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post #10021 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. Audyssey is in play as long as it's enabled. The same EQ is used on the FL/FR speakers regardless of whether only 2.0 or 5.1 setup, rather the 2CH custom setup simply allows you to set the FL/FR to LARGE if you prefer and also to turn the sub OFF if you prefer as well.

I have cables/plugs and the surrounds coming today so this weekend will experiment the setups. Basically i will go from satellites to a real 5.1 with floorstanding fronts/surrounds and a center and a sub. So while i'd love to preserve the Audyssey setup for 5.1, i wasnt able to make it sound right when using for music (2.1). The sub was missing and the fronts sounded like the surrounds :-)))

Thanks all.
post #10022 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jabrown View Post

I am having networking issues after upgrading my 3311ci to the latest firmware. Immediately after the upgrade things appeared to work fine. Two days later, my AVR is not able to connect to my LAN. I tried DHCP and manually assigning an IP. Neither works now. The AVR displays a message saying that it is "Assigning Network" and then "No Network Connection". The projector displays "check config" after this happens. I tried a microprocessor and a network reset. Also tried the obvious......swapping cat5 ports, network cables, etc. Didn't help. The only thing that changed on my end was the firmware upgrade. Does this ring a bell? Everything else is working, just no internet access.mad.gif

Turned out to be a Id10t error. I guess when your patch panel looks like this, even the chief architect forgets how everything works eek.gif

post #10023 of 10436
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Originally Posted by kevinmscs View Post

I have cables/plugs and the surrounds coming today so this weekend will experiment the setups. Basically i will go from satellites to a real 5.1 with floorstanding fronts/surrounds and a center and a sub. So while i'd love to preserve the Audyssey setup for 5.1, i wasnt able to make it sound right when using for music (2.1). The sub was missing and the fronts sounded like the surrounds :-)))

Thanks all.

Were the FL/FR speakers reset to SMALL/80Hz as recommended after running Audyssey? With this configuration, there should be no reason to use the "custom" 2CH settings as the sub will work in either a 5.1 or Stereo mode.
post #10024 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

AFAIK, no, although you're not the first owner who has posted of this same experience. eek.gif

Other than simply educating him not to select the Airplay icon, another option would be to prevent him from accessing the home's wifi router by using the MAC address capability on the router, entering the MAC address of only those devices you want to access the router.
Well I don't want to resort to blocking him from my router. I've told him that he'll lose his iPod if he presses that button again and so far that works. Apple should have an option to turn off access to airplay.
post #10025 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Were the FL/FR speakers reset to SMALL/80Hz as recommended after running Audyssey? With this configuration, there should be no reason to use the "custom" 2CH settings as the sub will work in either a 5.1 or Stereo mode.

No i have not had time to play with it yet until this weekend. Will post results once done. Thanks
post #10026 of 10436
I have a stupid question. I want to listen to a local radio station on my AVR so I press the tuner button on the remote and it says HD Radio. So I scan to my station and nothing. How do I get standard FM Radio to play on this thing?

Thanks,
Jason.
Edited by jasontech2001 - 1/25/13 at 8:47am
post #10027 of 10436
I just moved my 3311 to my bedroom. I bought a 4311 and two more speakers for the living room. I am using the 3311 with a small Klipsch mini-system in the bedroom. When I ran the audyssey set-up, I got three phase warnings CC, SL, and SR. I have been connecting and reconnecting for the past two hours. If I reverse the red and black on the three botched channels, the channels pass without a phase warning. It doesn't seem to be the speakers. If I switch out the SR and SL speakers with the SBL and SBR speakers, I get the exact same phase warnings on the same channels until I switch the red and the black. I am 100% sure that the wires are hooked up to the receiver and the speakers correctly. Any help would be appreciated. When I plugged in the receiver in the bedroom, it asked to do a firmware update. I ran the update, and it finished without issue. I never had any problems in the living room. I certainly never had to reverse the red and the black.
post #10028 of 10436
As noted in your Owner's manual, as long as you have visually confirmed the speakers are wired correctly, you can ignore the warning and SKIP to the next speaker. smile.gif
post #10029 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jasontech2001 View Post

I have a stupid question. I want to listen to a local radio station on my AVR so I press the tuner button on the remote and it says HD Radio. So I scan to my station and nothing. How do I get standard FM Radio to play on this thing?

Thanks,
Jason.

