The **Official** Denon 3311CI/ 991 Owner's Thread NO PRICE TALK - Page 335

I have cables/plugs and the surrounds coming today so this weekend will experiment the setups. Basically i will go from satellites to a real 5.1 with floorstanding fronts/surrounds and a center and a sub. So while i'd love to preserve the Audyssey setup for 5.1, i wasnt able to make it sound right when using for music (2.1). The sub was missing and the fronts sounded like the surrounds :-)))

Thanks all.

Turned out to be a Id10t error. I guess when your patch panel looks like this, even the chief architect forgets how everything works

Were the FL/FR speakers reset to SMALL/80Hz as recommended after running Audyssey? With this configuration, there should be no reason to use the "custom" 2CH settings as the sub will work in either a 5.1 or Stereo mode.

Well I don't want to resort to blocking him from my router. I've told him that he'll lose his iPod if he presses that button again and so far that works. Apple should have an option to turn off access to airplay.

No i have not had time to play with it yet until this weekend. Will post results once done. Thanks

I have a stupid question. I want to listen to a local radio station on my AVR so I press the tuner button on the remote and it says HD Radio. So I scan to my station and nothing. How do I get standard FM Radio to play on this thing?

Thanks,
Jason.
Edited by jasontech2001 - 1/25/13 at 8:47am

I just moved my 3311 to my bedroom. I bought a 4311 and two more speakers for the living room. I am using the 3311 with a small Klipsch mini-system in the bedroom. When I ran the audyssey set-up, I got three phase warnings CC, SL, and SR. I have been connecting and reconnecting for the past two hours. If I reverse the red and black on the three botched channels, the channels pass without a phase warning. It doesn't seem to be the speakers. If I switch out the SR and SL speakers with the SBL and SBR speakers, I get the exact same phase warnings on the same channels until I switch the red and the black. I am 100% sure that the wires are hooked up to the receiver and the speakers correctly. Any help would be appreciated. When I plugged in the receiver in the bedroom, it asked to do a firmware update. I ran the update, and it finished without issue. I never had any problems in the living room. I certainly never had to reverse the red and the black.

As noted in your Owner's manual, as long as you have visually confirmed the speakers are wired correctly, you can ignore the warning and SKIP to the next speaker.

If a station is broadcasting a digital signal, the AVR will attempt to play it first as it should provide better audio quality, otherwise, if it's not a strong enough signal it will revert back to and analog signal.

Dual Subs

Looks like I finally found a mate for my SV25-31PCi.
Since the 3311 doesn't have 2 sub woofer jacks can I just put a RCA splitter there and run 2 cables to achieve the 7.2 set up? I'm wondering how that might affect Audyssey when I rerun it after setting up the second sub?
Thanxxxxxxxxxxxx

As noted in the image below, the 3311CI does indeed have (2) sub pre-out jacks, although using a "Y" RCA splitter cable would accomplish the same goal. Ideally you'll want to to place each sub equidistant from the mic #1 position before running Audyssey.

Thanks JD.
I looked at the rear panel view in the manual before I posted but I guess I missed that. I feel like a dimwit!

No worries ... you're certainly not the first to have overlooked it.

Hi guys. I'm looking to upgrade from a 2809 to a 3311. I need the 1.4 HDMI now and it seems like it would be a decent upgrade. There is a local guy I can get one from for dirt cheap so I'm wondering if it's worth it.

Thanks

You may be better served simply buying a dual HDMI 1.4 BDP for your 3D video as the audio quality will be similar.

Hi Guys,
I was starting to come down with a case of upgraditis and was thinking about upgrading my receiver. What originally prompted me to think about it was because I'd like to go to 9 or maybe even 11 speakers.
Anywho, I'm always hearing about adding amps to receivers and since mine (3311Ci) has the speaker outs I was wondering what would I need to use my AVR3311CI in an 11 or 9 speaker system?
I still have my old 3808 around, could I use that or do I have to use dedicated amps. I tried a search and couldn't find an answer.
And again, I appreciate the help. This forum and especially the BigWigs in it have always been unbelievably helpful, even when I've asked some pretty dumb questions
On a side note, if I did upgrade to a Denon 4520 or maybe Pioneer SC-68, Yamaha 3020 or Onkyo 3010 I know there's a little more power and a bunch of nicer features but do you think I'd notice an improvement in sound quality? Especially 2 channel stereo for music, I think that's where the Denons shine.

Doug -- the 3311 (as well as the follow-up 33xx models) can NOT run 9 or 11 channels, period. They provide the additional speaker posts to give you the flexibility to connect up to 9 or 11 speakers, but only 7 can ever be used at the same time. You can switch between the two "extra" speakers you want (surr.backs, wides, and heights) by picking different surround modes, but you can never engage more than 7 at a time. This is a limitation of the processing, not the channels of amplification.

The Denon 4520 (or cheaper, a 4311 if you can find one) would provide a definite improvement in sound quality due to the XT32 correction as well as the ability to run a 9 or 11 channel setup, with all channels active simultaneously.

