you're stricken with the same monster that rawashdeh has

Hmm to be honest right now PC mode looks better than the the expert 1 i setup without PC mode.

When i used the program to find the EDID, it detected my onkyo 707 receiver and not my TV. Do you think i need to plug in my TV directly to my PC first and get that ID to plug into the file?

Im going to have to play with it more after work tonight when i have time. I just really hope it does successfully pass 4:4:4. Going to have to wait once i have a good enough camera.

If PC mode works for your visual preference, go for it. I don't think enabling PC mode affects input lag nor 4:4:4 support, so it should be fine to leave it.

Assuming your receiver does a pure video signal passthrough, you should be ok with the EDID info from your receiver.

And assuming your eyes are decent, you can just get up real close to your TV and look at the 4:4:4 test lines. Making out individual pixels probably won't happen, but you'll at least be able to see if the red lines are crisp versus smudgy -- the latter meaning 4:4:4 not present.

With nothing better to do on a Friday night (), I decided to tinker around with my LD450's to see if I could replicate the "no 4:4:4" issue.

I dug out my old Windows Vista x64 with Nvidia 8800GT (DVI->HDMI, v178.24 drivers) computer and hooked it up to my LD450s. And it worked right off the bat and passed 4:4:4 beautifully; didn't even need to apply the EDID fix either. I used both HDMI1 and HDMI2 ports on the TV and image quality is identical.

I also upgraded my Win7 / ATI computer to the latest Catalyst drivers (v10.9 -> v10.11) and everything is fine too.

So... From what I've gathered so far -- panel sizes doesn't matter, firmware version doesn't matter, ati vs. nvidia doesn't matter (for me anyways), OS type doesn't matter, and we all have s-ips panel types -- so I have not the foggiest idea why some of you guys are failing 4:4:4.

The only thing left that I can think of is that you guys are using bad dvi->hdmi adapters and/or hdmi cables? These are the cables I use - link.

Other than that, LG must using some weird voodoo that I can't figure out

In case anyone is wondering, here are the manufacture date, firmware version, and full product code of my LD450s

1) June 2010 - 03.04.33
32LD450 - UA.CUSWLHO

2) July 2010 - 03.04.33
32LD450 - UA.CUSWLHO

3) May 2010 - 03.04.27
32LD450 - UA.CUSWLH (not a typo, this one doesn't have an 'O')

Thanks for the info guys,

I am really starting to believe I have a dud display here. The only thing I can think of and will try to confirm is wether the mod I have on my ATI driver is doing anything (was done to over-ride EDID limitation in windows 7 for my CRT). The CRT in clone mode is doing 85hz at 1080p , while the TV shows that it's doing 1080/60p I am starting to doubt it. My eyes indicate that the convergence dot test fails as well (could be however due to improper 4:4:4).

Will install a fresh copy of windows on one of the drives for testing (can't get rid of the mod even with driver sweeper, I believe I edited the registry) and try my luck again with hopefully one of these nice superzoom cameras.

Also wondering what shutter speed everyone uses to measure input lag. I used the highest one I could without making the numbers unreadable (I think ended up using 1/250). The reason I ask is for confirmation of the input lag to these screen. I know people like running 1/60 to match crt refresh rate and avoid scan line but that's too slow in my opinion for an accurate input lag measurment.

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What model number do you have?

Anyone have any optimal settings or any recommended image settings. Anything i should always have off or on etc?

Here are a few pictures i took with a really crappy old point n shoot cam. I will post more pictures once i get ahold of a better camera.

I cant really tell it is a pretty bad camera

My 32LD450 doesnt pass 4:4:4 with hdmi-hdmi cable. But...with DVI-HDMI cable it does.

enphenate: I have the 37LD450- Product Code: 37LD450-UA. CUSWLH- same as you. Manufactured in September 2010.