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Originally Posted by Vecna1 View Post


8. Elementary question but, can you disable the onscreen overlay? I'd like to be able to raise and lower the volume without anything interfering with my screen showing the decibels decreasing/increasing.

Thanks for listening to me drone on. I appreciate any comments or feedback.

Nathan

Yes, you can disable the volume and/or text overlay.
post #1442 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Vecna1 View Post

4. I noticed that everyone suggested that I call EE for the "best deal" I could get on this receiver. I've never dealt with them before or even heard of them. Are they a trustworthy store? I know they are a authorized dealer but I just wanted some possible feedback.

EE has been doing business with Denon for well over 5 years, located roughly 30 minutes from the Denon warehouse in NJ. They are both authorized and likely the most used vendor for Denon AVRs by AVS forum members, with a great customer service grade. Other notable authorized vendors include 6Ave and J&R.
post #1443 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jaeelarr View Post

I know I am late on this, but another difference between the 991 and the 3311, is that the 3311 is 7.2, where as the 991 is 7.1. Should I assume that Audessey will calibrate the two subwoofers individually?

The dual sub outputs on the 3311 are easily replicated with a $3 RCA "Y" splitter.
post #1444 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jdskycaster View Post

Jerbo,
I know exactly how it happened....Someone has the keys to your place. They had one hell of a party while you stepped out and the walls must have been shakin'... at least until the sub died

JD

A ha so that would explain the empty beer bottles and open pizza boxes ...
post #1445 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jaeelarr View Post

I know I am late on this, but another difference between the 991 and the 3311, is that the 3311 is 7.2, where as the 991 is 7.1.

this is false, both receivers are 7.1 with dual (identical) sub outputs. All you had to do was look at the photos of the backs of the units
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AVR 991

I'm running a 5.1 setup. When I first set up my receiver, I ran the simple audyssey setup. I'm pretty sure that when I first went into the setup, the speaker setup was showing a 5.1 setup...perfect. I did my calibration and everything sounded great. Of course I started tinkering. One thing I noticed is that my center speaker came up as small. I'm pretty sure this has the freq range to be a large, so I set it as a large in the manual setup section. It's an Infinity C360 I believe. I also turned up the level of my sub. This is where I began to get confused. Once I changed the center speaker to large, it still shows up as small in the auto setup info. I'm confused as to once I change something in the manual setup section, am I really hearing what's in the manual setup or am I still hearing what the audyssey setup did? I'm also confused about the amp selection in the manual setup section. I would assume that the amp setting should be set to normal, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Normal says that it is for a 7.1 set up I believe. What should the amp setting be for a 5.1 setup in the manual section? Once I messed with some manual settings, I decided to redo the simple 5.1 audyssey setup. When I went into that setup, it started me off with a 7 speaker setup. I understand that I can turn off speakers I'm not using, but I'm confused as to why it came up as a 5.1 setup the first time I took the receiver out of the box.

Sorry for the long message but I'm new to Denon and it's just a bit confusing.
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Hey Denon Fans,

I'm thinking about upgrading form my current Denon reciever, I have the AVR-2803 . How much of an upgrade to you think it will be to go form the 2803 to the 3311?

I only want to pay 900 or a little over out the door. How did some users get such good deals?

Is there an AVS Iphone App?

Thanks !
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Rover,

I have the C360 as well and I have the speaker setting set to small on my AVR-2803 . Although its a large speaker. I read somewhere its better to have the settings as small. I'm also curious to know the difference DENON measures small speakers vs. large.
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Originally Posted by rover7 View Post

Sorry for the long message but I'm new to Denon and it's just a bit confusing.

you should read through my website setup guide and FAQ (follow the link below in my sig).

pay special attention to the Audyssey section of the FAQ: http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html#audyssey

and give this a read to understand why your speakers should be "small" -- this designation has basically NOTHING to do with the physical size of your speakers!: http://www.audyssey.com/blog/2009/05/small-vs-large/

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Once I changed the center speaker to large, it still shows up as small in the auto setup info.

the parameter check in "auto setup" is just a report card. any changes you make in manual setup override it automatically, but they will not show up in the parameter check (it's just there as a static reference for what Auto Setup determined).

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I'm also confused about the amp selection

for a 5.1 setup, it doesn't really matter what you set amp assign to, because Audyssey will just detect and measure the 5.1 speakers you have connected.
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Bat Pig,

I understand now the difference between small and large speaker setting. Thanks!
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Thanks batpig...

Great article.

Thanks again for the speedy response. Now I just have to get a mic stand, cause I was one of the morons putting my mic on a couch cushion
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Can anybody enlighten me on the advantages of the 3311 over the vsx-33? I have the vsx-33 and impressed by the audio and video but disappointed in remote and GUI capabilities.