If a station is broadcasting a digital signal, the AVR will attempt to play it first as it should provide better audio quality, otherwise, if it's not a strong enough signal it will revert back to and analog signal.
post #10030 of 10436
Dual Subs

Looks like I finally found a mate for my SV25-31PCi.
Since the 3311 doesn't have 2 sub woofer jacks can I just put a RCA splitter there and run 2 cables to achieve the 7.2 set up? I'm wondering how that might affect Audyssey when I rerun it after setting up the second sub?
Thanxxxxxxxxxxxx
post #10031 of 10436
As noted in the image below, the 3311CI does indeed have (2) sub pre-out jacks, although using a "Y" RCA splitter cable would accomplish the same goal. Ideally you'll want to to place each sub equidistant from the mic #1 position before running Audyssey.

post #10032 of 10436
Thanks JD.
I looked at the rear panel view in the manual before I posted but I guess I missed that. I feel like a dimwit!
post #10033 of 10436
No worries ... you're certainly not the first to have overlooked it. smile.gif
post #10034 of 10436
Hi guys. I'm looking to upgrade from a 2809 to a 3311. I need the 1.4 HDMI now and it seems like it would be a decent upgrade. There is a local guy I can get one from for dirt cheap so I'm wondering if it's worth it.

Thanks
post #10035 of 10436
You may be better served simply buying a dual HDMI 1.4 BDP for your 3D video as the audio quality will be similar.
post #10036 of 10436
Hi Guys,
I was starting to come down with a case of upgraditis and was thinking about upgrading my receiver. What originally prompted me to think about it was because I'd like to go to 9 or maybe even 11 speakers.
Anywho, I'm always hearing about adding amps to receivers and since mine (3311Ci) has the speaker outs I was wondering what would I need to use my AVR3311CI in an 11 or 9 speaker system?
I still have my old 3808 around, could I use that or do I have to use dedicated amps. I tried a search and couldn't find an answer.
And again, I appreciate the help. This forum and especially the BigWigs in it have always been unbelievably helpful, even when I've asked some pretty dumb questions
On a side note, if I did upgrade to a Denon 4520 or maybe Pioneer SC-68, Yamaha 3020 or Onkyo 3010 I know there's a little more power and a bunch of nicer features but do you think I'd notice an improvement in sound quality? Especially 2 channel stereo for music, I think that's where the Denons shine.
post #10037 of 10436
Doug -- the 3311 (as well as the follow-up 33xx models) can NOT run 9 or 11 channels, period. They provide the additional speaker posts to give you the flexibility to connect up to 9 or 11 speakers, but only 7 can ever be used at the same time. You can switch between the two "extra" speakers you want (surr.backs, wides, and heights) by picking different surround modes, but you can never engage more than 7 at a time. This is a limitation of the processing, not the channels of amplification.

The Denon 4520 (or cheaper, a 4311 if you can find one) would provide a definite improvement in sound quality due to the XT32 correction as well as the ability to run a 9 or 11 channel setup, with all channels active simultaneously.
post #10038 of 10436
OK, I'm confused.......again.
My 3311 can only do 7.2 speakers, even though it has 11 speaker outs, additional amps will NOT help......right?
However, the newer 9.2 AVR's will do 9.2 out of the box but I'd need additional amps to create an 11.2 speaker system.........is that right? If so, could I use my old 3808 as the extra amp or would I need to get a specialized amp?
Either way I have to upgrade my AVR and possibly add another amp (depending on weather I go 9 or 11) to add speakers, yes?
Thanks for explaining and BTW, if it wasn't for your Denon for Dummy guides, I wouldn't have gotten this far!!!!! Seriously they have been a great help.
post #10039 of 10436
You're not confused smile.gif what you wrote is exactly correct.

You could use the 3808 for extra amps but IMO it's a bit of a waste and it would be smarter to sell it and dedicate the funds into a real external amplifier if you want to expand to 11 channels. You don't NEED to but it would be a better way to do it.
post #10040 of 10436
Got it, thanx.
Now trying to decide on the new AVR will be fun.
post #10041 of 10436
Hello all, I am looking to upgrade my AVR from my current Onkyo 605. I've come across a refurbished Denon 3311 on accessories4less for what seems like a great price ($580 w/1yr warranty). I'm mostly looking for a well made AVR with good room calibration (wish I could afford one with XT32), preouts for adding an amp at some point, and good power. I believe I need more power because my front L&R towers are listed as 8ohm, but tested as 4. Another feature I'd like and am not sure id this AVR can do it is to be able to hook up an HDMI from my Directv HD DVR and have it pass audio and video through to the TV without turning on the whole system. I am also considering a new Onkyo 809 ($650) or a refurb Marantz 6005 ($600). My equipment is below (5.1 setup), please let me know your thoughts or recommendations. Thanks for your time.

Pioneer Elite 1150HD Plasma (768p, not 1080p)
Directv HR22 HD DVR
Pioneer BDP320 (will prob upgrade BDP to Sony 790 or Oppo 103 soon)
Infinity Primus 362 front towers
Infinity Primus 350 center
Infinity primus 250 rear towers
Velodyne DPS10 sub
post #10042 of 10436
As stated many times before on this thread, my Pandora has stopped working on the 3311CI. When I first heard this, I came back to this forum- you guys are great - and read that by mid December 2012 there would be a firmware update and all would be good with the world. I waited to that date and nothing was released. I checked back and they said the firmware will be released soon. No worries, I am patient.