OK, I'm confused.......again.
My 3311 can only do 7.2 speakers, even though it has 11 speaker outs, additional amps will NOT help......right?
However, the newer 9.2 AVR's will do 9.2 out of the box but I'd need additional amps to create an 11.2 speaker system.........is that right? If so, could I use my old 3808 as the extra amp or would I need to get a specialized amp?
Either way I have to upgrade my AVR and possibly add another amp (depending on weather I go 9 or 11) to add speakers, yes?
Thanks for explaining and BTW, if it wasn't for your Denon for Dummy guides, I wouldn't have gotten this far!!!!! Seriously they have been a great help.

You're not confused what you wrote is exactly correct.

You could use the 3808 for extra amps but IMO it's a bit of a waste and it would be smarter to sell it and dedicate the funds into a real external amplifier if you want to expand to 11 channels. You don't NEED to but it would be a better way to do it.

Got it, thanx.
Now trying to decide on the new AVR will be fun.

Hello all, I am looking to upgrade my AVR from my current Onkyo 605. I've come across a refurbished Denon 3311 on accessories4less for what seems like a great price ($580 w/1yr warranty). I'm mostly looking for a well made AVR with good room calibration (wish I could afford one with XT32), preouts for adding an amp at some point, and good power. I believe I need more power because my front L&R towers are listed as 8ohm, but tested as 4. Another feature I'd like and am not sure id this AVR can do it is to be able to hook up an HDMI from my Directv HD DVR and have it pass audio and video through to the TV without turning on the whole system. I am also considering a new Onkyo 809 ($650) or a refurb Marantz 6005 ($600). My equipment is below (5.1 setup), please let me know your thoughts or recommendations. Thanks for your time.

Pioneer Elite 1150HD Plasma (768p, not 1080p)
Directv HR22 HD DVR
Pioneer BDP320 (will prob upgrade BDP to Sony 790 or Oppo 103 soon)
Infinity Primus 362 front towers
Infinity Primus 350 center
Infinity primus 250 rear towers
Velodyne DPS10 sub

As stated many times before on this thread, my Pandora has stopped working on the 3311CI. When I first heard this, I came back to this forum- you guys are great - and read that by mid December 2012 there would be a firmware update and all would be good with the world. I waited to that date and nothing was released. I checked back and they said the firmware will be released soon. No worries, I am patient.

Now the beginning of February, I go through the menus to do a search for firmware updates and it just freezes, it cannot connect to the server. Then I try to just download the firmware without checking for updates and it still hangs up. It kept saying it was trying to connect to the server. So I went out to dinner and let it still try to connect to the server. When I came back still no luck.

I hooked up my laptop via HDMI (V.Aux) and pulled up Pandora on Firefox. Problem solved – although not elegant. Is there any way to get Pandora/firmware updates working through the AVR again?

Thanks in advance.

The firmware was indeed released here in the USA on Dec 17 as confirmed by several other 3311 owners. If you are not in the USA, you'll have to check with your country's Denon rep to ask about the update schedule. Regarding the unit's network connection issues, you may want to try a different router/modem, or connecting directly to the modem/router if you are using a wireless connection or taking the unit to a neighbor's house and using his router/modem.

Hmmm.... I live in the US and my router hasn't given me any problems so far. I still am able to play stream music from my Windows7 laptop to the the AVR. I will some resets of the router and the modem and make sure everything is hooked up well. Anything else I should look for?

I have the same issue. I don't need airplay. I don't have any Apple products and I don't have an iTunes account. How do I just tell it "I'm not interested" and get it to shut up instead iof displaying the useless (to me) upgrade screen every time I turn it on?

Yes. You can set the Upgrade Notification setting (p. 85 OM) to OFF.

I'm having the same "low volume" issue. Tried a reset and also applied the most recent firmware upgrade, but the sound level output from the 3311ci is still significantly less than it used to be. I did not Restore after the reset. Seems about 1/3 to 1/2 sound level loss. Since I can still hear my kids, I'm pretty sure it's not my ears.

Anyone have a suggestion beyond reset?

Thanks.

EDIT - I went from a 5.1 setup to a FR, C, FL + sub setup and ran Audyssey, and the volume loss occurred a couple weeks after that.

This may be a "reach". but are both "DyEQ/volume" and "Dolby Volume" settings set to "off"?

What is the best way to try out a Aperion Verus Grand center on a pre-installed system on polk audio speakers.
Let me explained, I order a 3.0 set of Verus Grand from Aperion, I got the center today but the towers won't be here for another 3 weeks. I'm running monitor 70's and a CS2 right now.
So the question is should I turn off Audyssey and use a SPL meter to equal the levels of the new center to the existing configuration or run Audyssey setup on only one point. I don't want to do the setup twice when I get the towers.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for the help.

Hi all,

I recently purchased a new subwoofer and decided to go through the Audyssey recalibration process with the new Sub. Everything worked great and I've noticed a fairly significant improvement in the quality and consistency for the sound in all the speakers, not just the better base from the subwoofer. I was surprised as to the overall improvement and my question is, should a routine 'recalibration' of the sound system occur, say every 6 months? We've lost power several times over the past year (it's been well over a year since I set up the Audyssey calibration) and I'm curious if the receiver may have been reset after a complete power loss. I have a fairly good surge protector but that's about it. No UPS system is used. Is it possible that a complete power loss could have adversely affected the receiver settings?

Any suggestions or recommendations are most welcome. I'm considering having the entire system calibrated (just bought a Panasonic 55VT50 plasma) but I haven't committed to this yet.

Appreciate the comments.