I might add still have the option to return the vsx-33.
post #1453 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Led Zappa View Post

No

Well that sucks. Is it REALLY a .2 setup, or just .1 split? If that is the case, whats the point?

DO I have to buy separate subwoofer calibrator to do two subs individually?
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

this is false, both receivers are 7.1 with dual (identical) sub outputs. All you had to do was look at the photos of the backs of the units

SO why is one listed as 7.1, and the other as 7.2?
post #1455 of 10436
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Originally Posted by jaeelarr View Post

Well that sucks. Is it REALLY a .2 setup, or just .1 split? If that is the case, whats the point?

DO I have to buy separate subwoofer calibrator to do two subs individually?

That's above my paygrade. I have just read here that the two subs receive the same input. I'm sure others can chime in. I think it was addressed just a few pages back though.
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Is it REALLY a .2 setup, or just .1 split?

it's a .1 with two sub outputs. Some receivers brand themselves as "7.2" when they are actually .1 with split sub outputs.

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If that is the case, whats the point?

(1) so you can hook up two subs without having to buy an RCA adapter and (2) so people like you can get tricked into buying a product for this feature

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SO why is one listed as 7.1, and the other as 7.2?

who knows? marketing? wouldn't be the first inconsistency on a mfgr's website.

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Well that sucks.

not really. EQ'ing the two subwoofers as a summed unit actually delivers excellent results.
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

it's a .1 with two sub outputs. Some receivers brand themselves as "7.2" when they are actually .1 with split sub outputs.



(1) so you can hook up two subs without having to buy an RCA adapter and (2) so people like you can get tricked into buying a product for this feature



who knows? marketing? wouldn't be the first inconsistency on a mfgr's website.



not really. EQ'ing the two subwoofers as a summed unit actually delivers excellent results.

Right on.

I figured that because subwoofers can have different placement limitations (ie, one in a corner, the other not), that individual calibrating could make a difference. Thanks for the info!
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individual calibration CAN make a difference.... it's not quite as much as you may think.

the biggest issue is the timing -- if the subs are at very different distances from the listening area. so, if you have dual subs, try to make them as equidistant as possible from the 1st mic position (e.g. main listening spot).

but in terms of the EQ, Audyssey's research actually shows that EQ'ing the summed response provides better results.

in an ideal world, you could set distance separately for the two subs to control timing/phase, and then EQ them together as a summed unit. The Audyssey Sub EQ allows this: http://www.audyssey.com/solutions/ho...ter/subeq.html
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I just got my new 3311 and while I love it, I am a bit disappointed in the dual hdmi outs. I thought this was a splitter built in to the receiver. I would like HD video in two rooms (from hd dvr), but my rng200 hd dvr won't output component and hdmi at the same time (I know hdcp). So, knowing this workhorse can up-convert from S-video, I thought I might maintain my hdmi in to hdmi out, while up-converting S-video to component out to 2nd monitor. Not exactly hd, but that's better than letting the cheap 2nd monitor do the up-converting. So far I can't get that to work.

Is the receiver limited to one video processor? If I set the hdmi to only pass-through, can I get the S-video to upconvert to component (1080i or p) for that same input?

Is living with the added delay of an hdmi splitter the only way?

Thanks,
-Mark
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you can only have one video source output at a time. you aren't trying to play two different sources in each room right? just the same video in each room?

you should simply hook up your HD box with component video and scrap the HDMI for the input signal. then, you have HD in both rooms; you can feed component out to one room, HDMI out to the other room.

alternately, just get an HDMI splitter and split the HDMI output.
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Originally Posted by wishinguwehr View Post

Can anybody enlighten me on the advantages of the 3311 over the vsx-33? I have the vsx-33 and impressed by the audio and video but disappointed in remote and GUI capabilities.

I might add still have the option to return the vsx-33.

How do you find the VSX-33? I am trying to decide between the VSX-33 and the 3311.
post #1462 of 10436
Any tips or tricks to restore my Web Interface?
For some reason I lost it.
The menu system of my 3311 still shows an IP Address
but I can't get the Web Interface to connect.
I've tried unplugging the 3311, resetting my modem by unplugging and plugging it back in and doing several processor resets of the 3311, with no luck.
Thanks

DreamCatcher
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

Any tips or tricks to restore my Web Interface?
For some reason I lost it.
The menu system of my 3311 still shows an IP Address
but I can't get the Web Interface to connect.
I've tried unplugging the 3311, resetting my modem by unplugging and plugging it back in and doing several processor resets of the 3311, with no luck.
Thanks

DreamCatcher

What OS are you using?

On to other things:

I've had the 3311 for a few days and tonight is the first night I have really been able to play with it while listening to music.

I had the 1909 and got it set up and left it at that as I didn't like having to disrupt everything just to get to the GUI and was not about to look at the AVR while messing with the remote.