Now the beginning of February, I go through the menus to do a search for firmware updates and it just freezes, it cannot connect to the server. Then I try to just download the firmware without checking for updates and it still hangs up. It kept saying it was trying to connect to the server. So I went out to dinner and let it still try to connect to the server. When I came back still no luck.

I hooked up my laptop via HDMI (V.Aux) and pulled up Pandora on Firefox. Problem solved – although not elegant. Is there any way to get Pandora/firmware updates working through the AVR again?

Thanks in advance.
post #10043 of 10436
The firmware was indeed released here in the USA on Dec 17 as confirmed by several other 3311 owners. If you are not in the USA, you'll have to check with your country's Denon rep to ask about the update schedule. Regarding the unit's network connection issues, you may want to try a different router/modem, or connecting directly to the modem/router if you are using a wireless connection or taking the unit to a neighbor's house and using his router/modem.
post #10044 of 10436
Hmmm.... I live in the US and my router hasn't given me any problems so far. I still am able to play stream music from my Windows7 laptop to the the AVR. I will some resets of the router and the modem and make sure everything is hooked up well. Anything else I should look for?
post #10045 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Sacr View Post

Every time I turn on my 3311 it comes up with a message "AirPlay upgrade available" , I push the enter it goes to another screen then tells me feature is unavailable etc.
what do I have to do to get airplay up and running. I've been to the denon website it just tells about the virtues of AirPlay, I've also done a search on this forum but the links provided don't work or send me to some other feature.

Any help appreciated, thankyou

I have the same issue. I don't need airplay. I don't have any Apple products and I don't have an iTunes account. How do I just tell it "I'm not interested" and get it to shut up instead iof displaying the useless (to me) upgrade screen every time I turn it on?
post #10046 of 10436
Yes. You can set the Upgrade Notification setting (p. 85 OM) to OFF.
post #10047 of 10436
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Originally Posted by johnmeyer View Post

I'm having problems with low volume. It was fine a month ago, but every day it seems like I have to turn up the volume further in order to get the same sound level. I'm now having to turn the volume up to 70-80 to get normal listening levels (I'm using the default volume scale). This is happening on all different inputs: streaming radio stations over the Internet; TV stations from my Uverse STB connected to the 3313CI via HDMI; and DVDs played from an old Pioneer DVD player connected via component (video) and optical (audio).

Any ideas?

I assume that one suggestion will be to do a reset. If I save my settings, do a reset, and then restore the settings, won't this potentially bring back the problem?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Do a reset. The restore will only bring back the problem if the problem is a setting. Which it doesn't sound like it is.

I'm having the same "low volume" issue. Tried a reset and also applied the most recent firmware upgrade, but the sound level output from the 3311ci is still significantly less than it used to be. I did not Restore after the reset. Seems about 1/3 to 1/2 sound level loss. Since I can still hear my kids, I'm pretty sure it's not my ears.

Anyone have a suggestion beyond reset?

Thanks.

EDIT - I went from a 5.1 setup to a FR, C, FL + sub setup and ran Audyssey, and the volume loss occurred a couple weeks after that.
post #10048 of 10436
This may be a "reach". but are both "DyEQ/volume" and "Dolby Volume" settings set to "off"?
post #10049 of 10436
What is the best way to try out a Aperion Verus Grand center on a pre-installed system on polk audio speakers.
Let me explained, I order a 3.0 set of Verus Grand from Aperion, I got the center today but the towers won't be here for another 3 weeks. I'm running monitor 70's and a CS2 right now.
So the question is should I turn off Audyssey and use a SPL meter to equal the levels of the new center to the existing configuration or run Audyssey setup on only one point. I don't want to do the setup twice when I get the towers.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for the help.
post #10050 of 10436
Hi all,

I recently purchased a new subwoofer and decided to go through the Audyssey recalibration process with the new Sub. Everything worked great and I've noticed a fairly significant improvement in the quality and consistency for the sound in all the speakers, not just the better base from the subwoofer. I was surprised as to the overall improvement and my question is, should a routine 'recalibration' of the sound system occur, say every 6 months? We've lost power several times over the past year (it's been well over a year since I set up the Audyssey calibration) and I'm curious if the receiver may have been reset after a complete power loss. I have a fairly good surge protector but that's about it. No UPS system is used. Is it possible that a complete power loss could have adversely affected the receiver settings?

Any suggestions or recommendations are most welcome. I'm considering having the entire system calibrated (just bought a Panasonic 55VT50 plasma) but I haven't committed to this yet.

Appreciate the comments.
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