Anyways, with this GUI I can modify almost anything as I am listening and what a revelation.

For instance; I was not liking the sound of anything. Kept pressing buttons. Cinema This - Stereo That. Nothing seemed to help.

Then I changed the crossover of the center channel to 120 like the L/R Fronts. Instant betterness. Still off though.

Things were sounding good for now and I thought I should turn it down a bit since it was a little after 11:00, so I changed it to Evening. Oh My God. That's the sound I was looking for. For now anyways. The mix was right. The music just sounded right.

I guess what I'm saying is there has got to be a way for anybody to find the sound their looking for with this AVR with all it's options and Audyssey.

I've got a lot more messing around to do and will Re-Audyssey it, because I really only did one place. Where I sit. But still... this is promising and I AM LOVING THIS UNIT.
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Has anyone tried playing FLAC files through the network function / media server? (in my case just my PC turned on with Windows Media Center having some FLAC files imported - had to fiddle around to even have the FLAC files imported and showing up in the music library w. metadata)

Mine plays MP3's just fine but doesn't start playing when selecting a FLAC file.
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

Any tips or tricks to restore my Web Interface?
For some reason I lost it.
The menu system of my 3311 still shows an IP Address
but I can't get the Web Interface to connect.
I've tried unplugging the 3311, resetting my modem by unplugging and plugging it back in and doing several processor resets of the 3311, with no luck.
Thanks

DreamCatcher

Stupid question...you have the unit powered on right? There are two modes one where you can access when in standby mode as well and one where it is only accessible when the unit is on. Depending on that setting you can not access when off/standby.
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Originally Posted by Led Zappa View Post

What OS are you using?

On to other things:

I've had the 3311 for a few days and tonight is the first night I have really been able to play with it while listening to music.

I had the 1909 and got it set up and left it at that as I didn't like having to disrupt everything just to get to the GUI and was not about to look at the AVR while messing with the remote.

Anyways, with this GUI I can modify almost anything as I am listening and what a revelation.

For instance; I was not liking the sound of anything. Kept pressing buttons. Cinema This - Stereo That. Nothing seemed to help.

Then I changed the crossover of the center channel to 120 like the L/R Fronts. Instant betterness. Still off though.

Things were sounding good for now and I thought I should turn it down a bit since it was a little after 11:00, so I changed it to Evening. Oh My God. That's the sound I was looking for. For now anyways. The mix was right. The music just sounded right.

I guess what I'm saying is there has got to be a way for anybody to find the sound their looking for with this AVR with all it's options and Audyssey.

I've got a lot more messing around to do and will Re-Audyssey it, because I really only did one place. Where I sit. But still... this is promising and I AM LOVING THIS UNIT.

OS is Windows 7
Late last night the Network suddenly connected, after yet another processor reset. But this morning the Network doesn't connect.......

And yes the unit is turned on

DreamCatcher
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Originally Posted by Gaco View Post

Has anyone tried playing FLAC files through the network function / media server? (in my case just my PC turned on with Windows Media Center having some FLAC files imported - had to fiddle around to even have the FLAC files imported and showing up in the music library w. metadata)

Mine plays MP3's just fine but doesn't start playing when selecting a FLAC file.

Problem solved.

It turns out that my FLAC fixings on Windows Media Center wasn't enough after all. I followed this guide: http://www.hack7mc.com/2009/01/playi...ia-center.html

After which I could actually import and play FLAC from within WMC on my PC but apparently it couldn't stream it to the receiver.

I tried tversity and it worked. So now this info is out there for others who might have the same problem.


WMC really should have native FLAC support...
post #1468 of 10436
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher View Post

OS is Windows 7
Late last night the Network suddenly connected, after yet another processor reset. But this morning the Network doesn't connect.......

And yes the unit is turned on

DreamCatcher

Mine showed up when my Bluetooth Keyboard was lost by W7 and I had to add it back, suddenly my Denon showed up as a device I could add.

Have you checked to see if it's under Devices and Printers or Network in Explorer. if it's there you can check the properties and see if the IP has changed or something.
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Well, I just took the plunge and ordered a 3311 from electronics-expo. I'm going to pair it with my definitive technologies 600 setup.

This is my first receiver/surround sound system EVER. I'm coming from just a cheap sony soundbar on my flat screen. Needless to say I'm pretty excited, lol.
post #1470 of 10436
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Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don View Post

Well, I just took the plunge and ordered a 3311 from electronics-expo. I'm going to pair it with my definitive technologies 600 setup.

This is my first receiver/surround sound system EVER. I'm coming from just a cheap sony soundbar on my flat screen. Needless to say I'm pretty excited, lol.

Dude you should be...you set that up...run Audyssey and you are going to be having some fun. Congrats...and I have some Def Tech that are few years old and they are just fine...they will crank out some clean sound... very enjoyable.
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